DMSO - Forbidden Medicine

[Despe]

midwesterndoctor.com/p/dmso...

This is a post from Midwesterndoctor.com. (subscription). It is rather lengthy, but dmso health benefits are incredible. Never knew its existence, how about you?

[park_bear]

Very interesting. He cites studies and is surprisingly persuasive. Sadly, there are far too many signs the FDA is a captured ( by industry) agency.

[Despe in reply to park_bear]

Agree, PB. It's available on Amazon. . .

[kaypeeoh]

I was a veterinarian for 40 years. DMSO was a commonly used drug for pain. We coated the feet of thousands of horses to keep them running. I injected it IV to treat spinal problems. But over time the horses started kicking and stomping their feet if they smelled DMSO. I used it on my ankles for achilles tendinopathy. Eventually it would cause a rash wherever I applied it. There's no miracle here. Kinda like diabetes: You take insulin and live. But if you take too much it can be lethal.

[Despe in reply to kaypeeoh]

Kay, you don't think it's worth trying it? Thanks!

[kaypeeoh in reply to Despe]

I used it often on patients. At a medical conference I asked about DMSO. The response was that it's as potent as steroids. But like steroids there are side-effects from chronic use.

[chartist]

Hi Despe,

I have used DMSO and unlike many people, it offered me zero pain relief. Others have reported that it is a good topical pain reliever for their various aches and pains. It is a good solvent for many supplements for topical application, such as curcumin or melatonin, but it also carries other molecules easily through the skin, so cleanliness is very important when using it. Generally it has to be at least 45% minimum concentration to effectively work, but the higher the concentration, the greater the chance for skin irritation or allergic reaction with repeated usage.

In some people it can also make them smell garlicy without even realizing it until someone brings the smell up to them. It is somewhat related to MSM, but MSM did offer me some pain relief and is water soluble. Unfortunately, some people have severe reactions to MSM, but I never did.

DMSO has been around for ages and many, many years ago 60 Minutes did a special on it which you can probably find on YouTube.

Perhaps a miracle pain reliever for some, but not for me. I would take the melatonin lotion any day over DMSO. The people that it works well for swear by it though.

Art

[MarionP in reply to chartist]

Hey Art do you still have your melatonin recipe, I lost it and have used up my supply.

[chartist in reply to MarionP]

Here is the link to how to make the melatonin lotion :

healthunlocked.com/cure-par...

What have you found it helpful for?

Art

[MarionP in reply to chartist]

What is MSM?

[chartist in reply to MarionP]

MSM = Methylsulfonylmethane

It comes in pills, capsules, powder or granules which I mix with distilled or filtered water to make a topical spray or to be consumed orally, but some people have had bad reactions to it, so I don't recommend it, but I have not had bad reactions to it in oral or topical forms. It has modest pain relieving effects and as a natural form of sulfur, can have healing effects, but again, my choice is still ML.

MSM is related to DMSO as discussed here :

nccih.nih.gov/health/dimeth....

Art

[reedboat2 in reply to chartist]

Art I just saw your comment about MSM to Marion, so please disregard my previous questions. Thanks- JG

[Despe in reply to chartist]

Cognitive Impairment and Dementia

Since many neurological disorders are linked to poor blood flow to the brain, previous traumas (e.g., concussions or microstrokes), the accumulation of misfolded proteins (e.g., this characterizes Alzheimer’s disease), or an autoimmune process (something DMSO also helps greatly with), it stands to reason that many cognitive disorders would respond to DMSO.

In turn, this is what we find, and that much in the same way DMSO reverses many other complications of aging (e.g., skin issue, hair loss, poor organ function) IV DMSO is one of the most effective anti-aging therapies for the brain (along with ultraviolet blood irradiation or improving the physiologic zeta potential). Likewise, IV DMSO is one of the only therapies I know of which can help challenging neurological diseases Parkinson’s or ALS (where in both cases, while not curative, typically halts the progression of the disease). In turn, I periodically come across anecdotes of DMSO consuming centenarians who have no cognitive impairment despite their age.

If I only knew a practioner to treat PD with IV DMSO!

[Despe in reply to chartist]

I decided against it. In the original post of the site, Parkinson's was mentioned, but I don't remember what about. I will read it again and may post the particular mention to PD.

[reedboat2 in reply to chartist]

Art - what results did you get with MSM and us there an intervention which you can recommend? Thanks- JG

[chartist in reply to reedboat2]

With MSM, using it as a topical, it offered modest pain relief which was useful for a time for my psoriatic arthritis (PA). I didn't notice any pain relieving effects using it orally and it is very bitter to my taste buds, even when I dissolved it in various juices. That usefulness was short lived though in terms of the pain relief it initially offered. Somewhat similarly to the glucosamine/chondroitin multi supplements where the beneficial effects faded over a period of about 1.5 years until they too, no longer had much effect against the PA. Ultimately it was 20 mule team borax laundry booster which put my PA into full remission for about 16 years now.

Currently, as an effective topical pain reliever I use melatonin lotion (ML) which I make easily at home and discussed here :

healthunlocked.com/cure-par...

I didn't intend this as a topical pain reliever when I first started testing it, but rather as a more effective means of absorbing melatonin in people, compared to oral usage of melatonin, which is poor at best. Although many studies suggest pain relieving effects of melatonin, I have never experienced pain relief from oral melatonin at dosages up to 180 or 360 mg/day, however melatonin lotion offered significant pain relief in many of my friends who tested it over a two year period as I wrote about in the link above. I attribute this to the fact that ML can create very high local tissue melatonin levels compared to just about any oral dose a person might reasonably consider taking.

Those are the short term effects of ML, but now I am more interested in the long term effects of ML for many health conditions. As an example, based on studies, I would expect that long term daily use of ML directly on top of the spine is likely to have multiple reparative effects to the spine, but this is a longer term view of ML, but I digress.

Although I tolerate oral and topical MSM quite well, I have not experienced some of the side effects that have been reported about it, for that reason, I do not recommend it.

As far as the DMSO, since it has no pain relieving effects for me, I mainly only use it for dissolving certain herbs such as curcumin that it excels at. I have used steroids also and they definitely worked for me, but not DMSO.

Re your question, an intervention for what issue?

Art

[amykp]

my husband tried it for foot pain (metatarsalgia). Folks swore by it.

Did nothing for him.

[MarionP]

The articles and something on WebMD says it comes in different strengths, from 10% to 90%. Also WebMD says it can come in industrial grade form which can have impurities of unknown, possibly dangerous effect. Finally, there is a warning about careful washing skin first, hands and the topical site, if you're using it as a topical because whatever happens to be on skin (dirt for instance, and of course millions of bacteria present on skin) can be carried into the skin by the DMSO, and penetrations including whatever disease process that goes with them, or cause severe irritation or allergic reaction.

I've done okay with the recipe Art gave us but it has not really done much for lower back pain that I get (also I think I lost the recipe I'm going to need it again Art). But I have this diclofenac sitting around and I also read that DMSO seems to be an effective carrier for taking things under the skin so it might be something that could add to the penetration of Diclofenac... (unless of course DMSO and diclofenac interact in which case who knows what could happen?).

[Despe in reply to MarionP]

Marion, I don't intend to have hubby use it. It kind of scared me--bacteria on the skin can be transferred into the skin. Thought some PwP would try it anyway.

[chartist in reply to MarionP]

Marion,

I would definitely NOT add DMSO and Diclofenac Gel (Voltaren Gel) together. Voltaren is very well absorbed with the gel it is mixed in. In fact when you read the detail sheet, it is clear that it is very easy to apply too much Voltaren simply by applying to a relatively large area such as your back. The preference is to use on smaller areas such as a knee, elbow or shoulder to try and insure that you do not get too much systemic Diclofenac. DMSO may push systemic levels of Diclofenac too high and that would not be a good thing!

Art