Reducing cholesterol by diet

[Billyboybad]

Can I get my cholesterol down from 6.2 down to 5 in two months with diet changes and exercise

[bobaxford]

Yes, definitely. Just give up all animal and dairy products- you wil also loose weight and feel better too. I have been on this for 4 years now and stopped taking statins too.

[Billyboybad in reply to bobaxford]

Hi bobaxford . Thanks . I was going to eat more fish and less meat but do love my meat I’m afraid . And cut back on alcohol

[Markl60]

I really would not get too obsessed with Cholesterol levels, you are putting the cart before the horse. I have been doing some analysis of the raw China study data and some findings may surprise you

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[Markl60]

I agree I am whole food plant based with fish so my sat fat is not high but I try to load up on Mono fat. People have been taught to be obsessed with Cholesterol and sat fat when the elephant in the room is simple processed carbs, white flour, veg oils and wheat. I know bread is hard to give up but if you do you will be glad

[Paul12]

Has it occurred to anyone that it is what is ON the wheat that is the problem and the total amount of calories if you consume a lot if wheat?

[Billyboybad]

Ok good views and opinions . I’ll cut out white bread only occasional whole meal . Also increase slightly extra virgin oil and salads like beetroot cucumber etc

[sos007 Ambassador]

Total cholesterol is not a meaningful measure. To reduce LDL cholesterol, eliminate all sugar, sweets, and simple carbohydrate foods such as white flour products (white bread, white pasta, pizza) as well as white rice and white potatoes. Reduce alcohol intake to no more than one drink per day and make sure it is only red wine. Eliminate fruit juices and soft drinks. You can have carbonated water with a squirt of lemon juice.

Walk for 30 minutes daily at a brisk pace.

Take 1,000 mg doses of vitamin C, 3 times per day, before each meal, along with a supplement called Lysine (an amino acid).

If you do this consistently you'll achieve your goals and lose weight at the same time. Keep animal protein including fish to no more than once per day, and keep portions to 3 oz. Fill up on all greens.

Good luck.

[sandybrown in reply to sos007]

In you understanding when a lab takes for lipid test, can you please tell me what is measured and what is calculated or estimated?

We all know there is a formula that says TC= X + Y + z + a/b

[sos007 Ambassador in reply to sandybrown]

Total cholesterol, and HDL are directly measured. LDL is a calculated value. Triglycerides are also directly measured. Total cholesterol minus HDL = non-HDL. Non-HDL is an alternative treatment target to LDL since it includes other remnant cholesterol particles like chylomicrons.

When using mmol/l:

Friedewald Formula: LDL-c = TC-HDL-c-(TG/2.2)

There are alternative formulas for LDL-c calculations which can produce significantly different values. This is why non-HDL is probably a better treatment marker and even more superior to that, is a direct measure of LDL and all of its subfractions using an NMR Lipoprofile test.

Apo B and Apo A1 are also superior biomarkers. ApoB is a proxy for LDL-P (particle number) which research has shown is more important than LDL-C which only measures volume.

[sandybrown in reply to sos007]

Total cholesterol, and HDL are directly measured. This implies every thing depends on total cholesterol!

[sos007 Ambassador in reply to sandybrown]

Bala, you're arguing semantics.

The fact that total cholesterol is used an in input in determining other cholesterol values does not make it, in isolation, an important biomarker for treatment. If total cholesterol were 6.0 and HDL were 2.5, then it is very likely the patient would be healthy and the TC value would be of no relevance.

Doctors who base treatment recommendations, in the form of drugs, on a total cholesterol value alone should have their licenses revoked.

Secondly, the primary treatment for elevated LDL-C and triglycerides should always be dietary and lifestyle modification first, along with supplementation of natural micronutrients.

Hippocratic Oath, in part, states:

"I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgement, and I will do no harm or injustice to them [patients]."

'...do no harm...'

Drugs often cause harm. Basing medication treatment on total cholesterol demonstrates an ignorance to the role of cholesterol in the body.

[sandybrown in reply to sos007]

Fundamentals and basic! It is imperative that the foundation is correct.

I rest my case

[sos007 Ambassador in reply to sandybrown]

Your argument is fundamentally flawed and you have no case to rest.

[Billyboybad in reply to sos007]

Thanks sos007 can I eat fruit 7 portions satsumas , berries instead of cut c tablets

[sos007 Ambassador in reply to Billyboybad]

You can eat them, but it won't be enough vitamin C. You'd only be up to about 600 mg per day, not to mention getting a little too much fructose.

You need at least 2,000 to 3,000 mg daily to have a material reduction in your LDL cholesterol. Optimal dosage is even higher at between 3,000 mg and 6,000 mg per day. The only side effect of high dosages of vitamin C is a soft stool. If you eat red meat daily, you should cut back as vitamin c helps the body retain iron. Therefore, you might end up with elevated levels of ferritin in your blood if you continue eating a lot of red meat daily and supplementing with high doses of vitamin C.

Red meat also contains something called TMAO, which has been found to contribute to heart disease. Eggs also contain TMAO. You can still have eggs and red meat but you must have them infrequently (once a week) to allow your body time to dipose of the TMAO.

Mainstream medical advice has created the myth that all the vitamins you need can be acquired in your diet. For one, the vast majority of people in the developed world have a very poor diet as it is not as varied as it should be and is generally oriented toward animal protein and starches.

Secondly, avoiding the negative implications of vitamin deficiency even through a varied diet does not necessarily result in optimal health. Especially with something like vitamin c which is required in very large quantities to provide our bodies with the resources to repair all of the damage that occurs daily due to an inflammatory lifestyle (poor diet and lack of exercise, excess body weight), exposure to toxins in our food chain, water supply and air.

Virtually all animals on the planet except humans and primates synthesize vitamin c internally. Cholesterol is the alternative repair mechanism to collagen, that evolution created so that we can continue to survive. However, at a certain age, plaque accumulation will trigger blockages and potentially blood clots.

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