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buddymac48
buddymac48

My Doctor,told me that gallstones cannot damage the liver,not sure if this is true.I Aways have high gamma readings,i dont drink,eat a healthy diet,exercise,and only slightly overweight.

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buddymac48
buddymac48
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The reason iam asking the question is because my gamma readings have been high,for over 2 years Doctors ask if i drink which i do not said he thinks it could be Nash and said if it is can take years to develope,now iam worried, and thought it might be due to gallstones that the levels ae allways high,i had a ultra sound a year ago was told the the liver looked ok put there was some fat in it .

SueKi
SueKi
in reply to buddymac48

'high blood pressure inside the liver – this is known as portal hypertension and is often a complication of alcohol-related liver disease'. Is this possibly where the question arises from as to whether you drink or not? If it's a symptom of both diseases, then the doctor needs to rule out one to ascertain why the symptom is occurring. I took this info from the NHS website.

buddymac48
buddymac48
in reply to SueKi

well i can rule out alcohol,as i never drink alcohol,all iam told,its likely to be the gallstones, as there is no pain with them no concern is shown,that the Gamma readings are high. Rightly or wrongly i give up and think what will be will be.

Phxlady
Phxlady
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Thank you for the information... I did not know that gallstones come from the liver I thought they came from the gallbladder !how interesting then why do they call it the gallbladder doesn't produce gallstones ?!

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Dbuck
Dbuck
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Is it better to go to a gastroenterologist or a hemotologist for a bile, liver, gallbladder issue?

grace111
grace111
in reply to Dbuck

i think the first thing to do is go to see your doctor who will send you for a scan if you have not had one already then i got sent to a liver specialist. i think a hematologist deals with disease of the blood, gastroenterologist deal with stomach issues i think if its to do with the liver which the gall bladder is attached to or the bile duct its then its the liver specialist.how are you? are you having any kind of pain and what makes you ask that question, hope your doing okay and not in any pain, love grace xoxoxo

alatham
alatham
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gall stones are formed in gall bladder

grace111
grace111
in reply to alatham

no they are formed in the liver. i thought that they were formed in the gallbladder because they were called gallstones. but no. infact i have met a few people in hospital with stones stuck in thier bile duct after having the gallbladder removed. please check this up for your own reference. all the best love grace xoxo

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Hidden
in reply to grace111

Gallstones are formed in the gallbladder (emedicinehealth.com/gallsto...), which is just underneath the liver - liver stones are something different (netdoctor.co.uk/ask-the-exp...)

grace111
grace111
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once the gallbladder has been removed many people still get stones and there is no gallbladder there. they'r called liver stones

Can you still get stones after having your gallbladder removed?

. Gallstones can form in the common bile duct years after the gallbladder is removed, although this is rare.

its not that rare as when i was in hospital a few times there were always people in getting stones removed from the bile duct years after gallbladder removal. also they can lie in other parts of the body not just the bile duct. they can be seen on an x ray.

Veejay555
Veejay555
in reply to grace111

NO they are formed in the gallbladder.

webmd.boots.com/digestive-d...

alatham
alatham
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gall stoned are formed in gall bladder, not in liver

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Veejay555
Veejay555
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grace111 you link tells you they are formed in the gallbladder, the other stones formed in the liver are 'liver-stones' two different things that can both cause lots of pain.

grace111
grace111
in reply to alatham

okay i got mixed up with the stones. the liver also makes stones that get stuck in the bile duct.that was the real issue.

Veejay555
Veejay555
in reply to grace111

You only posted a link you didn't say you agreed with it, the last thing you said was 'gallstones are formed in the liver'. Anyway I'm glad you have it sorted. I have just had my gallbladder and stones removed and a relative has just been taken in with liver stones found in liver duct, years after having her gallbladder/stones out.

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Veejay555
Veejay555
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Yes, I did read your post from 9 months ago, the first 7 words say's 'no they are formed in the liver'. Not sure where you are coming from when you say 'I never get any peace from you'. I only joined this group yesterday and had only written 3 posts before this, so I think you might have a screw loose somewhere. I don't need to check anything out as it is all still very much fresh in my memory and all the leaflets I have. I would calm down if I was you.

Not sure what this is about,i certainly did not write,what you think i did i would never offend anyone,lifes to short for that.

It's not you buddymac48 - there has been a miscommunication/misunderstanding between veejay and grace. Wasn't anything to do with you they were replying to each others posts in the midst of your thread. Sometimes happens on here - crossed wires and all that.

Hope you are ok. :D

Katie

Thank you i would hate to upset anyone,we all have enough to deal with, and iam always grateful for any support i have received.

Sorry buddymac48 don't think it's anything to with what you have said, grace111 seems to have gotten her knickers in a twist about nothing. Accusing me of not giving her any peace when I only joined this page a couple of days ago. I have just had my gallbladder out after quite a few complications and thought I'd come on here to see if I could get any tips about looking after myself. Anyway I will probably not post again. Look after yourself and stay healthy.

wish you well, hope all turns out ok.

grace111
grace111
in reply to Veejay555

i dont know what to agree with as some links still call them gallstones after the gallbladder has been gone for years. Can you still get gallstones after having your gallbladder removed?

Laparoscopic gallbladder surgery is safe and effective. Surgery gets rid of gallstones located in the gallbladder. It does not remove stones in the common bile duct. Gallstones can form in the common bile duct years after the gallbladder is removed, although this is rare.

so they are called gallstones in this part that i copied and pasted from another link, it says

Gallstones can form in the common bile duct years after the gallbladder is removed, although this is rare.

let this be the end of this conversation as im fed up with it.

Hidden
Hidden
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Gallstones are formed in the gallbladder (emedicinehealth.com/gallsto...), which is just underneath the liver - liver stones are something different (netdoctor.co.uk/ask-the-exp...)

romana1
romana1
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try to make your links work please

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Hidden
in reply to romana1

Both links do work - just checked them

romana1
romana1
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they are not highlighted in blue like this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galls...

Hi, I have cirhossis and a gall bladder full of stones but hepatologist said to leave alone unless they start getting angry. Like you, I don't drink. I have a meat free diet and nothing fried and drink lots of water.

Hope this reassures you a bit. My blood readings are elevated due to cirhossis.

Bestwishes

Julie

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buddymac48
buddymac48
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Thank you for your reply,very helpful,all the best and take care

alexbcyn
alexbcyn
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so ur saying i still need to wait for stone to pass bile duct before oparation.

mine currently in gall bladder & im experience small pain but it is recurring.

buddymac48
buddymac48
in reply to alexbcyn

hi not sure if this was sent to me by mistake, but sorry dont know the answer to your question.hope someone on here can help you.

buddymac48
buddymac48
in reply to jules45

what a shame, when you clearly try to look after your self

the gall badder is on outside of liver, the stones do not go toward the liver, but go out to the small gut .there are a lot of natural things to do to fix gall bladder and fatty liver. google Dr Sandra Cabot, she has sever books and some products that help and they are not that expensive. learn before you have anything taken out.

Hi, they retested my blood about a week ago and the ALT and GGT were normal this time ....they also did a CA 19-9 for the presence of tumors... and that came back OK too.... The high readings may have been due to severe dehydration... Because they gave me IV fluid that day in the hospital ... Then the cardiologist reduced the amount of diuretic that I take. And now I drink more water too...But on the ultrasound it did show a small pancreatic cyst 8 mm in size so I have to go in to have an MRI with and without contrast and they're going to follow up on that . And probably check on the gallstones too to make sure there aren't any blockages ... So far everything has come back OK and I am grateful but it does seem like my medical life is a soap opera that goes from one thing to another ... Does anybody else feel that way ?

Thank you all for being such great support !

Pat

Glad your being well looked after,

hi been told I have gallstone been and out of hospital on meds not been ale to work been told have to wait till 8th of this month to see some one and to go from there to see if I,m having op or told them I,m due to go on holiday soon and I,m so scared to eat now

buddymac48
buddymac48
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Sorry to hear you have gallstones,and having problems with them,all i know from my own G P is they don't like to take them out unless they have to,it appears to be a straight forward operation if this is whats needed.be guided by the professionals.hope all goes well.

I had a hepaticojejunostomy in 2012 due to a transected bile duct done while my gallbladder was removed 2 months prior. It was a nightmare during that time but slowly got thru it. I was lucky to have found an amazing surgeon in the Houston medical center that repaired the problem and also found that part of my liver had been damaged due to the drains and stents placed by the original surgeon that messed up my bile ducts. He removed left part of my liver and performed the hepaticojejunostomy. I am doing OK now but have to keep a low fat diet and eat small meals. Every now and then I lose track of what I eat and get myself sick. I reset my way of eating and drinking and get back on track. It's annoying to live with digestive issues and random pain but I know it could of been worse. Hope your recovery goes well and you can adjust quickly.

Hi just had a episode of yellow bile seven times then following day it changed to green then brown have had the doctor gave me anti sickness tablets and told to take pain killers been going on for a week now have settled the sickness but noticed spotting on my underwear I have pain on my right side gonna make an appointment to see doctor again .think something is afoot

Hi iam sorry that your having this trouble,i have episodes ,but dont appear to do anything unless it becomes a medical emergency.hope you have better luck than me,take care let me know how get on.

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