Just sinking in, took long enough - British Liver Trust

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Just sinking in, took long enough

Football fan, loved my beer to games, followed Scotland, and you not going for football.

Heavy drinker at times, but good job kept me online.

Bad accident,few years ago, allergic to painkillers all my life, left in total pain, told, never work. Boom right on it, 12 stella a day. Block all out.

Docs pick up on cirrhosis, very early, stop drinking now, attend alcohol unit, cant stand way they treat you, must do group stuff etc, no.

Stopped. Back on stella.

Chronic pain, mental health issues from past.

Cant handle life.

Then, felt craps in muscles, red spots all over, dry itchy patches, sleep all day, night up worried.

Check out, what that all is.

I have been so stupid, i think I am in later stages.

How bloody stupid. How daft, selfish. Several grand kids, oh ya idiot. Accident payout not till Nov, shit wife is goosed with mortgage.

Horrible feeling now.

Poured all beer in house out, but too late ya muppet.

No excuse, just wrapped up in chronic pain, panic not able to work, lost all hobbies, and most pals now

Total clown

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Aww...sending you love! You're not a clown!

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Or a muppet. No one will think that at all, far from it. Well done for calling the doc and getting this sorted πŸ™‚

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Oh Argyl. You really do need some help as will your family. First of all have you managed to stop drinking ?

You really need to be in hospital for a detox. If you are in a really bad way, which to be honest sounds as though you are, call 999. Do you have someone at home with you now who can call for you and explain your current situation? I'm not going to bombard you with a load of info. Just please get this done asap.

I wish you luck. Please stay in contact here where you will get plenty of help and support. Take care

Laura

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Argyl,

You have made a great step forward by looking for other support. Not all groups work for the individual and it’s a question of finding one that works for you.

As Laura suggests, please get medical care to stop drinking. You must do this as quickly as possible, to avoid further damage. It is possible that your hospital has alcohol counselling services.

It is difficult to start with, but eventually, hopefully you will find the many beneficial things that abstinence brings, drinking alcohol is no longer an option for you.

Best of luck with your journey ahead, please let us know how you get on.

Mark.

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Hi

I really feel for you. Please go and see you Dr asap or as Laura said. You need help now. Please let us know how you get on. Take care Lynne call 999

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Hate hospitals, been in so much after accident.

I'll call, never noticed colour of my eyes so wrapped up.

Accident, mum passed,week later closed pal anyone ever had passed. NHS mess up all treatment. A year late with operation, to late.

Cant work, downer. Cant get out much downer. Old brain injury pops up, and hospital dont say, find out by accident.

Miss out constantly on treatment, chronic pain, and top it up, ever time they forget.

These damn assessments, push you to edge. Accident payout, delayed, delayed, delayed. Short money,wife off to take care.

Chronic pain, people cant see, MH people cant understand. Top it off goosed my liver, all in self pity. Drink and 3 ODs as couldn't cope.

Not a thought, wife, kids, grandchildren. Plonker.

Yes your right, will call. And boot my own ass too.

Hard worker all my life, senior manager, reduced to this.

Kids, family, life back... arghhhh

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Just want to wish you well and I hope you find some peace of mind soon, take care and this is a good group to vent your frustrations etc.

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So Your saying keep your chin up?

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Come on Argyl. You can do this. Take the bull by the horns, take control of your life and your situation. Get rid of the booze thats the biggest problem in your life right now, everything else will seem less of an ordeal once thats gone. You will then be able to face every obsticle rationally and with a clear head and life won't feel so shit and you will feel so much better about yourself. I promise you. The alternative doesnt even bare thinking about.

Keep talking to us. We will help you every step of the way.

Laura x

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Thanks. Called Doc, he just called ambulance when told truth. And yellow eyes.

X xx

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Don't beat yourself up Argyl, what's done is passed, you can sort it and get back on track with your life and health! Good luck at the hospital. X

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Good luck, Argyl

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Well done. This is just the start of your recovery. All the very best to you and please keep us posted

L xx

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Sorry everything seems so hard at the minute. You've had some great advice and the hospital will take care of you. Hopefully this can be the turn around you need. Best wishes at the hospital & keep posting on here - this forum has been such a help to me (husband has cirrhosis) - we've got your back.

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Brilliant ! Pease reply when your able !

Take care my friend! We're always here for you

Here's a hug xxxxx

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Argyl14

Welcome to our forum. We are really pleased that the forum members are supporting you. It does sound like you need mendical assessment today and also medical support to safely stop drinking. Hoepfully you can get help today.

Please keep us posted, you are not alone

Trust1

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Argyle don’t beat yourself up so much. You can’t change the past but you can change the future. I’m sorry it all seems so hard at the moment, but you’ve taken the first steps towards ditching the alcohol. You can do this, we are all cheering you on. Always good to welcome another footie fan xx

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In hospital. Yellow drip... must be detox. Week in, then, they are trying to get space in a unit

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Great news Argyl, I'm so pleased. They really will look after you just make sure you do as your told πŸ˜‰ dont be affraid to ask questions about your treatments etc. They will welcome it.

Which hospital are you in ?

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The yellow bag is to give you vitamins, nutrients and electrolytes that you will be deficient from. Have a look up and down the ward to see others on the same drip.

I am really pleased that you have made this step and when the doctors do the ward round this morning, please ask them if they have an alcohol counselling service. If so, they are able to talk with you whilst you are on the ward. It’s another positive step in moving forward.

I wish you every success and am pleased that you have made the right decision.

Best wishes,

Mark.

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Hang on in there kiddo!

Love Trish πŸ’•

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Thanks all.

Screwed up. But time to reflect. Omg, I went through it all.

Time to move on, hope not too late.

Loads of bloods. Say stop beer, more bloods, better idea.

Get sorted, and then, back not accepting constant pain for life

And come on, truth head injury, tell me, not me find out.

Hope still early enough. But nurse said, wait. I am showing signs. But wait.

Hope do this, I have seen others years off beer, boom back on.

Good part, as I don't get out much,,easier to avoid falling off. No pals, buying pints.

New hobbies needed...

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Yes you've hit the nail on the head, new hobbies etc. You know all the answers and nows the time for change.

Hazel is absolutely right too.

Time to keep looking forward.

We are here for you Argyl.

Lots of love xx

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We'll help you with new hobbies! 😁

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You turned to drink to self medicate because it seems no one in the medical prof picked up on your mental health. Yes, some do relapse but so many members on here have not done so. You can join them That first massive step making that call is one of many.. Your in the right place and you are being offered a lifeline. Living in constant pain causes depression and alcohol is a depressant, so you have been trapped in a vicious circle. Admitting you need help is a trigger to get that help. There is only one direction to go when you hit rock bottom. You must stop punishing yourself .Post on here as often as you like, there will always be a listening ear. Stay strong . Hazelxx

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Hi Argyl, I repeat what all previous posters have said to you. The key that will unlock your future wellbeing is giving up the drink. For the first time in ages, you will have a clear head, and see your future in a much better way. I hope and pray that you kick the booze and that your poorly liver can improve once you stop poisoning it. Take care, and please keep us all up to date on your recovery. I too support Scotland, but in Rugby.

David

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A Rugby man! I like 😁😁😁

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Crikey, Trish, I thought I was the only dyslexic in the village 🀣🀣🀣, or did you mean Ruby Murray (curry) man 😁😁😁

David

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Oh shite !😣😣Rugby of course! Blummin typing error!!! ERRRR

Will amend ! Whens Anne back?.

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Hi Trish, I picked her up around midday. Β£7.50 parking for 32 minutes πŸ‘ΏπŸ‘ΏπŸ‘Ώ

Bloody ripoff. The last 3 minutes cost over a pound a minute!!!!!!

Never mind, she's home now, so I've got to be on best behavior πŸ˜₯πŸ˜₯πŸ˜₯

Davidii

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Ah lovely! Have a fab day ! Shame about the crappy parking fees !

Trish

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Thanks....rugby? Ok

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Come on Argyl ! You have just poured your whole life out to the best team of supporting people on the forum!

Scream! shout or do whatever is needed to get your brain focusing FIRST of all!

You say you were a Manager and hard worker! Well here's you first task! Get some paper and write in big letters one thing you want to achieve then pin the paper so that you can see it all the time! Do you have a photo of happier times?? If yes, then do same with this!

You must focus on wanting to feel happier first as without happiness life's a bitch and a struggle and no matter how hard financial things can get you can fight back if your asking for help!

I agree with others go and see your doc if your able! Financial issue's dont help but you can help your self with this.

I worked 7 days a week for 8 years and held down 3 jobs, looked after 2 kids and kept hold of my 4 bed house totally alone with NO financial support at all! I once ripped off the base of my sofa for 20p !!! I still laugh about that one !

I was a business women back then but had to swallow my pride and turn to other jobs to survive! I cleaned, sold potatoe's for farmers, I worked in a pub, I looked after 11 children, I car booted and did almost anything to survive and bring up two adorable children who are now both very professional and happy!

I lost my Managerial job in the 80's to a recession which was a great job! At the same time I had an alcoholic husband who died from a heart attack and cirrhosis, my best friend died from cirrhosis at the same time plus mother of cancer followed by my dad with cancer too ! I nursed all with everything else going on at the same time and they lived 50 minutes away from me and I lost my car too so it was the train which the social helped me with ! More pride to swallow!,

What I'm trying to say is we've all had shite in different ways thrown at us and survived to become a better person in life! Now blummin fight!!!!! Come on let's help you focus ! I eventually launched a sucessful construction project management company so if I can do it and cleared loads of shite DEBTS my ex left me to sort and cleared my name in court which was no fault of mine then you CAN DO IT!

I'm here for you and anyone else !

We're all here for you ! I'm not a bully I'm a sentimental loving person who wants to help YOU if you want it!'

Now get replying and let me know your going to try Day 1 with us supporting you !

Now come on ......

Love Trish xxxx

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I've updated my earlier message

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WOW Trish , what a superb and honest post. You've had a very tough time, and come through it.....Well done you πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘. I hope Argyl can emulate you, and get back on track.

After all you have been through, you still have true grit, and a brilliant sense of humourπŸ‘ŒπŸ‘ŒπŸ‘Œ. Just keep doing what your doing , we like it 😊😊😊

David

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I'm trying my best to keep focused ! Second week of new semi retirement Pet business now up and running in a small way! I now need to sort website out with references and photo's which is my next job! 😁😁😁

I'm currently ironing bedding as I type! A bit of multitasking 🀣🀣🀣

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What kind of pet business? , or did you mean the other kind of pet? used to breed & show dogs for a hobby, not a business. My photo on here is my Lakeland Terrier, Teddy. A constant joy to me, very difficult to be miserable with him around 😊😊😊

David

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I walk dogs and feed cats and pet sit now! Years ago I had a mixture of 6 dogs and 6 cats which had to be re homed when the bad times hit! That broke my heart ! Since getting back on my feet and re marrying 10 years later I rescued a Border Collie and a Fox Hound Cross plus further cats of course! 😁😁.

I retired last August from construction and the new Pet Business kicked off last week! I'm also looking into setting up a cookery class for the unfortunate! I'm booked to start night school at Shrewsbury in September ! Lol

Love Rock Chick x

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Oh, thank god, Trish,I thought I might have upset you with the Pet business question. We have a live- in dog and house sitter for Teddy, when we are on holiday, and can't take him with us. There are a lot of people here doing dog walking for people who can't. I think there's plenty of demand for your service and I wish you all the luck in the World. Cookery is my passion, so I'm with you on that.

Have fun with the ironing (something I hateπŸ‘ΏπŸ‘Ώ

Love, David

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Ah Teddy, he looks totally delightful!"I bathe gets loads of cuddles !'

So you like to cook too! Nice!

Trish

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David /lord Lou

I once had a lovely friend who knew more about me than anyone who I miss ! I loved listening to his daily moans and groans and his SOH was my life linr unfortunately he's no longer around he passed away and that life line and editing of a possible suggest book has been locked away !'My life's been far more interesting than that brief info above!! Yes I came through a load of shit which has made me who I am today!,I'm all soft bones of with a passionate for every living thing on this planet! I would NEVER hurt a living thing intentionally! Anyway the ironing is calling.

Tomorrow I'm out buying bits to start making Christmas Pine Cone Trees which Alf and his lovely wife has got me doing! 😁😁😁😁 as I'm quite arty too!

Pick up of guitar getting closer !! Lol 😁😁😁

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Thanks, we all do. What am realising, is. What pushed me, was all in a 1 year period. Accident, loosing people, money, no job, NHS messing up. And we all know the DWP stuff.

Past head injury, people not understanding.

I get it now, I let it all fall. Suppose 1 thing, ok, 2 ok, 3 mmm, 4mmmmm, then more and more.

I cracked.

Feels like 2weeks in here already. Still yellow drip. Ultrasound tomorrow.

They say, if place in rehab, it's at least 2 months. With restrictions, what restrictions, apart from booze?

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Now come on and less of these downers! I want smiles and less of these negative feelings your having. No one said it was going to be easy! You've hit rock bottom ! Bottom being the correct word here ! I would suggest you only focus on one day at a time , not weeks or months ahead but tomorrow! Its going to be a long road my friend

so you will have to be patient and rest! I know its boring lying in a hospital bed with drips , bed pans, noisey patients , rackling trollies etc!

Cope with it! Your there to get better and we're here to support you!

Now rest and sleep and no more of these negative feelings!

Speak tomorrow

Nighty nite Trish

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Hi Argyl. Good to hear from you. Trish has said it all. The only way is up now, yes you're going to have some tough bits but the outcome is going to be worth it. We are all behind you . Stay strong you will get there xxxx

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Good Morning Argy14

A new day's here and your not alone so try your best to hang on in there!

Cheers for pm.

Trish

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Now enjoy those pretty nurses and get smiling as you will feel slightly better! I used to be one many years ago 😁😁😁

Love Trish x

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You can do it Argyl 14 especially with all the support you will get from here. Everyone's great and a massive support. Take care. Onwards and upwards. Lynne

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Keep the faith mate, people on here are really nice, helped me get through my issues, just stay strong and look into the future, I have had 2 beers in five weeks, this was hard, but weaning myself away, its a hard gig at first and everything hits you, you get all the support on here and do get help...regards rob

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Hi Taylor how are you doing ?

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OK, scan on the 4th July, fireworks day, fingers crossed, the scan is for HCC something like that, I am now becoming to terms with the issues i face

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All the best to you

L x

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Hi Argyl,

This could be the best thing you have done in opening up to people on here and being honest with the doctors and nurses. Trust me. People have gone through exactly the same as you have and a lot worse. I was in hospital for 26 weeks over a year period a few years ago and you can get through anything being honest with yourself and by what you’ve said you are being.

Your somewhere now that’s the best place for you at the moment. They will give you all the support you need and more. When I first went into hospital I firstly didn’t think I needed help and didn’t want it. Then quickly realised that they care about you, not in a just giving medicine and taking bloods way but actually talking to you and listening. That sounds like what you need at the moment. Your going to be hit with tests following tests followed by more tests. It’s painful at times but you’ll soon realise that everyone only wants the best for you. After this initial part the support you can get access to is phenomenal. Some of it you’ll use some you won’t but it’s there and everyone will want you to succeed. Everyone has got your back and want you to get, I was going to say back to normal but that’s not the right way to put it, how to put it??? Be where you want to be. That’s better.

It might seem like a bit massive thing that your going through and it is, but set yourself achievable targets and try to hit them, once you have, target something else.

I could go on and on but drop me a PM if you want to chat more. We’re all here to listen and help in anyway we can. I can only speak from experience of what I went through in both Glasgow and Edinburgh royals and the expertises, care and support they provide are phenomenal.

No matter how small you might think something is, just ask.

Keep in touch and let us know how your getting on.

Will

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We are so pleased to read that you are getting medical help. Wishing you lots of luck.

Thank you to all the members who have posted support on here. What a fantastic example of the positivity of the forum.

Trust1

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Hi Argy

I'm still rooting for ya! Hopefully your able to pick this message up soon !

Love Trish x

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Hi Argyl. How are you doing now? Been thinking of you x

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Me too. Argyl sounds a really nice genuine guy. Get well soon, Argyl πŸ™‚

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As expected, sleeping loads.

Woke, bloods, woke bloods, woke pee, woke, some test, woke bloods...

But sleeping in between.

I'll get there, I hope. Its nuts I woke and thought wtf the other day. Cant mind if it was Sat, Sun. But going on here laying it out, makes you read back. Thanks

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Hi Argyl,

Just wanted to add my best wishes to the comments above. It's natural to feel angry, and natural to turn the anger on yourself, but don't overdo it. Give yourself a break. Here's an anecdote, for what it's worth. I came out of hospital at the start of March and my lovely wife had been clearing out my office/our spare bedroom. So there was an empty space in the bottom of the wardrobe where the litres of vodka used to hide. I won't say I've forgiven myself for that, but I have stopped beating myself up...

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Well done xx

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Hiding places!!

So we all did it.

I have a so called office/PC room. I know my wife will be clearing it out.

No idea many cans she will find.

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Ah that old trick eh Argyl? I found empty cider cans in the sleeves of my husband's jackets and stuffed in the bottom of his golf bag. His ex boss came across hundreds of the plastic rings which hold 6 packs together, under the seats in his works van! Yep, dreadful to think he was drink driving and a 'functioning alcoholic' at the time, working as an electrician !! Dread to think what could have happened! I had always thought he drank to much but not to the degree he was. It was too late for him sadly, but not for you. Your hiding days are over thankfully. Your problems are all in the open now and that is a massive step forward.... well done, keep it up my man 🀩 xx

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Hi Laura

I never realised what youd been through! Thanks for your kind PM message! I will message you later!

Love Trish xxx

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Naughty Argyl πŸ˜€

In all seriousness, the battle now begins. Get all the help and support you can, drugs, counselling or whatever, to keep off the booze for good this time. As a former heavy drinker who miraculously escaped any real damage, I know how that urge to drink feels and how hard and miserable it is to quit at first. The good news is it gets easier πŸ™‚

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Hi Argyl

I see you got my earlier messages! πŸ˜‡πŸ˜‡πŸ˜‡πŸ˜‡ Well I'm still here like most who are following your progress!

Hope your smiling at those lovely nurses πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ as they too have a tough time but try not to show it!

Keep in touch when your up to it and keep focused and fighting !

Love Trish x

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Hi all,

Many many thanks for all messages. It has helped more than you know.

Yes still in hospital, am sure they said 7days at least, cant mind day I came in though.

Few times, been advise, they are looking for a space in unit, I know understand that to be rehab.

Yes loads and loads of bloods, tests etc. Right now dont want to know results. Just want to concentrate on one thing, no beer, or what I mean is get it out my mind.

Rehab? What does it mean they restrict you? Guy next says no phones etc?

What is needed is needed. If it is 2months minimal, I,ll miss, youngest grandson 1st, and 2nd grandsons 3rd birthdays.

That will hurt, but I know, to see there, 10th 15th etc this needs done.

All 3 boys just listen to every story I tell them.

Thanks once again all.

Post another update when i can.

Take care all

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Great post Argyl 😊😊😊. I love your positivityπŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘. Just keep up your determination, and you will soon be back with your family, a changed Man.

David

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Thank you for keeping us posted. Keep well and look after yourself.

Trust1

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So proud of you. Well done and thankyou for taking notice of us.

Look forward to all your updates.

Big hugs lots of love

Laura xx

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Hi Argyl?

I’ve been keeping a wee eye out for you. How are you getting on?? Just remember if anyone says anything that your unsure about ask them to explain further. All the medical stuff can make your head spin so ask them to break it down so that it’s easy to understand. I would have all the dics round saying this and that and I didn’t have a clue. It’s easier to deal with if it’s explained fully not with just one term or another. After I came round in the royal, my consultant put it the best and most effective way he could.

β€œLook out that window and tell me what you see??”

Err cathedral street and people just walking about carrying out normal stuff.

β€œOk now what’s out that window?”

Glasgow cathedral and the necropolis.

β€œWell you’ve got a choice to make, stop drinking and you’ll be the person walking down the road. Have another drink and we’ll be looking out the other window, you’ll be being buried in there in 3 months.”

That was enough to focus my mind on not drinking. The guys in there will be totally honest and frank with you. You’ll get all the help and support you’ll need if you just ask for it. As just about everyone has said, your doing so well. It’s a lot to take in and will take a while for it all to sink in but it’s always for your best interests. Stay as strong as you have been thus far!! You can do this!! You know you can. Everyone will want to help In anyway they can. Just trust in yourself. You’ve got this.

Will

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Your right, chuck this, or I will be, no one like Drs need to tell me, I know, I feel it.

Thanks Will

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Hey Argyl,

Have you gotten sick of your ward yet? πŸ˜› I'm not a patient patient if you know what I mean, try to take it easy on the nurses lol, if you're anything like me! πŸ˜‰ I hope you're feeling a little better now. As far as your little grandsons in your heart β™₯️ and on your mind, surely they will miss you at the parties, but you will pop up and be there for many more, not just a face in a photograph, but their grand papa with all his lively stories! That's great πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘ for you to focus on, and keep going forward. Well done for taking the first GIANT step. Best wishes!

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Great message Boots!

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I could sense (hahaπŸ˜‰) Argyl is feeling a bit like a pincushion and just wanted him to know, rehab should have much better snacks lol πŸ˜‚

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It's nice to be able to give him additional support!

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Lol thx.

No taking em for first ever beer. Lol damn.

But years off, more cake, icecream jelly years first.xx

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No, but first ever fish caught, first ever carrot pulled, first ever shooting star, etc. Lots better than that! πŸ‘πŸ˜Š

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Hi Argyl14....Wow been reading yours and everyone elses comments..You remind me so much of my husband....So hard to watch someone battle such an addiction..He also has brain damage through an assult, he worked in an office at one stage and the dwp are giving him a hard time. Hes one day off it and then the next on it. The difference is you have had all the tests and know your diagnoses but they keep saying his liver and everything else is fine. Even though hes got the signs of cirrhosis...I wish you all the best and as you say yourself concentrate on your grand kids, they need their grandad.You can do this rehab and come out a new man...We all have faith in you to do this. Thank you for sharing your story with us...Go Argy you can do it.. Smiles...:).

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Ah Lyn, you've seen it good

Xxx

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Thanks all, oh some of comments made me laugh.

Yeh sorry no updates kinda like slept alot.

No space in rehab so far, but think am out today.

Only issue, this chronic pain, at its worst you loose it, all you think is get to $#Γ·Γ— pain, and no idea what your doing.

Not an excuse, just saying I hope I get past that, and still understand drink is not the answer.

If only i smoked joints... joking.

But aye. Feel better, results not so good, but retest in a few weeks.

And pls more jokes.

Love you all for support

And hope I do get out, old man with nappy on, every night rips it off, chucks it over curtain... minging.

πŸ˜‡πŸ˜‡

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🀣🀣 great to have you back Argyl, and thanks for your private message, you're doing well πŸ’ͺπŸ€©πŸ‘

Xx

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