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PTT trials for 50 participants at 8 locations* in the US. Out of nowhere. Bilateral will be offered if you qualify. (*Thank you Rebtar.)

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Criteria

Inclusion Criteria:

Men and women, age 30 years and older, desiring bilateral treatment option with second side staged at 6 months.

Subject is able and willing to give informed consent and able to attend all study visits

Subject with a diagnosis of idiopathic PD by UK Brain Bank Criteria as confirmed by a movement disorder neurologist at the site.

Subject has Levodopa responsive as defined by at least a 30% reduction in MDSUPDRS motor subscale in the ON vs OFF medication state.

Subject has MDS-UPDRS score of 30 or greater in the meds OFF condition.

Motor complications of PD on optimum medical treatment characterized dyskinesia (MDS-UPDRS item 4.2 score of 2 or greater in the meds ON condition) OR Motor fluctuations (MDS-UPDRS item 4.4 score of 2 or greater in the meds ON condition)

Subject is on a stable dose of all PD medications for 30 days prior to screening visit PD assessments as determined by medical records

Subject is able to communicate sensations during the Exablate procedure.

Subject's Pallido-thalamic region can be targeted by the Exablate device.

Exclusion Criteria:

Subject has a score of 3 or greater on the PULL test.

Subject with severe premorbid risks as specified in the MDS-UPDRS Part II subsection motor aspects of experiences of daily living scores: 3 or 4 on question 2.1 (speech) OR 3 or 4 on question 2.3 (chewing and swallowing) OR 4 on question 2.2 (saliva and drooling).

Subject where there is suspicion that Parkinsonian symptoms are a side effect from neuroleptic medications.

Subject with significant cognitive impairment as determined by the neuropsychologist.

Subject has other central neurodegenerative disease suspected on neurological examination. These include: multisystem atrophy, progressive supranuclear palsy, corticobasal syndrome, dementia with Lewy bodies, and Alzheimer's disease.

Subject with unstable psychiatric disease, defined as active uncontrolled depressive symptoms, psychosis, delusions, hallucinations, or suicidal ideation

Women of childbearing potential who are pregnant or lactating

Subjects exhibiting any behavior(s) consistent with ethanol or substance abuse

Subject with unstable cardiac status or severe hypertension including:

Documented myocardial infarction within six months of enrollment

Unstable angina on medication

Unstable or worsening congestive heart failure

Left ventricular ejection fraction below the lower limit of normal

History of a hemodynamically unstable cardiac arrhythmia

Cardiac pacemaker

Diastolic BP > 100 on medication

Subject with history of abnormal bleeding, hemorrhage, or coagulopathy including:

Subject with risk factors for intraoperative or postoperative bleeding as indicated by: platelet count less than 100,000 per cubic millimeter; a documented clinical coagulopathy; or INR coagulation studies exceeding the institution's laboratory standard.

History of intracranial hemorrhage, multiple strokes, or a stroke within past 6 months

Subjects with intracranial aneurysms requiring treatment or arterial venous malformations (AVMs) requiring treatment

Subject is receiving anticoagulant (e.g., warfarin) or antiplatelet (e.g., aspirin) therapy within one week of focused ultrasound procedure or drugs known to increase risk or hemorrhage (e.g., Avastin) within one month of focused ultrasound procedure.

Subject with severely impaired renal function with estimated glomerular filtration rate <30 mL/min/1.73m2 (or per local standards should that be more restrictive) and/or who is on dialysis.

Subjects with a history of seizures within the past year.

Subject with an intracranial brain tumor

Subjects with life-threatening systemic disease that include and not limited to the following will be excluded from the study participation: HIV, liver failure, blood dyscrasias, etc.

Any illness that in the investigator's opinion preclude participation in this study.

Subject with standard contraindications for MR imaging such as implanted metallic devices

Subject who had prior deep brain stimulation of the basal ganglia or thalamus.

Subjects who are unable to tolerate the required prolonged stationary supine position during treatment.

Subjects who have an Overall Skull Density Ratio of less than 0.40 as calculated from the screening CT.

Subject who is participating in another clinical investigation with an active treatment arm in the last 30 days.

Subject who is unable to communicate with the investigator and staff. Additional Exclusion Criteria for Staged Bilateral PTT procedure

Subject who had moderate to severe neurological event such as dysphagia, speech, gait imbalance, cognitive impairment, and visual field deficit following index procedure.

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MBAnderson

PS. If this is of interest to you, do not eliminate yourself from consideration. Let them do it.

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laglag in reply to MBAnderson

Are you still doing well? Are you glad you did it? Would you do it again? It's so scary. I'm 63 and was diagnosed 18 yrs ago. Doing really good when my meds are working, but shake really bad when they aren't. Do you have a list of locations?

Thanks!

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MBAnderson in reply to laglag

Yes, yes, and I am doing it again, April 28 I'm having the other side done. Open the link. I don't know any locations, except Texas, have been agreed upon yet.

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MBAnderson in reply to MBAnderson

Seems to me there are not 8 - 10 neurosurgeons in the US who have any experience with the PTT location, so apparently a lot of them will be doing this for the 1st time. (Far as I know, there are none. )

I understand Google Earth is very good for finding precise locations. Maybe that's what they'll use?

😁

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pdkid in reply to MBAnderson

😳😂

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lenamm

I would not have qualified for the trials with 30% difference between on and off. I was two points different. So very happy I already have both sides done. I will be very interested to see the results and they are drawing from a different segment of the PD population. I highly recommend if you qualify. I am now about 90% symptom free on or off meds exactly the same.

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MBAnderson in reply to lenamm

I wondered about that 30%. I suspect there's some flexibility in that.

You, indeed, are the poster child for successful PTT. I'm hoping I do half as well.

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lenamm in reply to MBAnderson

They joked with me when they did side two that I was a celebrity and they couldn't mess it up :-) I'm sure you will do well. My improvements continue post surgery and I have absolutely no difference on and off which is such a relief. Side two is different than side one but that side of my body was also different.

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lenamm in reply to MBAnderson

What Dr. Laurie said is true, they are testing it for idiopathic PD which requires med response. My PD was more dystonia than PD.

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MBAnderson in reply to lenamm

Using C/L responsiveness as a criteria to diagnose PD is, IMHO, a flaw (embraced by the PD healthcare community) considering the % of PWP who are not c/l responsive, such as myself.

I was initially diagnosed by my primary care doctor at the University of Minnesota. The diagnosis was confirmed by the Head of the Neurology Department at the U of MN. Diagnosis was confirmed again by the head of neurology at the Minneapolis VA. The diagnosis was confirmed again by a neurosurgeon at Wexner Medical in Columbus Ohio where I volunteered for pallidotomy clinical trial and reaffirmed again by Dr. Jeanmonod.

I have PD, but you'd never know it using the C/L test. I can take 300 mg of C/L and zip.

Therefore, the c/l responsiveness criteria is sometimes less reliable then diagnosis upon examination, which is why I emphasize if you are interested in participating in this trial, do not eliminate yourself.

Every location will be eager for volunteers and the more eager they are, the more flexible the criteria. (Early bird gets the worm.)

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jombi in reply to lenamm

Lena, didn't you have spasmotic tremors too?

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lenamm in reply to jombi

I did.

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MissRita in reply to MBAnderson

PTT?

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MBAnderson in reply to MissRita

Pallidothalamic Tractotomy. Put FUS in the search window. There are a lot of threads.

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rebtar

Wow! That's a surprise...such a good surprise! Actually it says 50 participants at 8 locations.

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MBAnderson in reply to rebtar

Right. Thanks. I'll change it.

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MBAnderson

I urge everyone to do a serious exploration of this clinical trial. They do the procedure bilaterally and because it's a clinical trial, it's free (I predict when bilateral procedures are done in the US commercially, insurance companies will pay $100,000 plus.) I don't make recommendations, so I'm not recommending you have the procedure. I am recommending that you understand it so you can make an informed decision (and I know that sounds like splitting hairs.) If you want to read first-hand accounts/anecdotes, go to FUS for Parkinson's on Facebook.

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Buckholt in reply to MBAnderson

There is obviously a big difference in the US between the price and cost of medical care. How could such a massive sum be calculated fairly.? Think of a number then double it?

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MBAnderson in reply to Buckholt

DBS over the 5 years cost on average $186,000.

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Buckholt in reply to MBAnderson

Cost? My point was that the “cost” of providing these treatments must be a fraction of the “price” being charged. There is obviously investment in expensive equipment, but I’d be interested to see an invoice setting out the elements of charge to get to $100K.

I realise, coming from the UK, that under our system there might be some rationing which might lead to delay in being treated. But the cost is shared out amongst the whole population, and due the absence of profit in the system,the procedure is effectively carried out at little more than cost. As an outsider looking on, the US seems to be engaged in an upward spiral of excessive charging leading to ever increasing insurance premiums and exclusions and uncovered people.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kll-y...

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MBAnderson

$100,000 figure is for 2 separate procedures 6 months apart, so $50,000 per.

These procedures will be done in hospitals and hospitals charge an arm and a leg for their overhead. I had a sham pallidotomy procedure and they were mailing the bills to me accidentally. The anesthesiologist charged $8000 for 2 hours and did nothing.

Hospital charges are part of the healthcare cost problem in the US.

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Buckholt in reply to MBAnderson

It must be a system that makes the participants very wealthy. Why are insurers going along with it and not clamping down? In a free market, you’d expect competition between providers to drive prices down.

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jimcaster in reply to MBAnderson

Wow. "Fake anesthesiologist" could be a lucrative post-retirement side job. Since we wouldn't actually do anything, I think our current academic credentials should be more than adequate. 😊

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MBAnderson in reply to jimcaster

🤣

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38yroldmale

MB

This is great news!! I wanted to ask how much it has helped your symptoms percentage wise? Are you tremor or stiffness dominate? I too haven’t had any response to c/l and am stiffness dominant?

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MBAnderson in reply to 38yroldmale

Go to my profile where I have posted several detailed threads.

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MBAnderson in reply to MBAnderson

Yes, I'm very pleased with the outcome.

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Fighttolive

Their response to my inquiry.

"I hope this email finds you well. As a sponsor of this trial, we are still in the early stages. We do not have any sites open yet, however, we are anticipating a few to be open by April. I will update site contact information on clinicaltrials.gov once they are open to enrollment. You will need to reach out to the treating sites. You can keep checking clinicaltrials.gov or you could reach out to me in April and I would be more than happy to put you in contact with the sites.

I would like to thank you for your interest in this clinical trial.

Regards,

Gagan

Gaganjot Sooch​

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Clinical Project Manager

T:+1‑972‑421‑0193

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M: +1-214-907-4509

Gaganjot@Insightec.com

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insightec.com"

lenamm profile image
lenamm in reply to Fighttolive

Thank you for posting this! It is very helpful for those who want to be in the trial

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Fighttolive in reply to lenamm

I'm thinking I will opt for the Switzerland clinic even if they approve it here. I'm really interested in the data coming out of this though. But in terms of track record, experience and precision on target I would swallow the cost, even though it's steep.

Really not sure how any teams in the world really have any experience with this target. It will be interesting to see their backgriunds.

You guys and your documented experiences really give me a sense of hope when the drugs stops working due to progression.

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lenamm in reply to Fighttolive

I agree, it is Dr. J's baby and he and Dr. G are excellent. I don't regret for a moment going there twice! Would love to see more than one clinic in the world doing it though!

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jimcaster

I wonder if there is even a chance that Dr. Jeanmonod or Dr. Gallay could be involved with this as instructors or as practitioners at one of the sites. That would make things even more interesting.

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MBAnderson in reply to jimcaster

The doctor who performed the sham pallidotomy on me in Columbus Ohio turned out to be 1 of the peer reviewers/editors of Dr. J's 51 consecutive cases paper, so I suspect he's in communication with a number of them.

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