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Going to see my doctor today to discuss my recent Cholesterol results. 7.0. LDL 4.3 and HDL 2.2.

I have no intention of going on Statins so hoping to improve my diet. It is not a bad diet although I don't tend to eat fruit and need to increase my veg intake. I eat porridge every day and prefer wholewheat pasta and rice. I eat red meat, mainly lean mince twice a week but the rest of the time its chicken or fish.

I am 58, not overweight and BP is ok. at 120/78 so hoping I won't be forced to go on statins.

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Hi Zelda,

You cannot be "forced". The decision is entirely yours.

The following may/not be helpful to you. I just posted it as a reply to another post on this forum, so I've copied it to you too.

The brain and body require cholesterol.

Cholesterol lowering statins/meds reduce inflammation. Inflammation is one reason for high cholesterol. So consider eliminating inflammation-causing foods such as sunflower oil, rapeseed oil, sugars, etc.

The thyroid & pituitary glands are master glands and are known (by astute medics) to regulate cholesterol and lipid levels. Blood tests for these are FT3, FT4 and TSH. So when testing the thyroid/pituitary, all three of these blood tests shouid be tested at the same time, on the same day. If not, a correct overview cannot be accurately gauged. It would be akin to trying to evaluate three legs of a tripod when you only have two legs of the tripod in front of you. If either/both of these glands is functioning even slightly less than optimally, there will be an impact to the cholesterol/lipids levels. So this is another reason for high cholesterol.

Having consulted many GPs and consultants myself, across many years, I know that these medics frequently tell their patients that their thyroid/pituitary results are "normal" or are in "the normal range". But, unless the patient has the printout of their own blood tests with the reference ranges, they will not know if the medic actually did all three of these tests, and will not know if their results were in exactly the right part of the reference ranges. It is important to know where in the reference range the results are. Are they at the top, at the bottom, or in the middle?

Were your triglycerides also tested? If so, a high triglyceride result indicates a diet that is high in starch/flour/grains/carbs/sugars.

If your thyroid/pituitary blood tests were done and you have the printout of those results and reference ranges, you can consider posting them on the Thyroid UK forum of healthunlocked and asking for some feedback/opinions/advice. 🖖🏻

Zelda247 profile image
Zelda247 in reply to Londinium

I don't know if triglycerides were tested, I will check with him.

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Londinium in reply to Zelda247

Remember that you are legally entitled to a copy of your own lab tests with the reference ranges (regardless of whether a medic, secretary or receptionist says there's no point in you having them). 🖖🏻

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4BBK in reply to Londinium

I love your analysis;

I recently quit statins because I got to sick to take them. I was going to go in for blood tests, but, on further ado, I am going to forget them, because I feel so much better daily after giving up statins, and taking CoQ10 that I don't really care if high cholesterol will kill me some time in the future or if something else will

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Londinium in reply to 4BBK

Hi 4BBK,

Were you replying to me? If so, thankyou for the compliment. 🖖🏻

You may already know that CoQ10 is very important to the heart muscle and statins, rather unhelpfully, reduce the CoQ10 levels. Therefore, medics should make a point of prescribing CoQ10 with statins.

You might want to google Dr Peter Langsjoen. He's a second generation CoQ10 expert (following in his father's footsteps). 🖖🏻

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Zelda247 in reply to Londinium

Went to docs and yes my triglycerides were tested, result is 1.1.

She did not say thankfully that I need to go on Statins as my Good Cholesterol was so good it would take my overall score down to a 6.0 instead of a 7.0 which is not so terrible.

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sandybrown in reply to Zelda247

Did you doctor offer to do a rick analysis and fully explain the numbers?

It is worth asking you doctor for this, this is a guide line only, watching out for free sugar and hidden sugar in food and drinks with regular can help to stay healthy.

No mention of a rick analysis. In relation to health I started cutting back on sugar about 6 months ago so got that in hand.

sandybrown profile image
sandybrown in reply to Zelda247

Any god doctor or GP can offer this, please do ask for a JBS3 or QRISK analysis with full explanation. Some doctors and GP do use a ration and offer full explanation.

Both JBS3 and QRISK are available on line but you all your health check numbers to carry out the check.

You can never be forced onto anything.

Your numbers aren't that much higher than mine - actually your LDL is slightly below mine - and I'm not on statins (although I do take an absorption inhibitor). If your GP tries to strongarm you, ask for referral to a hospital lipid clinic and see if you find wiser medics there.

There was no pressure to go on Statins at all which was great. She was saying as by BP was fine and I am slim etc she was not too worried. She said my good Cholesterol 2.2 was excellent and my trigriclerides 1.1 score was also good so that was positive.

You have just described a pretty bad diet which is the basic problem for most of us in the western world. We all think the western diet you have described is on the whole pretty good when in actual fact its pretty lousy. If you want to drop your numbers and avoid statins I suggest taking Niacin (full flush). It will without a doubt reduce your LDL. With regard to your diet

Cut out the wheat

Increase Veggies and fruit

Cut out the meat

Switch to brown rice or preferably black rice

Stop eating meat and chicken and if eating fish stick to wild pacific or sockeye salmon or smaller breeds such as anchovies mackerel or sardines

Kyolic aged garlic has also been shown to lower cholesterol

sos007 profile image

It is okay to eat fruit because it contains fiber and you need the nutrients. It is fruit 'Juice' you should avoid since it doesn't have fiber. Also minimize alcohol consumption. Red wine is optimal when having alcohol.

The issue with red meat is not necessarily saturated fat and cholesterol but it's impact on your gut bacteria and it's calorie density (a lot of calories per serving). Consider having it once every couple of weeks instead. Replace animal protein with vegetable protein available in nuts and beans. Chick peas and lentils are also excellent. Avoid packaged foods with hidden sugars. Ingredients ending in 'ose', 'ohol', 'itol' are all different terms for sugar. White flour products such as white bread and pizza dough should be avoided. Use whole grain bread or pizza dough instead.

Most importantly, daily exercise. A 30 minute brisk walk daily is a minimum for good health and to drop the LDL-P levels.

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