Laser emitting diodes compared to LED light therapy ?

[Little_apple]

Bryan Johnson , a regenerative medicine extremist, uses Laser emitting diodes on his head instead of our standard red light therapy. This peaked my interest.

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youtube.com/watch?v=aXdEPiF...(Not working as expected?)

[Boscoejean]

platinumtherapylights.com/b....

Understanding Red Light Therapy Wavelengths

Red light therapy is more than just “red” light. It uses wavelengths in the visible (red) as well as the invisible (near-infrared) spectrum. And it also goes by a variety of names: You may have heard it called low-level light therapy (LLLT), photobiomodulation, or even low-level laser therapy, which are terms often used in scientific studies on red light therapy.

Here are two quick technical notes to help avoid confusion:

Low-level laser therapy is a form of red light therapy, as it delivers the same wavelengths. But it uses low-level or “cold” lasers to deliver light to the skin; this differentiates it from red and NIR light therapy devices that use light-emitting diode (LED) bulbs, rather than lasers. Typically, low-level laser therapy is only used in clinical settings, whereas a wide variety of red/NIR light devices are available for home use.

NIR light is technically within the infrared spectrum, although with a range of 780 to 1200 nm, it’s on the shorter end of the spectrum. This is where the body still perceives energy as light, rather than heat.

Although researchers often use lasers in their studies, LED light therapy devices are now being used more frequently. This is thanks to advances in LED technology and the fact that these devices are suitable for consumer use, meaning the results can be replicated at home.

[Boscoejean]

clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show...

[Boscoejean]

the video does not play

[Little_apple in reply to Boscoejean]

youtube.com/watch?v=F_3p81G...(Not working as expected?)

He has many I listened to. I think this is the intended one. I replied above with a rephrasing of my question. He helmet had far more lights and was inserted in a hat.

[Little_apple]

It is my understanding that laser emitting diodes can emit IR but can emit other wave lengths. So I was trying to determine if this eccentric neuro hacker billionaire is using a different wavelength bc if not, then why a laser instead of the more typical IR led?

[PDWarrior1900]

11 year old study on their website and ZERO testimonials... I'll pass

[Little_apple in reply to PDWarrior1900]

what are you referring to?

[kaypeeoh]

"LLLT, 500mW or less" How is this different from NIR? What's the wattage of 810nM NIR? Does wattage determine whether the NIR can penetrate skull and reach the mitochondria? I'm beyond confused.....

[Little_apple in reply to kaypeeoh]

Me too. But I’m confident someone on here can explain. I just want to make sure we are accessing the best there is for us.

[WinnieThePoo in reply to Little_apple]

There appears to be more than a little confusion on here. The video links don't work, but the research paper referenced, from 2011, refers to experiments using LED's, not lasers, and at much lower powers than more recent research uses. (61 diodes at 15mw per diode is 915mw used in the study. The Well Red coronet has 40 diodes producing 742mw so 30w (29680mw)

It dates from the era in which red light research originated with lasers - they were the tool that was there first. Subsequently LED's have proven safer and more convenient

[Boscoejean]

apparently the person who did this video won't allow it to be embedded into a comment because it won't play when you click on it here

[Little_apple in reply to Boscoejean]

This is a screen shot from the video referenced. His protocol is the most extreme I’ve ever seen but I think it can be a good source of info from which we can investigate further. He has a team of approx 20 top tier doctors facilitating all this testing.

Screen shot

[Boscoejean in reply to Little_apple]

something about ocean waves

[Little_apple in reply to Boscoejean]

No, the one on top

Bryan Johnson A Typical Blueprint Morning

[kaypeeoh]

He applied his patch to the skin 3" below the navel. I think that would stimulate the meridians in that area of the body.

[Little_apple in reply to kaypeeoh]

did you see his hat that is lined with an extreme amount of lights? It appears to be cordless.

Regarding the light below the navel, that would be the colon right? Maybe help with gut motility?

[Little_apple]

Lasers penetrate much deeper because they are more powerful. With that comes increased risk of damage or injury and they are much more expensive. But because they penetrate deeper, they can be much more effective. Would this apply to cranial use? Perhaps yes because in the video of Bryan Johnson he is using what he referred to as Laser Diodes on his head.

[Little_apple]

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