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Professor Foltynie said: "Our study has strengthened evidence that there is a link between type 2 diabetes and Parkinson's disease, although it remains clear that most people with diabetes will not go on to develop Parkinson's.

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park_bear

Sugar also increases risk of cardiovascular disease. See my writing here:

Sugar, Fat And Cardiovascular Disease

tinyurl.com/y5cfmygz

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Carolbren11 in reply to park_bear

The hypoglycemia with PD races the heart when the sugar drops.

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park_bear in reply to Carolbren11

The most effective way to cause severe hypoglycemia is to eat a bunch of sugar. That will cause a big release of insulin into your bloodstream and the effect will overshoot causing a severe drop in your blood sugar level.

The way to avoid this is to avoid sugar as much as possible. To the extent you eat carbs they should be complex carbs – whole grains, etc. Fats have been given a bad rap when it comes to cardiovascular disease – see my writing at the link in the previous comment and also here:

A Tale Of Two Studies Leads To A Deeper Understanding Of Cardiovascular Disease

tinyurl.com/y6agl45j

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Godiv in reply to park_bear

Oh this looks great, Park. I look forward to reading these articles; it’s helpful to hear and learn bad things about Sugar. It’s like I have to constantly remind myself it’s not good at all for us. So thank you.

A few days ago I read an article about exenatide (Byetta), a diabetes type 2 drug, in clinical trials for PD. Early indications seem to show it may halt progression of PD. Given that I started a keto diet which is helpful in controlling blood glucose levels and insulin resistance. It’s day 4 and it’s a difficult diet to follow. I modified it slightly to be closer to a paleo diet. Tremors seem to be slightly reducing. Let’s see how I’m doing a month from now. I come from a family full of type 2 diabetics. They have suffered from amputation and blindness. I am the only one in my family where it could be manifesting as PD. Lastly diabetics and PwPs also both have reduced production of short chain fatty acids. Keto and hopefully paleo diets help with gut dysbiosis. One truly last fact if you look at a world map you will see that countries with a higher prevalence of diabetes have a higher prevalence of PD for example China. This is consistent with a Finnish study showing diabetics are more likely to develop PD. Anyway sorry for the disjointed information dump. I’m just very excited about possibly finding the underlying cause of PD.

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Carolbren11 in reply to

The reason B1 runs low in people is due to sugar depleting the vitamin.

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Buckholt in reply to

Been keto /low carb for about 18 months. I would say I’m doing well and feeling good.

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Carolbren11 in reply to Buckholt

How were you before the diet?

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Buckholt in reply to Carolbren11

I was OK then too but I would say progression is slow

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My grandfather was diabetic. My father and brother (both have passed on) were type 2 diabetic. I have had hypoglycemia my entire life. When I stay away from sugar or when I intermittent fast, it reduces my tremors. It's difficult to avoid sugar though.

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I’d be interested to hear how it goes for sure. I have some diabetes in my family too, although no Parkinson’s either except for me. Is the goal with the keto diet to put yourself in ketosis for the rest of your life? No worries if you don’t have time to answer; I can look it up and might try to get into it too.

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pdpatient

Carol, totally true. I am living proof. I was diagnosed with diabetes in 1999 & Parkinson's in 2012.

Presciently, I was watching Michael J Fox on TV while reading the article on BBC about the link between diabetes and Parkinson's in the year 2007 to be exact! Ever since I had been expecting the other shoe to drop.

Unfortunately for me, it did.

Can you please provide a link for the professor's article please?

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Carolbren11 in reply to pdpatient

medicalxpress.com/news/2020...

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Godiv in reply to pdpatient

Sorry to hear that PD. Diabetes is a very rough disease just by itself.

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pdpatient in reply to Godiv

Godiv, so true. BTW, my book is fiction. Sorry for the late reply to your question.

Classic boy meets girl stuff with a Parkinson's angle. You will know it's mine when you see this title " Romance in the wilderness". Most likely Amazon Kindle.

I'm thinking of a good pen name to complement. Let you give if you think of something.

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Godiv in reply to pdpatient

Oh good! I’ll look forward to that. But you have to let the forum know when you publish. Oh ... what would be a good name? The nom de plume, hmmm. It probably depends on if you want to get sort of romantic like, “Destiny Marelis, “ Or more rough and tumble like “Pug Jensen.” I’m kidding but you have to think about what you want to convey with the name.

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pdpatient in reply to Godiv

I like Destiny!! Good start...

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Godiv in reply to pdpatient

OK, the more romantic and mystical names LOL. Destiny Morelan, Caroline Grace Atwood, Avery Atolay, Josiah Grace Benton, Destiny Moore, Destiny Duchovny, Allison Atwood, Destiny Desha ... 😀. This is addictive, but I should get off the board and stop for everyone’s sake. Ha!

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pdpatient in reply to Godiv

LoL. Thanks, Godiv. That's a very nice list. Yes would do well as a branding person.

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Godiv in reply to pdpatient

Thank you. Kind of fun and silly, but you do want to pick something or create something that you really like. And can live with for when you’re on the bestseller list! Thank you: I love marketing and product names and branding and stuff like that. :)

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pdpatient in reply to Godiv

Good morning and thank you for your encouragement. It's heartening 🙂I will DM you when I'm done and we can discuss more.

BTW, is this what you do?

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Godiv in reply to pdpatient

I’m so glad it helps! I think writing a book of any kind is a very noble endeavor and quite an accomplishment. I don’t do marketing now but do enjoy the creative side of life I guess you could say. I’m always up for ideas and encouragement for you, but you probably would want a real professional If you decide you need some marketing. I’m kind of rusty unfortunately. But like I said, am happy to blurt out ideas and offer encouragement. 😀

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Godiv in reply to pdpatient

I suppose Pug isn’t a very rough and tumble name, though, is it LOL?

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alexask

Indeed. And I am wondering whether the benefits of many of the supplements for PD are in fact their ability to help with Diabetes. For instance Melatonin, CoQ10 and Curcumin - all have some evidence as to their ability to regulate blood sugar.

I did once get a Free style libre for 2 weeks - a continuous blood sugar monitor. I was quite surprised to see my blood sugar spiking when exercising (even sawing wood) and eating. Even during sleep it didn't go down to the 4 mmol you would expect. I cut out alcohol, hit the gym and went low carb, often skipping breakfast. Lunch tended to be cauliflower cheese and pork scratchings. After a mere four days, my insulin reaction was normal - I tried it - eating biscuits and cakes - no spike. And my nighttime sugars went down to 4mmol and stayed there.

And can I have a little rant here. For the last 30 years governments advice has been for a low fat diet to lose weight. This advice has caused an epidemic of diabetes and related illnesses. Even now the (UK) NHS diabetes program advises:

"Try to eat regularly and include a variety of foods from each of the following food groups:

Breads, rice, potatoes, pasta, cereals and other starchy food

Make one these foods part of every meal

Choose wholemeal, wholegrain, brown or high fibre white bread"

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It also has this advice on high fat food:

"These foods should be eaten and used sparingly as eating too much can lead to being overweight".

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There is no evidence behind that assertion. Fat doesn't make you fat in the same way that tomatoes don't make you red.

And no, breakfast (especially if you are a man), is not the most important meal of the day.

Anyway I am off to the market to get some broccoli and avocados.

Also fruit is not that good for you. One apple a day might be ok.

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