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Is There A Natural And Available Alternative To Fecal Microbiome Transplantation (FMT) ?

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Since it looks like fecal microbiome transplantation (FMT) is not currently available to the masses, unless you you have C.diff, severe IBS, live in China or are able to find a trial and qualify for it. I have been wondering whether we have anything else at our disposal that might be able to offer a significant portion of the health benefits of FMT? FMT is known to positively alter the gut microbiome away from pathogenic bacteria toward health promoting bacteria, resulting in improved health and significant reduction of multiple health issues and in some cases it may actually act as a cure.

I think current research confirms many of the health benefits of FMT and I previously wrote about many of these benefits here :

healthunlocked.com/cure-par...

FMT works by transplanting a portion of the healthy gut microbiome from a very healthy donor into a person with a specific health issue to try and improve the health issue of the recipient.

One way to try and emulate the effects of FMT on the gut microbiome is through the use of probiotics, but in general, probiotics are too underpowered to obtain the same effects as FMT. Many manufacturers try to improve the effects of their probiotics by including prebiotics in their probiotics to form synbiotics with the intention being that the prebiotic will feed the probiotic bacteria as well as feed the healthful bacteria in the gut to attempt to increase the dominance of healthful bacteria in the gut and consequently reducing pathogenic bacteria. Synbiotics are a good idea, but apparently insufficient to grow the healthful bacteria into dominance in the gut microbiome.

When you consider that these synbiotic capsules are often delivered in a capsule that is generally of a size that can deliver 500 mg or less of a supplement, you start to realize why these synbiotics are underpowered for the task at hand. Afterall, FMT is usually delivered in a significantly larger dose than these synbiotics which contain both the probiotic and prebiotic in such a small capsule.

This brings me to a new study (April, 2024) that used a combination of 6 probiotics and prebiotic (Inulin) in combination, but the prebiotic alone consisted of 5 grams (5000 mg) of Inulin prebiotic. Compare this to the size of synbiotic capsules that are sized to deliver 500 mg or less of both probiotic and prebiotic combined in one capsule. The 5 grams of inulin alone is 5 times or more than the combined total prebiotic and probiotic in the synbiotic capsule and likely at least 10 times the amount of prebiotic found in the capsule. Here is a link to the trial (RCT) that showed that using this larger amount of inulin with a fairly high dose of colony forming units (CFUs) of 30 billion CFUs of probiotic bacteria had a significant health impact on the participants that received it, in terms of significantly increasing health promoting short chain fatty acids (SCFAs) and anti inflammatory IL-10 over 12 weeks :

sciencedirect.com/science/a...

Here is a relevant quote from the RCT :

' There were no significant differences between the baseline characteristics of patients in the two groups. Serum IL-10 was increased in the synbiotic group (p < 0.0001). Moreover, synbiotic supplementation increased fecal concentration of acetate (p < 0.0001), butyrate (p = 0.043), propionate (p < 0.0001), and valerate (p < 0.026). A significant positive correlation was observed between the changes in fecal butyrate level and serum IL-10 concentration in the control group (r = 0.48, p = 0.01).'

It is worth reiterating that the p value of the increase of anti inflammatory IL-10 was less than 0.0001, a significant improvement and the increase in SCFAs was also significant. It is also worth mentioning that studies have shown that FMT also significantly increase SCFAs. The following study adds confirmation to the idea that FMT increases SCFAs :

mdpi.com/2218-1989/13/10/1039

Here is a relevant study quote :

' In addition, there was a significant increase in combined SCFA levels at 12 months post-transplant within the rCDI group compared to that of their pre-transplant levels, and, more specifically, acetate, propionate, and isovalerate increased from pre-transplant to 12 months post-transplant. The longitudinal aspect of this study allowed us to identify mechanisms that contribute to the durability of responses to FMT, as well as characterize the unique patterns of short-chain fatty acid level recovery in rCDI pediatric patients.'

For comparison, the synbiotic I take, contains 300 mg of a prebiotic blend in total. This means that the study dose of prebiotic used is almost 17 times what is contained in my synbiotic, a very significant difference. My synbiotic also contains 300 billion CFUs of 24 probiotic bacteria or about 10 times the CFUs used in the study and 4 times the strains used in the study, if my label is accurate. Currently I see Synbiotics that contain 900 CFUs of probiotic bacteria in two capsules which is 450 CFUs per capsule or 50% more bacteria than I am currently taking in one capsule.

Based on this RCT and its results, the observed benefits would clearly be beneficial in many health issues and especially in health issues which have a significant inflammatory component.

Unfortunately, this study limited the criteria to just these five parameters, but in my opinion, I feel certain that had they expanded the criteria significantly, the results would have revealed significantly more potential for even more health benefits, especially had the study been longer than 12 weeks. They didn't test any markers for oxidative stress, but significantly increasing SCFAs as they did in this study, has reduced oxidative stress in other studies as well as improved the lipid profile. I have mentioned it on the forum before, but in case you missed it, increased SCFAs in the gut, naturally increase gut melatonin and melatonin receptor levels without side effects and melatonin in turn can further increase SCFAs, which is a nice cycle to have going in the dysbiotic gut that PwP are often noted for having. Natural ways of achieving higher melatonin levels are good for the gut microbiome, good for us and good for our health as whole. Did I mention that melatonin is good for PwP?

I have been testing my 300 billion CFUs (from 24 different bacterial strains) synbiotic that also contains 300 mg of prebiotic blend for almost a year which was successful in terms of eliminating bloating. One month ago I added 10 grams of Inulin prebiotic or double the dose used in the above study and because I have psoriasis, I can see changes fairly quickly in the appearance of my skin and in this case, even though just at one month in to testing, I can see noticeable improvement that appears to be continuing and improving so far which I did not see with the probiotic alone. A downside to inulin at the higher dose of 10 grams/day that I am taking is that it causes gas similarly to other prebiotic fibers at such high dose, such as resistant potato starch, but the gas effect has diminished a bit over the month I have been taking it. On the other hand, the 5 grams of inulin used in the study gave me little to no gas.

For now, this may be as close as we can get to the effects of FMT in two supplements that are available to pretty much everyone. In one PD/FMT trial, one participant mentioned that his psoriasis that was refractory to the highly potent topical steroid, Clobetasol, cleared during the trial after receiving FMT in the 12 week trial. In any case, this seems like it may be worth testing to see if it can benefit your health over a 12 week trial for those who are interested. Here are links to the two products I am currently testing. I am not recommending these, just showing what I am currently testing and I will mention that this is not the probiotic used in the PD/Probiotic study that I linked to further down in this post. That study probiotic called HEXBIO, ameliorated constipation and significantly improved MDS UPDRS ll (daily activities) and lll (motor function) scoring :

Inulin

amazon.com/Jerusalem-Artich...

300 Billion CFU Probiotic

amazon.com/Probiotics-probi...

In this September, 2022 review discussing the benefits of increased SCFAs, they show multiple health benefits associated with such increase :

mdpi.com/2304-8158/11/18/2863

Here is a relevant quote from the review :

' SCFAs show various bioactivities, such as anti-inflammatory and immunoregulatory effects, as well as preventive and therapeutic effects on several diseases, including obesity, cardiovascular disease, liver disease, diabetes mellitus, IBDs, diarrhea, constipation, neurodegenerative diseases, neuropsychiatric diseases, cancers, arthritis and periodontal disease, and so on. '

When you look at the above quote from the review, you can start to see many similarities between the effects of increased SCFAs compared to FMT. Add in the anti inflammatory effects from the increased levels of IL-10 and you can see even further similarities to FMT. I think the results of FMT would be much faster than this alternative method because FMT already has the correct bacteria from the beginning whereas the probiotic/inulin combination needs time to develop the health promoting bacteria while diminishing pathogenic bacterial burden.

It is worth mentioning that probiotics have also shown benefit for people with PD who have constipation as discussed here :

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl....

Here is a relevant quote from this systematic review and meta analysis :

' Our analysis suggests that probiotics can be used to improve the constipation and motor symptoms for patients with Parkinson’s constipation, possibly by reducing the inflammatory response and improving gut-brain axis neuron function, whose safety also proved to be good. '

Lastly, many people with PD are deficient in the anti inflammatory mediator IL-10 and the study showed that the combination of the 30 billion CFU probiotic and 5 grams of inulin, significantly elevated IL-10 levels. PwP are also noted for SCFA deficiencies and this may be a safe and effective way of ameliorating those deficiencies and improving overall health.

My take away from these studies and reviews is that this supplement combination may be able to replicate some benefits associated with FMT for PwP and other health issues. Since FMT is currently hard to come by in most parts of the world, this seems like a combo worthy of consideration for at least its constipation alleviating action as well as its significant MDS UPDRS ll and lll motor symptom improving effects. Keep in mind that in the 3 studies from the meta analysis that showed significant MDS UPDRS ll and lll improvement, it was just a probiotic without the 5 grams of inulin. Here is a link to one of those studies :

journals.plos.org/plosone/a...

Here is a relevant quote from the study using only a 30 billion CFU probiotic (HEXBIO)without the 5 grams of inulin :

' Within-group analysis showed significant improvement in the GTT at 8 weeks, in the probiotic group from 125.26 (SD54.81) hours to 77.32(SD55.35) hours, p <0.001. No significant difference was observed in the placebo group. The MDS-UPDRS II (MDS UPDRS III median NMSS and median PDQ-39SI scores in the probiotic group significantly improved compared to baseline. For the placebo group, there was significant improvement in the NMSS scores (p = 0.007) compared to baseline, but no significant improvements were observed in the PDQ-39S, MDS UPDRS II and III.'

Here is a link to the company that makes the probiotic used successfully in the PD/ Probiotic study :

bcrobes.com/

I am testing a different probiotic from Amazon that I linked to higher up in this post .

Given all of the above, it just confirms to me that this supplement combo can have some significant positive health effects that are quite similar to FMT and we won't have to wait 10 or more years, wait for a trial in which you may end up in the placebo group or go to China for a chance to try it. We can try it right now if we wish to!

Art

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Sydney75

You can likely get in US but insurance will not cover it. The two people I know who had one where at the University of Miami persistent CDIFF

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chartist in reply to Sydney75

Yes, you can get it in the US, but it is only approved for C.diff and severe IBS, but generally it is used after standard care has failed. I have not heard of anyone being able to get it for PD unless it was a trial and there has only been one PD/FMT trial in the US. That trial had only 11 participants. If you know of a US facility that will do FMT in people with PD, please post where it is because I think many PwP would like to know.

Art

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saraoutwest

Of course there’s always the DIY version of FMT. Find a safe donor and away you go!

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chartist in reply to saraoutwest

You said, ' find a safe donor and away you go '. Sounds simple, but how do you find a safe donor without at least having their transplant multi tested? What if the person appears very healthy by visible standards, but they are in stage one, two or three colon cancer? A lot of colon cancer cases are only found in stage 4.

Art

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saraoutwest in reply to chartist

yes I see your point. A healthy 2 year old grandchild maybe?

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chartist in reply to saraoutwest

That may not be the best choice either as the human immune system is generally fully developed around 8 years old, which corresponds with the highest natural melatonin levels that humans reach in their lives.

Interestingly, when young mice were given FMT from old mice, the young mice started acting more like old mice and showing signs of aging such as increased inflammatory markers and increased levels of oxidative stress. Conversely, when old mice were given FMT from young mice, they started acting younger and had reduced inflammatory markers and oxidative stress levels.

Maybe FMT from 8 or 9 year old children may be popular in 10 to 20 years.

Art

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saraoutwest in reply to chartist

Interesting! So much to learn. Thanks for all your input. I’m going to try your suggestions.

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chartist in reply to saraoutwest

Keep in mind that the probiotic/PD study used the probiotic called Hexbio. Here is a link to their website :

bcrobes.com/

The probiotic that I linked to in the original post is what I am testing, not the one used in the study.

Art

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gomelgo in reply to chartist

I just started my probiotic program with Florè. Will report back.

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chartist in reply to gomelgo

If Flore' is a custom blended probiotic based on your existing gut microbiome, I will be very interested in your results!

Art

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gomelgo in reply to chartist

That is exactly it. Apparently I have c diff, which they said is super common, yike! Just started them yesterday. Will keep you posted.

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chartist in reply to gomelgo

Well, C. diff also qualifies you for FMT in the US. I will keep an eye out for your updates.

Art

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gomelgo in reply to chartist

Not sure what I have access to in NY. It was near impossible to find a way to have the microbiome test because of the regs here. oy!

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chartist in reply to gomelgo

mountsinai.org/care/gastroe...

Art

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gomelgo in reply to chartist

Good to know! Thanks Art. However, I am no longer open to any antibiotics in my body.

"According to the American Gastroenterological Association, FMT may be an option if you have had:

At least three episodes of mild to moderate C. diff infection that has recurred despite six to eight weeks of treatment with antibiotics

At least two episodes of severe C. diff infection that required hospitalization

Moderate C. diff infection that did not respond to antibiotics for at least one week

Severe C. diff infection or severe colitis caused by C. diff that did not respond to antibiotics within two days "

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MBAnderson

Art, Sold. Thank you, thank you. I've ordered the stuff and am going to give it a try.

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JayPwP in reply to MBAnderson

You can also add onions (33% Inulin) to soaked and drained Oats (Inulin there as well) along with Blueberries, Walnuts and soaked and peeled Almonds. It should be enough fiber, but not exactly measurable.

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Dabaa in reply to MBAnderson

What stuff, please?

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MBAnderson in reply to Dabaa

The Amazon links in Art's post.

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Dabaa in reply to MBAnderson

Thank you. I've been taking this - amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B09..., add inulin powder and creatine to my shakes. Other than better poops, no discernible therapeutic gains on my PD which progresses apace... hey, ho.

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chartist in reply to MBAnderson

Hi Marc,

Where did you find the Hexbio probiotic? It seems to be in the price range of PS-128. The bag of Inulin I am using comes with a scoop inside that I believe is 2.6 grams. The study used 5 grams in order to significantly increase the SCFA levels.

Please keep us posted on your testing of this regimen.

Art

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MBAnderson in reply to chartist

I bought what you linked to at Amazon. Was that wrong?

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chartist in reply to MBAnderson

I guess I wasn't clear on that point, Marc. One study that used probiotic only in people with PD, used a probiotic called HEXBIO which has 30 billion CFU from 6 different bacteria. I thought that would be the one to choose if you were going to try and replicate that studies results. Amazon has no listing for HEXBIO but it looks like it can be ordered online.

I linked to the probiotic that I am testing which has 300 billion CFU from 24 different bacterial strains and I added the inulin to that. Imo, the combination I am taking is likely to have a similar or better effect, but that is just my opinion and has no study to support my contention.

Here is a link to the HEXBIO probiotic used in that study :

bcrobes.com/hexbio-mcp-3g-x...

If you want to use this probiotic, you can cancel the probiotic order from Amazon and order this one from the manufacturer.

Whichever probiotic you decide on, I think the inulin will be additive to it.

I'm sorry for not making that clearer, Marc.

Art

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MBAnderson in reply to chartist

That's OK. It's already been shipped. I'll see if it can be returned, otherwise, no problem.

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JayPwP

While doing your experiment with 10 grams of Inulin, did you continue with your 1.5 gram of Berberine HCL? Would it affect the result in any way?

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chartist in reply to JayPwP

Yes, I am continuing to use the berberine daily at 1500 mg/day.

Art

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LAJ12345 in reply to chartist

When my hubby was prescribed berberine and probiotics by the natural medicine doctor she had him take each week about. Not at the same time. Not sure why. She also had him take allimed (garlic) 2x3 times per day with the berberine. It worked for rosacea. But we did also eliminate sugar and gluten at the same time.

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chartist in reply to LAJ12345

I'm not sure why she would have done that, because berberine kills some pathogenic bacteria which would make it easier for the healthful bacteria from the probiotic to get established. It is always hard to be sure what is working when you are taking so many different things. Cutting out sugar altogether isn't easy, at least for me!

Art

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LAJ12345 in reply to chartist

I think the cutting sugar and gluten was the key to be honest. Less for bad bacteria to eat. We satisfy our sweet tooth by eating the odd date or fig. But we now find vegetables to be very sweet and even sour fruit have a sweet overtone . I think your tastebuds adjust. I now find very sweet things unpleasant. Even sweet potato and pumpkin taste overly sweet now where I used to love them.

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lingfield222

My husband with PD had a pretty poor microbiome when he had it tested. We did this because of chronic and persistent constipation. I had looked into fecal transplants but all looked a bit uncertain, so instead just worked on our diet, essentially following a Mediterranean diet, no dairy (Laurie Mischley’s recommendation) and now, following further testing, it’s in good shape.

He has managed to slow progression which is maybe through the diet, definitely exercise. But the constipation remains a challenge, at least we know this is down to poor gut motor function and not his microbiome.

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curiousPD1966 in reply to lingfield222

You might try SUNFIBER. It is a water soluble fiber. Did miracles for me, but along with a low FODMAP diet. Took 3 months and amazing results for me. Bought on Amazon. Suggested by my dietition. I just add 5cc to my cereal. No taste and not grainy. No gas or bloating.

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chartist in reply to lingfield222

Probiotics at a high enough dose can decrease gut transit time (GTT). Here is a quote from the PD/Probiotic trial that I linked to in the original post :

' The GTT in the probiotic group [77.32 (SD55.35) hours] reduced significantly compared to placebo [113.54 (SD 61.54) hours]; mean difference -36.22, 95% CI -68.90, -3.54, uncorrected p = 0.030). The mean change in GTT was 58.04 (SD59.04) hour vs 20.73 (SD60.48) hours respectively (mean difference 37.32, 95% CI 4.00, 70.63, uncorrected p = 0.028). '

The study used the probiotic called Hexbio and it has 30 billion CFUs from 6 bacterial strains. It significantly improved constipation as well as the MDS UPDRS ll activities of daily living and MDS UPDRS lll, motor symptom scoring.

Here is a link to the product :

bcrobes.com/hexbio-mcp-3g-x...

Art

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lingfield222 in reply to chartist

Thanks, really helpful and will track this down and give it a go.

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crewmanwhite

It is totally possible to heal your gut and repopulate with healthy bacteria without injecting poo.

Many people have fully recovered from PD and healed their gut without this expensive and unnecessary procedure.

Seek advice form an experienced and dedicated naturopath.

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Dabaa in reply to crewmanwhite

'Many people have fully recovered from PD and healed their gut.' That's quite the assertion - do you have any evidence for it?

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crewmanwhite in reply to Dabaa

My story of recovery is widely known, then there are a number of my patients and other people who used different strategies to recover.

If course, mainstream media do not promote these stories because their advertisers (Big Pharma) don't like it.

My story was told on a main TV channel here in Australia a few years ago and a neurologist forced the channel to withdraw the story.

So you need to dig to find the evidence, but it is there.

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crewmanwhite in reply to Dabaa

Here are some links that might be useful:

blogtalkradio.com/parkinson...

amazon.com.au/SHAKY-PAST-Jo...

rethinkingparkinsons.com/

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Dabaa in reply to crewmanwhite

Thank you for your thoughtful follow-up. Appreciated.

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Efka

Hi, The Taymount clinic in the UK has been operating for decades by now helping various disease situations. Might be worth a look although when I investigated many years ago it was an expensive procedure.

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Gcf51

Are you taking? How long? Have you had any success? Are you taking both?

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WhyRBD

Art, who are you using to test your SCFA levels? I have a very similar protocal (bulk inulans and special probiotic yogurts and fermented foods). I have seen a change gut sequencing, but waiting for SCFA test to confirm I am getting the results I need - increaed levels of SCFA's. It does not matter what we you use as long as SCFA levels are returned to normal levels. Step 1 in the treatment for prodromal PD.

Rob

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chartist in reply to WhyRBD

Hi Rob,

I'm not testing SCFA levels. I was already taking the probiotic effectively for bloating and decided to add the inulin based on inulin studies suggesting potential additional benefit and that is when I noticed it was having a positive effect on my psoriasis after about a month of using inulin. When I found the studies that I linked to in the original post that showed the increases in SCFA levels, increased anti inflammatory IL-10 level as well as significantly improved MDS UPDRS ll and lll scoring, I decided to share that information with the forum.

I don't have PD, so I can't talk to that point in relation to the higher dose inulin and probiotics, but the studies seemed clear on what they found and imo that seems like something the forum members might be interested in. The study was only 12 weeks in length. so that seems very doable for those who want to test the combo.

Art

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JayPwP

Hi Art, Others,

Any suggestions on when and how to consume the Inulin and Probiotic? I am not able to find the method in the study...

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chartist in reply to JayPwP

My way may not be the right way, but I mix my inulin in a 500 ml bottle of water. I pour out about one third of the water into a glass and then I use a funnel to add the inulin to the bottle. I then top the bottle off with the water from the glass. If I want flavor, instead of adding the water from the glass, I top the bottle off with a juice, such as orange juice or other juice. Replace the lid, shake the bottle very well and sip throughout the day to keep a steady state of inulin in my gut.

I take the probiotic about an hour before dinner. The inulin will promote healthy bacterial growth from the probiotic as well as from the existing gut microbiome.

In the study, it seemed like the probiotic and inulin were given together, twice a day. Here is a relevant study quote :

' In this double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trial, fifty-six adult men with dyslipidemia were randomly allocated to intervention and control groups and received either synbiotic or placebo powder twice a day for 12 weeks. Each synbiotic sachet contained 6 species of probiotic microorganisms with a total dose of 3 × 1010 Colony Forming Unit (CFU) and 5 gr inulin and Fructooligosaccharide (FOS) as prebiotics. '

The Inulin I linked to in the post says it contains inulin and FOS.

Art

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JayPwP in reply to chartist

Thank you Art 🙏

I have ordered the below products:

* Urban Platter Inulin Powder, 300g [Fructo Oligo Saccharides, Prebiotic & Rich in Fiber, FOS] amzn.in/d/5vb8vrU

* Boldfit Probiotics Gut Health Supplement 30 Billion CFU For Men & Women with 16 Strains & Prebiotics - Supports Digestion, Immunity Support, Detox & Cleanse - 60 Vegetarian Capsules, White amzn.in/d/eNr3wHg

* ZEROHARM Gut Army Probiotics Supplement For Men & Women |100 Billion CFU & 25 Strains | Gut Health Capsule for Gut Cleanser, Digestion, Acidity Relief, Gastric Medicine, IBS Symptoms - 60 Vegan Tablet amzn.in/d/a7UPzKN

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Ghmac

Art, in the list of ingredients of the 300 billion probiotics for men and women, bifidobacterium is listed. Wasn't certain strains of bifidobacteria identified to be related to Parkinson's by the Helsinki study? A quick search brought this up: Bifidobacteria, a type of bacteria found at higher levels in the gut of Parkinson's disease patients, is capable of breaking down levodopa, the gold-standard therapy for the neurodegenerative disease, according to recent laboratory studies. - - We haven't heard much from Helsinki lately.

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chartist in reply to Ghmac

That is what I am using, not what was used in the PD study, but the probiotic used in the PD study, Hexbio, contains these three strains of bifidobacteria :

• Bifidobacterium bifidum BCMC® 02290

• Bifidobacterium longum BCMC® 02120

• Bifidobacterium infantis BCMC® 02129

Art

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Ghmac in reply to chartist

Thank you

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JayPwP in reply to Ghmac

Didn't the Helsinki study implicate Desulfovibrio?

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Ghmac in reply to JayPwP

YES - Researchers at the University of Helsinki have demonstrated that certain strains of Desulfovibrio bacteria are the likely cause of Parkinson's disease in most cases.

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chartist in reply to Ghmac

Personally, I am doubtful about those three strains of Desulfovibrio bacteria being the only cause of PD, but if they are correct about any of those three bacterial strains being the cause of PD, then Metronidazole should cure PD and that should be very easy to test, so why didn't they?

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl....

Here is a relevant study quote :

' Although the incidence of human infections caused by Desulfovibrio spp. is unknown, these organisms are potential pathogens for humans and should be taken into account for empirical antibiotic therapy. Desulfovibrio spp. can be resistant to various antimicrobial agents, including drugs commonly used to treat mixed infections, such as β-lactams combined with β-lactamase inhibitors, cefotetan, and cefoxitin. However, none of the strains tested were resistant to imipenem or metronidazole; these should therefore be considered the drugs most suitable for treating infections caused by Desulfovibrio spp. '

What scientist or research team wouldn't want to find the cure for PD?

Art

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Ghmac in reply to chartist

From what I understand PD is a very personalized disease. Everyone seems to have their own customized symptoms, and reaction to medication, supplements, exercise etc. I feel strongly there are probably many causes of Parkinsonism. From herbicides to aquatic bacteria, a million possible causes all create a folded protein . Due to the huge uptick in PD I suspect a lot are environmental or work related causes. I doubt there will be just one cure, but many. IMHO I think they just need to target and stop the alpha-synuclein folds and clumps.

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JayPwP

Documentary on FMT

healthunlocked.com/cure-par...

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Gcf51

Art, in your research of Fecal Microbiome Transplantation (FMT), have your came across how they determine healthy guts for transplantation, especially in the treatment of Parkinson.

Probiotic amazon.com/dp/B0C748WVZF?ps...

Inulin amazon.com/dp/B074WKCPS4?ps...

I am on day 4 of the combo of the above and I feel a tingling in my head.

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chartist in reply to Gcf51

I have never heard of PD specific screening parameters for FMT. This is a basic review on donor screening for FMT :

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

Regarding the probiotic you ordered, that is the one I am testing, not the one used in the PD/probiotic study. I don't have PD. Here is a link to the maker of the one used in the PD study :

healthunlocked.com/redirect...

Art

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