Anybody know of any special yoga for osteoporosis classes in Essex x/London
Yoga for osteoporosis : Anybody know of any... - Bone Health
You may be lucky and find someone who lives near you. I did find this old thread:
I looked up verite greenbee and found this site:
So I think you could contact her.
I was surprised to see an email address in the HealthUnlocked thread as these are as a general rule removed.
Yoga does help create bone mass and strengthens together with balance. I’ve just ordered a bellicon trampoline and recently purchased a marodyne liv vibration plate. I already do loads of walking as am a dog walker Also just commenced taking algaecal and strontium. So hopefully I’m now armoured to beat osteoporosis!
I know that’s why I’m looking for specialist yoga class. I’ve been reading Loren Fishman book on yoga for osteoporosis and definitely lots we shouldn’t be doing but loads in book we can and does help create bone mass and strength and balance. I’ll follow the book but it’s so annoying I pay a large gym membership and none of the yoga instructors seem to be be able to give alternative moves.
Hello, I have found the same problem with UK yoga teachers, that they are generally unaware of the restrictions around osteoporosis and yoga. I haven’t found what I consider to be a good one in this respect. I have been following Loren Fishman’s method on my own for a few years and have been in contact with him. He is running some free webinars at the moment with YogaU at the moment, and was going to investigate whether any of his classes could be live-streamed (although they tend to be in the middle of the night uk time). Unfortunately there are no Fishman certified teachers in the uk and I have more than once suggested to yoga centres that someone goes over to do his training. Apart from apparently strengthening bones, yoga is good for core strength to support the back. It also seems to have helped with incipient arthritis in my hip and possibly knee - he has done a book on yoga and arthritis too. I did some research on therapeutic yoga teachers and found a couple in London who deal with physical issues - I will have a look for their names when I get to my computer - I never had time to follow them up. Hopefully someone else will come up with a teacher too!
Yoga if incorrectly practised can indeed cause injury to joints and ligaments, which is why it is important to find a well trained teacher. Iyengar is supposed to be the most precise and careful form, but the issue is finding one who understands osteoporosis. I have a book on how to protect knees and hips in yoga, as well as the Loren Fishman Yoga for Osteoporosis and Margaret Martin’s Yoga for Better Bones. Both are good on safety. However if you prefer Pilates anyway I am sure it is just as good, and of course also has some safety restrictions for osteoporosis.
I contacted ROS and asked if they had any info on instructors who did op pilates and yoga and they could not give me any leads or help. I have looked for instructors and apparently they have to have a "bone health certificate" to give instruction to anyone with op, unless of course you don't tell me that you have op. I rang a few pilates instructors, because I couldn't find any yoga instructors with, and some of the, although they had this certificate didn't know what exercises I could or couldn't do. The only instructors I could find were physiotherapists who were confident enough to give instruction to anyone with op. I should have added that unless it is a physio, most instructors will need a permission letter from your gp, I would love to find a class that is geared up for those of us with op, but have found I just have to do my own exercises that I have found on-line and from Margaret Martin's books.
Right so upon asking the Royal Osteoporosis Society as to whether they know of any osteoporosis trained yoga teachers in England the answer was “no - but does there need to be specifically trained yoga teachers for osteoporosis “. My answer to that was surely you know there should be because of all the dangers moves...... she told me to look at their fact sheets which will tell me what we shouldn’t be doing. I said I already know all that from Loren Fishman books but just wanted details of any specialist classes. Then of course I was just told no. Helpful
The RoS is funded in part by pharmaceutical companies among other organisations - see their financial accounts from 2017: theros.org.uk/media/99989/n...
I don't understand why physiotherapists are not doing classes geared for those of us with op, why there are no personal trainers or pilates instructors who have "Bone Health Certificates" but don't know what exercises you should or should do if you have op. I think physical therapists in some other countries are more forward thinking, enterprising and better educated about what kind of physical exercise those of us with op need.
Can only speak from my own experience from trying to find a class, personal trainer/ fitness instructor who was able to instruct anyone with op. I think you could join any mainstream fitness class but you would personally have to know what you should or shouldn't do if the instructor cannot modify the exercises for you. I would think any instructor would have to have a degree in fitness science or physiotherapy for insurance purposes - as the "Bone Health Certificates" that some pilates instructors have doesn't seem to cover, from what I have been told by pilates instructors, unless they are physiotherapists, what you should or should not do if you have op, depending on how severe your op is.
When I was first diagnosed with op I didn't know what exercises I shouldn't do. After trying and failing to find a 1-2-1 pt\or a class with an instructor who had a "bone health certificate" for op I had to see physiotherapists The last newsletter I rec'd from ROS was still showing in their exercises side bends and the cat/cow position which means you are rounding your back - a big no no for anyone with op.
IMO if you have op you need a class that offers a warm-up, aerobics\cardio vascular, weights, resistance bands, balancing and stretching. Unfortunately no type of class like this exists where I live in the UK and so I have had to make up my own exercise programme.
Sorry about the delay in getting back to you on this. The type of yoga you are looking for is remedial yoga and below are some centres in London that offer it. As said, I didn't have time to check them out, but intend to try at some point.
Sorry re delay in replying. These are just specialists in remedial yoga who use it as a form of physiotherapy. None of them specify OP but my assumption would be that they will be more likely to understand the physical limitations of conditions given the lists that some of them include and would be able to adapt. I think one of them does one to ones. BTW re the comment below re positions, Fishman says that he has never seen an injury caused by twists (reiterated in his recent videos on Yoga U) and has gentle forms of them in his book. I have been doing them since I was diagnosed. I think it depends on the form your OP takes. But read his book before trying them. Margaret Martin In Yoga for Better Bones also gives advice on them. Her ‘how not to’ pix in general are helpful, although the advice on twists is just verbal. The position I never use is forward bends. But caution caution caution! And good luck!
This depends on what you want out of your yoga class. If you are planning on practising yoga for pain relief, some teachers offer a 12 week course to relieve lower back pain. This initiative is not nationwide yet but there is a teacher operating in the Leigh on Sea area in Essex. ( yogaforbacks.co.uk lists all the teachers.) I had 5 lumbar fractures in 2015 and it was some time (two years +) before I could even consider something like this. However, when I did, it changed my life - pain was greatly reduced and I regained mobility and flexibility beyond my expectations. It was also very therapeutic and helped calm me and made me feel less depressed. It's not a quick fix and you do need to practise daily for best results. It's not designed with just osteoporosis in mind, so you still have to be aware of your own limitations and take care with some postures and stretches.
My teacher for Yoga for Backs (a yoga therapist) tried to set up a follow on, gentle yoga class but attendance was poor and it only lasted just over a year. Last autumn I googled 'yoga therapists' in my local area and emailed all of them, explaining my situation and the limitations I still have that make going to a conventional yoga class difficult (I'm slow to get up and down, need a chair sometimes for support, I have problems with forward bends and twists ...) Some teachers ignored my email but I also had some really lovely replies. One lady was sure she could have helped me but had no vacancies at that time. She actually recommended another class to me and that is where I am going now. It is a class of mixed abilities and there are plenty of aids (additional mats, blocks, bolsters, blankets) to use for help or comfort.
My advice is to do your homework. Tell prospective teachers truthfully what you can and can't do and what you want to get out of your class. I want to continue to work on my mobility and flexibility and the other, less tangible benefits that yoga practice brings. I am still improving and am finally starting to feel comfortable in my body again.
I hope this is helpful.