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Smarthwatch vibrations. “Use of imperceptible wrist vibration to modulate sensorimotor cortical activity”.

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Things move, when technology progresses the structure of the machines become simpler while improving their function. Here is a study demonstrating how a smartwatch programmed to vibrate imperceptibly could be used in neurorehabilitation in the future. the abstract:

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/306...

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

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Jalia

Not dissimilar to the Cue1 principle it would seem

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Gioc in reply toJalia

I read that you are using it, how is it going?

I'm on the waiting list, but Italy seems to take a long time.

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Jalia in reply toGioc

My husband has found it very helpful. As you saw, the very first time he used it the effect was instantaneous. Since then it is variable in that sometimes it will take a while to kick in Nevertheless he wouldn't like to be without it...he is walking with much more ease and freezing episodes greatly reduced.Something we have found very useful is when showering the device has to be removed and he does find it difficult turn when washing. I hit on the idea of using a metronome which we had in the house from my daughters piano lessons. It worked a treat! I set it to a similar rate as his Cue1.

I do hope you don't have to wait too long for your device.

Regards

J

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Gioc in reply toJalia

that's a very interesting success story, thanks Jalia for sharing. coming from you who have so much experience on HU has even more value. I also find the mertronome experiment very interesting, this makes me think that we are still very far from understanding how the sensorial perception of vibrations influence our brain system and our ability to control movement so much. I can't wait for my CUE1 to arrive.

Greetings from Italy

Gio

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meicox in reply toJalia

Hi Jalia. I note your use of a metronome. I'd like to know the frequency . Can you please let me know?

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Jalia in reply tomeicox

I'm using a 'wind up metronome...a relic from my daughters piano practice days....I set it to Larghetto 60-66 which is quite slow , if that makes any sense to you! It's just a case of setting it to whatever you feel comfortable with. I doubt whether you would want to set it high! Hope that helps.

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meicox in reply toJalia

Thanks Jalia.

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Gymsack in reply toJalia

What is a CUE 1 ?

I searched HU nothing

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Jalia in reply toGymsack

Hi GymsackIf you Google Charco Neurotech Cue1 you will have the device properly explained in fewer words than possibly me !

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I am now on their waiting list to get a Cue1.

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Zella23

Such an interesting post Gio, and the discussion about the Cue1. My husband uses one and has had it for over a year. People have commented on his walking, step and stride which has improved since using his.

The Red light hat has been a help as well. Nothing seems to be one size fits all but different thing help with coping with symptoms.

The watch you refer to above reminds me of the Peter Tass gloves and the similarities with stimulating and changing wave patterns in the brain.

This article appeared in a couple of news reports in the Uk, where neuroscientists are using non invasive stimulation to help with Alzheimers.

itv.com/news/2023-10-19/dee...

Greetings from London

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Gioc

thak you Zella, nice colors and nice photo! The improvements you report are very similar to all those reported by those who use these types of vibrating devices: improved posture, balance and gait and others motors syntoms. Could it be a coincidence?

Also interesting is the study on Alzheimer's which I'm happy not to have for now.

I see that you are always very up to date👍, it is not easy being a caregiver. You have all my admiration for this.Gio

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Gymsack in reply toGioc

All are reported to make improvements

The vibration of a train ride over old short rail track. ( Clickety clack, clickety clack )

The vibration of a ride in a horse drawn carriage over cobble stone. ( click click clik thud clecity cliclk )

The vibration of researched gloves on finger tips ( BUZZZZ .. BUZZZZ )

The vibration of build your own gloves ( BUz. Buz buZ .. Buzzz )

The vibration of common massuge type vibraters ( BUU U ZZZZuuz)

The vibration of a small smart watch ( imperceptible )

The Vibration

mmmmmmmm

Viibration is of course a very large field of study but a simplest type of approach which is open for error the following is of interest to me .

Vibration can be back and forth , Orbital or in other wave forms and can be constant amplitude and frequency or variables in both and it is possible that everything in the universe vibrates. If a small item that is vibrating at a known frequency is placed beside a larger vibrating source the small item will eventually vibrate at the same frequency.

See the video below now turn up the volume , how long before it becomes irritating to a person with parkinsons vs a person without PD. Let the video run to the end. Now click on the grandfather clock with the face and let it run.

I am thinking about buying a co-co clock with a loud Tic -Tock

youtube.com/watch?v=Bv_J0j9...

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Jalia in reply toGymsack

You may have read my reply earlier where I mentioned we used a metronome in the shower room which helped my husband greatly with turning and balance.

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Zella23 in reply toGioc

Thanks Gio, most of the time, research gets too technical for my understanding, but I’ve learnt to skim through the main points.

I don’t think improvements found with devices that vibrate are coincidental. Maybe they change brain patterns I can only report on what I observe.

My mother also suffered from PD and I wish I could have helped her more, but she lived a few hours away and I had a young family so it wasn’t easy. Maybe that’s what also prompts me to find out all I can.

Beautiful little chapel, reminds me of the painted churches in Bulgaria.

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Gioc

exemplifying this blind study demonstrates that “Grip-related ERD was also greater during vibration, compared to no vibration. In conclusion, subthreshold (imperceptible ) random-frequency wrist vibration affected release of intracortical inhibition and both resting and grip-related sensorimotor cortical activity. Such effects may have implications in rehabilitation.”. in other words all options on the use of vibrating devices in rehabilitation are open, including doctor Jean-Martin Charcot's carriages

Jean-Martin Charcot

French neurologist (1825-1893).

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jea....

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Esperanto in reply toGioc

Still that lawnmower, I have had very good experiences with it. Just like driving our diesel car on long distances. Unfortunately no effect with the silent e-car. 😉 Charcot, a smart man!

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