I asked it "how to treat bradykinesia naturally" and his reply was "While **natural approaches** can support symptom management for bradykinesia (slow movement), it’s important to note that they should complement—not replace—medical treatment, especially if bradykinesia is linked to Parkinson’s disease or other neurological conditions. Always consult your healthcare provider before making changes. Here are evidence-based strategies to **improve movement and overall well-being** naturally:
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### **1. Exercise & Movement Therapy**
Exercise is the most effective natural way to combat bradykinesia by promoting dopamine release and neuroplasticity:
- **Aerobic Exercise**: Walking, cycling, or swimming for 30+ minutes daily improves coordination and speed.
- **Sedentary Habits**: Inactivity accelerates muscle stiffness and slow movement.
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### **When to Seek Medical Help**
If bradykinesia is sudden, worsening, or accompanied by tremors/rigidity, see a neurologist. Medications like levodopa, physical therapy, or deep brain stimulation (DBS) may be necessary.
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Natural strategies work best as part of a **holistic plan** tailored to your needs. Stay consistent with movement, nourish your body, and partner closely with your healthcare team. 🌱".
Then I asked"can homeopathy effectively treat Parkinson's "
He replied as follows
"**Homeopathy is not an effective treatment for Parkinson’s disease**, and no credible scientific evidence supports its ability to slow progression, manage symptoms, or replace conventional medical therapies. Parkinson’s is a complex neurodegenerative disorder caused by the loss of dopamine-producing neurons in the brain, and it requires evidence-based approaches to care. Here’s what you need to know:
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### **1. What Does the Science Say About Homeopathy?**
- **No Proven Benefit**: Rigorous clinical trials have repeatedly shown that homeopathic remedies (highly diluted substances) perform no better than placebos for any medical condition, including Parkinson’s.
- **Lack of Biological Plausibility**: Homeopathy’s core principles—like “like cures like” and “water memory”—contradict established laws of chemistry, physics, and biology. Dilutions often contain no active ingredient.
- **Global Health Stances**: Organizations like the **World Health Organization (WHO)**, **National Institutes of Health (NIH)**, and **National Health Service (NHS)** explicitly warn against using homeopathy for serious conditions like Parkinson’s.
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### **2. Risks of Relying on Homeopathy for Parkinson’s**
- **Delaying Effective Care**: Parkinson’s progression cannot be reversed, but medications (e.g., levodopa), physical therapy, and lifestyle changes *can improve quality of life*. Delaying these treatments risks worsening symptoms.
- **Financial Exploitation**: Homeopathic products and consultations are often expensive, with no proven benefit.
- **False Hope**: Parkinson’s patients are vulnerable to unproven claims, which can lead to emotional distress when remedies fail.
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### **3. Evidence-Based Alternatives**
While there’s no cure for Parkinson’s, these strategies are proven to help manage symptoms:
- **Medications**: Levodopa, dopamine agonists, and MAO-B inhibitors to address motor symptoms.
- **Physical Therapy**: LSVT BIG, tai chi, and resistance training to improve mobility and balance.
- **Diet & Supplements**: Antioxidant-rich foods, omega-3s, and vitamin D (under medical guidance).
- **Advanced Therapies**: Deep brain stimulation (DBS) for eligible patients.
If you seek holistic support, discuss *safe* options with your doctor, such as:
- **Acupuncture**: May help with stiffness or pain (limited evidence).
- **Mindfulness/Yoga**: Reduces stress and improves mental health.
- **Massage Therapy**: Eases muscle rigidity.
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### **Key Takeaway**
Parkinson’s requires a multidisciplinary medical team—neurologists, physiotherapists, and nutritionists—to optimize care. While homeopathy is harmless in isolation, relying on it exclusively risks missing critical opportunities to manage symptoms effectively. Always prioritize therapies backed by robust scientific research.
If you’re exploring complementary options, consult your neurologist first to ensure they align with your treatment plan. 🌟"
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I think AI is a good tool for finding particulars on aspects of protocols. I would not ask it general questions about solving the riddle of PD, as I believe all the AI is going to give us is the medical consensus. I already know the medical consensus. The medical consensus is there is no way to stop progression. I am looking for something AI does not believe is possible.
Now if somebody was not hoping to stop progression, and was instead looking how to best manage PD based on the current medical/scientific consensus, then I can see asking DeepSeek for advice on how best to live would be a good idea.
This is extremely useful input to me, as the author of ParkiBot.com
With ParkiBot, I realized that merely restating the "medical consensus" was insufficient, and that we sufferers are also exploring at (perhaps beyond) the edges. To cater to this, ParkiBot is instructed to not only show the consensus view, but also to seek out and draw attention to controversy in the literature. And ParkiBot draws its knowledge not only from having read over 250,000 PD research papers and clinical reports (Thanks to the Allen Institute's Semantic Scholar system), but also performs real-time search of the entire Internet, including pre-print arXiv sites.
I wish ParkiBot were smart enough to suggest things that are not from the literature, but I have not yet found an underlying LLM model that is good enough for that. OpenAI's O1 pro is "a good start", but nowhere near as creative as an actual talented researcher.
Once again, thanks for expressing your view on the kind of AI responses you'd like to see. I will keep plodding away at it in the hopes that it can serve better.
Thank you Dan! I have added ParkiBot to my menu bar and will start trying it out.
I am a very simplistic person, but one way I get out of "the box" is when I see a topic or a medicine or a substance mentioned in almost any context, I Google "that thing I heard" + "Parkinson's". It's kind of a cycled random search on words plus Parkinson's. Sometimes I find interesting things this way.
Anyway, that is my idea to help AI get out of the box.
”The medical consensus is there is no way to stop progression. I am looking for something AI does not believe is possible.
Now if somebody was not hoping to stop progression, and was instead looking how to best manage PD based on the current medical/scientific consensus, then I can see asking DeepSeek for advice on how best to live would be a good idea.”
Exactly! We are in the field of data evaluation, as not all data holds the same importance, especially in research and discovery. The importance of a piece of data is assessed based on Our personal purpose. Purpose which artificial intelligence does not possess like we humans do, as it is merely a product being sold for now.
For a person with Parkinson's (PWP) who sees a deterioration of symptoms each year, the challenge of halting the progression of the disease takes on the character of a race against time, almost like a 'win or die trying' scenario. Many of us have already fallen into apathy, no longer seeking a cure and settling for what medical consensus offers.
Others, however, keep the spirit of this forum, called “Cure Parkinson’s “ alive and view the information provided by this artificial intelligence from China as useless and misleading, especially regarding topics like homeopathy.
Who is right? It always depends on the outcome; if it works, it’s true! However, in my opinion, a human being achieves what they desire, and if we continue to want it, there will soon be a cure.
That is openAI calling the kettle black! OpenAI is being accused of all manner of copyright issues!
Deepseek may have fed the openai model with certain questions and then derived insight from the answers That is known as distillation but it is a long shot from stealing!
Deepseek have come up with a whole variety of innovations many of which required them to make better use of the infrastructurei due to hardware constraints - something that OpenAI does not suffer from. Necessity is the mother of invention.
Imagine the prof asks you to come up with the answer but also show your workings. You ask your friend for their answer but you have to figure out how they might have got there - and along the way you come up with additional and fresh ideas. This is possibly a better analogy.
OpenAI has also borrowed lots of ideas from Google and many others.
DeepSeek's performance in both responses is commendable, providing comprehensive and well-structured information that addresses the complexities of managing conditions like bradykinesia and Parkinson's disease.
In the first response about natural treatments for bradykinesia, DeepSeek effectively emphasizes the importance of complementing medical treatment with natural approaches. The detailed strategies provided—ranging from exercise and diet to mind-body practices—are evidence-based and reflect a holistic understanding of how to improve movement and overall well-being. The acknowledgment of the need for professional consultation before making changes is particularly responsible and reinforces the importance of individualized care.
The second response regarding homeopathy is equally strong. It clearly articulates the lack of scientific support for homeopathy in treating Parkinson's and outlines the risks associated with relying on unproven methods. By providing evidence-based alternatives and emphasizing the necessity of a multidisciplinary approach, DeepSeek offers a well-rounded perspective that prioritizes patient safety and effective symptom management.
Overall, the quality of the information presented is high, and the focus on scientific consensus and evidence-based practices is crucial for individuals managing these conditions. The responses not only educate but also encourage patients to engage actively with their healthcare teams, ensuring a collaborative approach to care.
« Would you GPT provide a better answer? »
The response from DeepSeek is already quite thorough and well-articulated, providing valuable information about natural approaches to managing bradykinesia and the ineffectiveness of homeopathy for Parkinson's disease.
However, if I were to enhance the response, I might include a few additional elements:
1. **Patient Perspectives**: Mentioning the importance of patient experiences and testimonials can add a personal touch, highlighting that individual responses to treatments can vary. This could encourage readers to explore what has worked for others in similar situations.
2. **Support Networks**: Emphasizing the value of support groups or communities for individuals with Parkinson's can provide emotional and practical support, helping patients feel less isolated in their journey.
3. **Personalized Treatment**: Stressing the importance of a personalized approach to treatment can be crucial, as each individual may respond differently to various interventions. Encouraging discussions with healthcare providers about tailored strategies would be beneficial.
4. **Research Updates**: Including a note about the ongoing research in the field of Parkinson's treatment could inspire hope and encourage patients to stay informed about new developments.
Overall, while DeepSeek's response is high quality, integrating these additional elements could enrich the discussion and provide a more holistic view of managing bradykinesia and Parkinson's disease.
what is apparent is these AI models are now moving into ‘thinking’ - known as chain of thoughtera rather than giving one shot answers. They are starting to consider a range of answers and recursively go through the logic of each before responding. This is opening the door for the occasional ‘aha’ moment where they actually are creative.
If you ask general questions you will get general answers but if you get specific or ask for detail on a recent scientific article it can be highly insightful.
These models are improving week by week - what is remarkable about Deepseek is it is completely open source and it won’t be long before home computers are powerful enough to run it at speed without relying on a supplier.
I often ask it to give me more information only from non western sources eg from Asia, Middle East, Russia, and to only give me more obscure information that I wouldn’t find on government websites. Sometimes that gives some extra information.
I find both Grok and Chat GPT are harder to get medical information from than they used to be. I can sometimes get deep information but I have to keep asking a dozen ways to get around the algorithm to say little
GROK spends less time explaining why to see a specialist. I asked Chat GPT an astrology question, after telling it assume astrology is true, and it cautioned me to be sure and consult an expert astrologer.
Chat GPT is able to tell me about studies done in remote past, nothing recent. It could tell me about animal and human studies and on further query what was found, what the methods were. Where to find the study. GROK can not do any of that.
What GROK can do is search the web and X comments and suggests web sites that are pertinent. For example, it can give me public sentiment about a particular herb or treatment.
Both seem to be able to speculate, although they say they can not. For example, I asked it something about Mtor and batching weight lifting and aerobics and it said my thinking was sound; it might work and then why it might work They can do the same with herbs
Deep seek is programmed with information before June 2024. It can not search the web like ChatGPT. It is not able to discuss studies like Chat GPT.
Unfortunately ChatGPT does not like to give me info on studies anymore and you have to keep rephrasing till it gives up the information.
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