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If trigs are lowest ever by LDL and total cholesterol are high does this mean that despite the figures, this is a good result as VLDL in LDL is actually also very low? (HDL is 1.2)

UK:

Total C: 6.8

LDL: 4.5

HDL : 1.2

Trigs: 1.2

Probable cause of trigs falling:

weightloss

more exercise

LCHF (fat being non-saturated)

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kasibarndoor

I think you would be better to avoid polyunsaturated fats and eat butter olive oil and saturated fats

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Paul12 in reply to kasibarndoor

Saturated fat raises triglycerides.

my.americanheart.org/idc/gr...

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kasibarndoor in reply to Paul12

If you read section 2 it says that carbohydrates raise triglyceride levels, Omega 3 helps reduce LDL levels. Omega 6 is inflammatory and man made fats contain the wrong ratio of Omega 6 to Omega 3 and may also contain trans fats as well butter dairy and animal fat should be your main source of fat. This blog is quite interesting as he looks at all the studies not just those that support his own theories. thefatemperor.com also look at the book he has joint authored a book which also includes a diet amazon.co.uk/Books-Ivor-Cum... also google Aseem Malhotra who is a UK based cardiologist he has written a book on diet amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&key...

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Paul12 in reply to kasibarndoor

Thank you . I read some reviews of Pioppi diet - they ripped it to bits for factual inaccuracies.

I did read section 3 - that’s where it says saturated fat raises triglycerides. ( also simple carbs and sugar)

That’s why I queried your suggestion for more saturated fat

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kasibarndoor in reply to Paul12

The people of Pioppi live longer, UNESCO has named it home of the mediterranean diet, Dr Malhotra is a cardiologist not a dietitian you must all remember that all our "experts" have been indoctrinated by the food pyramid, which was adopted originally by the American heart association, not based on science but on Senator McCarthy saying we have not got time for more research. He represented a state that grew wheat and corn so he wasn't biased was he!

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Paul12 in reply to kasibarndoor

Sure - but the “Pioppi diet” book is not what people in Pioppi eat. Anyway my original post is about VLDL....

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Markl60

Your Trig to HDL ratio is 1:1 which is below the suggested max of 2:1. I think if you can drop your trigs to 1 all the better. Dr Sinatra suggests Bergamot for lowering trigs and raising HDL, give it a try

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Paul12 in reply to Markl60

I agree. My question remains though...

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Markl60 in reply to Paul12

I think I answered your question Paul, your numbers are fine stop worrying

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Paul12 in reply to Markl60

Do low trigs mean low VLDL even though ldl is up?

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Markl60 in reply to Paul12

VLDL transport Trigs so if your Trigs are low I would guess your VLDL is low

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Paul12 in reply to Markl60

Hopefully!

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kasibarndoor

Have you had your VLDL level measured? A/Prof Ken Sikaris has a number of lectures on you tube one is called understanding the numbers or something like that, he puts more emphasis on VLDL and ratios, they are probably worth a watch.

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Paul12

Yes VLDL incredibly high - but that was a year ago and trigs were higher

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bobaxford

My latest numbers similar

Total C: 5.19

LDL: 2.1

HDL : 2.61

Trigs: 1.06

But my trigs were far better all below 1 while following the Esselstyn diet before I introduced olive oil on my salads- as per Malhotra/ Pioppi diet

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Paul12

As above, the Pioppi diet is very flawed

As far as oils go....

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1...

healthyeating.sfgate.com/ol...

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superempi

I'm from U.S. and not being to smart just found out that during the cholesterol test that the LDL is calculated - and if your Tri's are under 100 (for U.S.) you should request a direct LDL

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Paul12 in reply to superempi

I suspect you mean over 100?

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superempi in reply to Paul12

no they claim if under 100 and can give you a bad LDL - a low Tri count can give you a false LDL. they have a HDL and tri count and assume everything else is LDL

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Paul12

Well well...

Thankyou!

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1...

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