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CATCH up CORNER...WEEK 2... I K'need to see you !

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They too, K'need love

Good morning everyone.

Here I am, a little late opening the Corner this week...this is deliberate:) I always find February an odd month, neither fish nor fowl, and I decided I wanted to start this months Chats on a Sunday!

Last week was very hectic for mr and the snow fall and the bitter cold, made a lot of things very tricky! I did get a run in last Sunday and one on Wednesday! Before the snow!

BUT:

I have a warm fire, the weather, which was mild yesterday has deteriorated, the cushions are waiting and the warm drinks and the morning snacks are ready for you.

A multitude of thoughts whizzing around my head this week, whilst reading your posts. As always, I never cease to be amazed and often humbled by your strength and your determination, to pursue your running.

Okay.. a thought that keeps coming back, is one that appears in my head often. When reading the posts, and deals, yet again, with an issue that crops up so, so regularly.

So, Knees... this is the ramble bit.

In most circumstances it is, generally excepted that running is not bad for your knees.

[Obviously in certain cases and conditions... expert advice may needed to clarify that this is the case}.

I feel too that most of us running, whether beginners or more seasoned runners amongst us would agree that any strength work done, which has a focus on our legs and our leg muscles is going to be beneficial? Hopefully also, reducing the chance of injury.

Strength exercises and the need for balance work too, poor balance, often resulting in a greater risk of injury.

What then are we able to do to support that bit of the legs, which support us?

Well, as a always, a dynamic warm up first,

Warm up:

Use a dynamic warm-up to increase your heart rate and blood circulation.

* Stand on your right leg and step forward and backwards. Repeat 10 times and then repeat on the other side.

* Perform two sets of 15 repetitions of each exercise at least twice per week.

Cool down:

* Ensure you stretch your back, hip flexors, front thighs, back of thighs and calf muscles. Hold each stretch for at least 40-60 seconds.

We always offer as a basic knee exercise, the one linked in the How to Run C25K, post.

nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/r...

There are so many exercises on the Strength and Flex Forum with many, links to posts about knees. Just browse around and see what you feel will suit you best; it needs to fit in with your time schedules and your lifestyle and... hopefully one you will not find too onerous. Maintaining a regular routine if you have knee issues is essential.

I am just going to add a few more that I found, in here. Exercise to be done at work, in the office or at your desk or table at home. You may get the odd strange look for, colleagues or family, but hey-ho. I like things like this because they can be done at anytime.. anywhere ! I do as I said in last week's post, sit in the evening, reading or watching TV and do ankle circles and toe exercises, etc. etc.

Quick, simple and effective.

Leg raises.

To perform seated leg raises, lift one leg straight out in front of you, keeping it extended for a few seconds, and then gently lower it back down. Repeat this motion with the other leg.

Calf raises.

Just sit upright in your chair and lift your heels up off the ground, then lower...repeat. In

Seated walking/marching

While staying in a seated position, elevate your knees individually, making a marching motion. Up and down, up and down... helping to strengthen hips and quads as well as the lower leg.

Circles:

Raise one foot slightly off the ground while seated and gently rotate your toes in small circles. This toe-circling exercise helps in preserving knee joint mobility. It encourages gentle movement in the knee, preventing stiffness that can occur during prolonged sitting.

Repeat with each foot.

Increasing repetitions will give more benefit.

Knee love while doing the housework. { There a few of these in a past post... !Finding the time '!

Walk briskly and quickly up and down stairs. It's better not to run; and keep your hands free, to ensure safety.

Putting things away? Squat! When picking up things from the floor, separate your feet and keep them aligned with your hips. Bend your knees as you go down, keeping your back straight and contracting your abdominals.

Vacuum cleaning? To strengthen leg muscles. While breathing out, take large steps, bending your front leg and simultaneously flexing your back leg until the knee is just a few centimeters from the ground. Alternate left and right.

Making a cuppa? Whilst waiting for the kettle to boil or watching a simmering saucepan; calf raises... you know the drill.

Start with your legs hip-width apart, before lifting up on to your toes. Hold this position for three to 10 seconds, before slowly coming down to stand on your whole feet again. Repeat this exercise 10 times per set, for three sets, with one minute rest in between sets. This can be done whilst washing the dishes too!

Okay.... just a few ideas here... sit back, relax and just breathe... then, when you are ready, maybe share any exercises, you do to keep those knees in check? Have you had any problems and what did you do to ease the problem. I do know that Bruch1 and ktsok have had a few problems... also LeeU ... hopefully they may pop in and share .

Looking forward to seeing you later. I'll be back after a very foggy run....if I am not, come looking !

Oldfloss x

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🍏 Oh so good to flop down in front of your fire Floss. I have literally just finished reading Beach_runner who has posted an excellent article about Knees too! It complements all you have to say here beautifully! We don’t ‘kneed’ any more excuses not to exercise and strengthen them.! Lovely to chat a wee while with you as ever! Xx

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply to Annieapple

Hello...Lovely to see you here and so relaxed, I am hoping that you have no residual effects after your little fall! x

It is good to know that we have so much supportive information out there to help us with any niggles or twinges in our knees! I know my right knee gave a twinge whilst I was doing my in bed, yoga wake-up routines, so I made sure I did a few more stretches before setting out today!

You are right, we really di not k'need any excuses... it is all there to support us... Thank you for popping in today! x

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Hello Floss. I have my coffee…

Knees… (sigh)

Lots of good advice there. I’ll add standing on one leg while brushing your teeth. And the new tip I learned - sitting with a hot water bottle (or heated blanket) on your knees for 15 minutes or so before the run. Don’t skimp on the 5 minute brisk warm up walk. If there is swelling, it’s our old friend RICE: rest, ice, compression, elevation.

I think the evidence is that running is generally good for you and running with good form helps strengthen knees; poor running form can cause injuries. It’s like most repetitive activities - if you are doing something lopsided, problems develop.

I have the specific issue of osteoarthritis. I had meniscus repair and micro-fracture surgery too. There is no way I could have got back running without a lot of walking. I built up from short walks to Nordic walking, where I was marching around the countryside at quite a pace! As the muscles built up, running eventually became possible again.

Learning to live with pain is a thing. I have a repeat prescription of opiates for the bad days. Pain relief was essential for me - I couldn’t walk properly, and my poor form was causing problems elsewhere.

I should do more exercises - I can barely hop on either leg (this is an improvement - I haven’t been able to hop for a couple of years). I used to be able to do one legged squats down the ground and back! This weakness in my legs has meant I have really had to think about my running form and make some adjustments. Engage the glutes, don’t drop the hips, head up, chest open, use the arms, back straight - and of course, smaller, softer ‘ninja’ steps.

Also, I have started doing yoga again. It’s shocking how tight my hamstrings and hip flexors are at the moment. Stiffness = higher likelihood of poor form and injury. The pain is quite intense - if I can breathe through it, I stay with it, if I can’t relax, then I ease off. My poses sometimes don’t resemble the woman’s on YouTube!

P.S. I have just ordered a wobble board - I use one at the climbing gym and it’s a fun way of building balance.

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply to ktsok

Hello and thank you so, so much for sharing this information! I am hoping that a few more folk will pop in and read this.

You have really had some issues and how you have coped with them is really amazing. Not siting back and accepting things you have actively strived to improve things and have succeeded, although I know you still do have hard times x

Yoga... hmm yes. I love YWA, but I do have to tweak occasionally... I have an old neck injury... botched treatment after a whiplash injury. Mr OF and I have recently started T'ai Chi classes, to hopefully improve Mr Of's balance. After just three, fourth on Tuesday, he has already felt a difference. He does a 15 minute morning session every day and is visibly improving.

You will have to post and let us know how the wobble board goes... I had to use one of them when recovering from a torn Achilles tendon. Gosh, they do help balance and they do strengthen those feet and ankles too!

Thank you so much for calling in, you are welcome any time. Well done you ... doing wonderfully !

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ktsokGraduate in reply to Oldfloss

I’m so glad the Tai Chi is helping Mr. OF. Being off-balance is so debilitating, sucks the confidence out of you and those around you. And I’m sorry to hear about the botched treatment. What did they do that they should/shouldn’t have done? I ask because I’m planning a visit to the osteopath soon about a whiplash injury…

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Well..it was a while ago..traction. but thet suspended the wrong arm..the wrong way around..and injured my neck.!Treatment now must be different

Yes..his Type 2 diabetes affected his balance. He is okay walking, cycling etc but unsteady on uneven surfaces..steps need to be negotiated carefully.

It will be so good for his mind set if progress continues.

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Lovely to read your chat. I was so relieved when my osteopath told me my knee joints were OK and it's just my quads that need strengthening. I always warm up and cool down as recommended but have now incorporated other quad/knee exercises into my regime and after resting for a couple of weeks I plan on doing my first run on Tuesday - probably an easy 20 mins for the first one and then hopefully some longer ones on holiday. Many thanks for your chat and advice. Have a great week.

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OldflossAdministratorGraduate in reply to Bruch1

Hello and welcome. Thank you so much for popping on today to share your experiences. I really hope some of our newer runners head here too! Those exercises from your Physio are helping and you, really sensibly doing your thing too. !

Every little thing we do impacts, however small and those stretches' and exercises that you add, will soon show their worth.

I hope the run goes well and I bet you are looking forward to your hols! Maybe a running post or two? If you get chance. Meantime, thank you again... sit down a while longer and just relax. x

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