Long overdue 'anti alcohol report'

[chrisw740]

Morning, I hope you find this relevant.

It's been seen as a watershed proclamation. The so called benefits of small amounts alcohol (especially wine) have been touted for centuries when it comes to cardiovascular health. Four days ago the World Heart Federation officially changed the message. Unequivocally changed it.

Together with our growing understanding about alcohols' role in many cancers (particularly gastric) this report finally removes one of the very last 'pro alcohol arguments'

The link to download The Policy Brief is at the bottom of the press release.

world-heart-federation.org/...

Obviously, the drinks industry will continue the big sell unabated but this still matters for debunking the last health myth.

[Positive001]

Great post Chris.... finally they have realised there are NO health benefits to any amount of poison being put into our system .... hurrah !! L xx

[Aotea2012]

That’s good, last myth busted! I’ve noticed the way alcohol was advertised in the run up to Xmas. Very insidious. Every other advert was for celebrating with alcohol. The TV programmes are no better with alcohol appearing in pretty much every soap and the pub being the centre of the street or square! I think, sadly, this health news will take some time to filter through. On a more positive note, my nephews generation are more health conscious than mine and it’s become ok not to drink. He and his friends are into the gym and water is the only thing he drinks. So there is hope!

[pushthrough]

Great find Chris. Alcohol is the ultimate business model when you think about it. People drink when they are sad and they also drink when they are happy.

[Richard-Allen]

Good post Chris. I'm not sure if anyone saw Dr Xany on BBC's "Morning Live" this morning. But he too was warning about this very subject.

I have copied and edited this section, just to illustrate this very point. Because of the size of this video file, I have uploaded it onto YouTube, as I feel this is an important message and should be made more readily available: youtu.be/sA4yyJn4gRA(Not working as expected?)

[chrisw740 in reply to Richard-Allen]

Thanks Richard,

This policy briefing (which has already been picked up by some US news outlets) is the first time that the old excuses around drinks like red wine being good for you - have been completely contradicted by an international consortium of heart health specialists. It is really well worth a read.

I will absolutely check out your link too.

Thanks again

Chris

[Charlie-legs]

About time!!!! The alcohol free drinks that are advertised contain around 0.05% alcohol so it is false advertising and frustrating.

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[Zukosmile07]

I'm happy but it's hard now as an ex alcoholic, I see my mates, I can't go out with them because it has to be drinking related, I have 2 mates who like a game of golf (as do I) and as soon as they get back to the clubhouse.... it's drink time. I do not want to sound like a hypocrite after all the drinking in the past, even by just telling them the truth and the affects.Bye (chosen to spell it this way) changing your life you have to chose from who you associate with. All in all drinking has altered my life for too long and I'm going to embrace this change for the better.

Proof is just helping me.

All the best everyone else 💓

Danny x

[user2021a in reply to Zukosmile07]

It’s a shame your friends won’t change their routines or at least be considerate to your situation. Whilst my liver damage not caused by alcohol it did stop me drinking. I used to drink fairly heavily when I did go out and always felt more sociable when I did. I stopped going out for a while after but then realised I could go out and not drink and actually still have a good time. My friends had seen me ill and were supportive. I became very popular as the designated driver. Any friends who I did lose contact with because all they wanted to do was get wasted on a night out weren’t a great loss.

[Zukosmile07 in reply to user2021a]

Lads are different, I couldn't ask my mates to meet up for a coffee, no chance and I wouldn't. I have a master plan of working around the country and seeing the sights on the way. Make friends as you go and probably find the best, most relaxing place to live. Todarrrrrr, just like that.....😆🤣

[Hidden in reply to user2021a]

But there still your friends then surely?

[Zukosmile07 in reply to Hidden]

Of course 😊, most are from school, I I took my nephew to the snooker club (he loves pool) and there was just a few watching the football and having a laugh, I really miss the laughs, Daz come straight over checking for bottles (messin about) they wouldn't let me buy a drink if I wanted. Joining in with that kind of laugh, you know nipping outside every 10 minutes having a smoke back in another round......so on.🤪 crazy but yeah I found myself saying "come on jack we are going" he's not Happy and had to sweeten him up by taking him bowling. Had a good laugh a different way (even though the little git beat me the first game) hahahaha 🤣

[Zukosmile07 in reply to Zukosmile07]

Just seen, you weren't asking me. Never mind 😏, have a good en.x

[user2021a in reply to Hidden]

I've not fallen out with anyone over not drinking. I have lots of friends who accept that I don't drink who I see regularly, often in pubs. I think as you go through life you always make new friends and lose contact with those you don't have as much in common with any more, not necessarily just because you no longer drink. I sometimes have to explain to people that I don't drink and you have some people that say "go on one drink won't hurt you" but accept that I don't drink. The biggest thing that annoys me about not drinking is the price of soft drinks in pubs and bars. I've had instances where a pint of diet coke was more than a pint of beer or getting charged £2 for a pint of cordial mixed with water.

[Zukosmile07 in reply to user2021a]

Totally agree, I paid 6.40 sovs for 2 Coca-Cola's in the snooker club. Shocking, they wasn't even pints. About 500ml which we all know are 2 bottles for 2 quid in the shop. Grrrrrrrrr another reason not to go out with my mate's. Hey chill out 2021 I was in a good mood earlier. Hahahaha 🤣🤣 x

[X19Dave]

Good find but again a bit one sided we are all different some people get no bad effects from alcohol my wife drank very little but did have small amounts every day and had to have a liver transplant I drank 60 pints a week for many years have regular medical examinations and have no problems at all yes the alcohol companies push there drug but anti alcohol people push just as hard

The problem is same as the news we are not told the total truth we are only told what THEY want us to know

Just my feelings

Dave

[MINTVCX in reply to X19Dave]

It is true drinking everyday even small amounts it is potentially worse for liver than drinking the same amount (or even more) at once let's say twice w week. That's way I think French style of drinking wine (a glass for dinner) causes some more problems with liver there (statistically).

[Hidden in reply to X19Dave]

Hello X19Dave, Your Mrs or lady has been a very lucky invidual, like you keep mentioning about yourself....drinking 60 pints a week ......your doing that alone if its 60 pints a week? I don't wanna accuse you of anything but you said you been drinking 60 pints a week......geezer that's a issue. I've seen it been there fella. I hope your OK though.

[X19Dave in reply to Hidden]

hi mate yes wife was very lucky and so was I to be able to keep her yes 60 pints a week is a lot drank 7 nights a week and only out down the pub never drank at home but I just stopped when her liver failed and she was told drink again and it will kill you so I stopped to help and support her and I know it sounds bad but I feel no better or worse forgiving drink up I thought and hoped it would make me feel better and help me lose weight but no just the same

Dave

[Hidden in reply to X19Dave]

Hi X19dave, nothing to do with me but you need to talk your misses! I'm so used to this and it's constantly a alcohol problem...she's not got alcohol liver failure believe me....and you don't need to worry.

[X19Dave]

my wife used to be out with me drinking but nowhere near as much as me

but as I said we have both stopped due to her liver transplant I think her liver failure was hemochromatosis she had all the symptoms for it but I am not a doctor and it is very hard and costly to test for and prove either way

Dave

[Hidden]

It was a very touchy subject when I was in northern general in 2003,when my heart attack was diagnosed as been hereditary,I was 36 at the time,been fine since apart from the reason I'm here,!! But I was told by the cardiotharasic surgeon if I was to drink they said red wine because of antioxidant properties,Just goes to show how research is needed,not at all saying it is why I'm in the liver boat.!,back in the day of my mums youth 1950s,for postnatal depression she told me the GP said for her to smoke a cigarette,she never did.just goes to show.Great Info !