Hi there! Has anyone had a reaction to the buckwheat/quinoa in the Baseline phase of Paddison? I’ve eliminated meat, oils and dairy over the last month, and then last weekend did the 2 day cleanse. Awesome results, no pain. Once I started the baseline, it was worse than it’s been in 6 months. So I’ve had to pause for a bit, might wait a few weeks and introduce buckwheat or quinoa separately. I was so hopeful! RA is SO diet/gut related...
Thanks!
I have not done the Paddison diet but I do believe the gut plays a huge part of inflammation and RA. I am doing a low inflammation diet (green smoothies) and if adding the grains cause a problem I would eliminate them. I find that refined sugar causes issues with my gut. And I also think it takes yrs to clean/heal the gut before putting foods that cause problems back into the body.
I think elimination of grains can lead to weight loss as well as a good access to protein. So for a short period may be ok.
There are a small number of people who struggle with quinoa buckwheat on PP. I think the general recommendation is to try white basmati rice. I know Clint paddisson has helped troubleshoot a fe people personally via his forum. Another grain to try is amaranth.
Thanks Andy! I’ve tried Basmati just this weekend with no issues, so I think that might be an option. He says it’s not as nutritious but very alkalizing, right - so I would love either the buckwheat or quinoa to work when tried on their own. Thanks for the tip about Amaranth, I haven’t tried it yet...seems a bit harder to find. It’ll give it a month and try again, had lost quite a bit of weight there towards the end of Baseline. Thanks so much!
If something works go with it. When I started the program my body seemed to react to most everything, but I could detect some reactions more than others. Or was it just blind persistence! Whatever after a while foods I initially reacted to seemed to cause less pain, and so the healing began.
Once you find a safe set of foods, if like some people you may decide to stay very close to them. The concept that your body is improving most days is an amazing experience and motivator to stay close to safe foods.
Once I got somewhere down the line I went through a slightly modified process of introducing a group of three foods at the same time. If I reacted to none of them then I knew they were all safe, if I reacted to something then I took one of two avenues. One is to reverse track and check each one individually in the days, and indeed weeks ahead. The other is to try another three foods, including one of the original three. If this new group caused no reaction then I knew that that food from the first group was actually safe. If I had a further reaction then that food that was in both set of three became highly suspect. Suspicous foods I would postpone retesting for weeks and sometimes months.
But as time goes by some foods are more important to get into the diet, to hit that varied and nutritious diet goal. Also some foods I just really wanted to know the answer to. So these foods get tested more often, more closely.
To manage all this I ran a very detailed spreadsheet. ideally you need some monitoring method to be able to track what tests you are doing, and what the reactions seem to be.
Early on reactions may not be reliable, because you are reacting to a range of foods. Also a C-reactive proteiin reaction can create a feedback look via the liver (where CRP is created, usually overnight while sleeping) so that further reactions occur in days ahead to foods you ate days ago. But over time these settle down and your understanding of how reactions occur in your body become more predictable.
Thanks Andy...I’ve got a little food journal but the idea of a spreadsheet - terrific! A lot easier to visualize and track. 👌. And when you introduced 3 foods at a time...would you eat those 3 foods together, for most meals over several days? I’m just starting with a rheumatologist next week, likely to start Mtx but will continue to eat vegan. I’ll try Paddison again once I know I have a grain I can tolerate in Baseline. Still having a wee glass of Celery juice every morning!
I’m one of those peculiar people that have a normal sed rate and normal CRP. My RF at Christmas was 70. Went plant based the first week of January, had blood drawn again Feb 7 and it was 50! 👍💪👍🙏
Can’t thank you enough for your detailed advice!
That’s so interesting that you say CRP is made overnight - is that why I’m more sore in the morning?
Have been unable to remain vegan but am very plant heavy, with my goal to return to being vegan. I have been diagnosed with post infectious IBS, no Crohns or UC.
Had a great spring - virtually no pain from May to October. Found out I’m very sensitive to emulsifiers like guar gum, often in coconut milk. Then I did some stool testing and an intestinal permeability test! OMG not a good idea. I’m back at square one for the last month — really sore. May have to consider trying medication again, even though historically they have not worked for me. (Aspirin does though, sadly!) Have you ever heard of the FUT 2 gene? A gene mutation “ non secretor” that makes it difficult for people to maintain a microbiome, and difficult to have medication that works. I know I’m a non secretor. I wonder how many other RA sufferers are? I think it can be tested through Ancestry.com or 24andme. My Rheumy has never heard of it. You can purchase human oligosaccharides from Holigos.com, which I’m considering doing. Have you heard of this?
I have NOT been good with taking probiotics or fermented food, always thought they gave me a bump. But I know now that my body needs it , I just need to start slowly.
If I need medication to get me over the hump, I guess I need to, but I can get back to where I was, I know it!
Thanks for any feedback you can give!
Judith
Seems like you are working hard on understanding your body. Keep it up - a lifelong challenge you cannot learn from anyone else!
For me, hot yoga heals the body in other ways, not least by smoothing the curve.
Yes, so many people start to feel pain rising as the night progresses.
Keep working and be in charge of your own body.
My latest change is to add VitD to my diet - not for the arthritis, but instead there is an increasing body of peer-reviewed research indicating protection against the worst excesses of covid.
Worse comes to worst in hunt for Amaranth, Jube24, good ole Amazon offers quite a few selections: amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c...
(Have had luck with ‘Bob’s Red Mill’.) Teeny tiny nourishing seeds. `````👌
Well done, Jube24! 👏 👏 . Well done. 😌 🙏 🍀 🌺 🌞
Hi Jube24, I am facing similar problem like you normal esr and crp but RF is 64 and ccp is >350. Can you share your update with Padisionprogram
Hi there! It’s been a long journey - with a new Rheumy and a gastroenterologist. Turns out my tummy issues are from food poisoning. My foot pain was never in both feet, so Rheumy doesn’t even think I have RA. So now I’m a dairy free, gluten free plant-heavy eater, and no processed food ! I’ve found out through trial and error that my major trigger is emulsifiers like guar gum and xantham gums, found in processed food, many dairy free yogurts, and gluten free bread. I haven’t eliminated meat, but as food sensitivities disappear and I gain some weight I’ll try vegan again. If you have RA I truly think vegan is the way to go if you can handle it.
My symptoms absolutely changed when I had food poisoning in January 2019. Digestive issues, weight loss and food sensitivities all started right then. I’m working with a naturopath to get me back on track.
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