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Am on high dose am experiencing tiredness soreness and pain in bones. Has anyone had this.

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HeronNS

Have you had your Vitamin D level checked? If you have been put on a high dose because you had a low reading I hope the doctor is checking that things are proceeding as they should.

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Twistandshout in reply to HeronNS

Will be checked in three months. Hope things will have settled down by then

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LynneH-19

I’m presently taking 5,000 IU of D3 because my blood level fell during the summer, as I became laxed about taking them, assuming I would make it from the sun. I’ve never had problems from taking D3.

Are you on any other OP medication? I took Alendronic acid for 10 weeks and this caused bone pains.

Hope you will soon be feeling better.

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Twistandshout in reply to LynneH-19

Thank you. Only on calcium and k2.

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LynneH-19 in reply to Twistandshout

Hi Twist and shout. Magnesium is also very important, and not quite so easy to get from food. I aim for a rough ratio of 2 Ca to 1 Mg.

I buy it from high street, Holland and Barrett for convenience. I usually take 300mg or 450mg of Mg glycinate (150mg per tablet) depending on my Ca intake and my routine for that day. The rest would be from diet. They don’t upset my guts how Mg oxide does.

See ‘Vitamin K2 and the Ca Paradox’ by Kate Rheaume Bleue.

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HeronNS in reply to LynneH-19

Actually magnesium is to plants what iron is to animals (something to do with chlorophyll) so we get it from leafy greens, legumes and lots of other plants, as well as some animal sources.

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LynneH-19 in reply to HeronNS

Hi Heron. Yes I agree Mg is present in these, but not necessarily in large enough quantities. Forexample per 100 g of the following contain: broccoli 20 mg, Brussels sprouts 20mg, chick peas 28mg, baked beans 30mg, water cress 38mg, curly kale 8 mg the highest I can find is raw spinach at 54 mg. unfortunately the latter is so high in oxalic acid that it probably would be chelated as is its Ca and Fe. So not readily available, if cooked it would be far less. Some nuts are high in Mg, but again Like spinach, I don’t know how available it actually is.

I tend to eat each individual veg potion, of up to 150g per veg so I would find it difficult to reach anywhere near 600mg a day, without including a Mg supplement, especially if I want my 2 to 1 Ca to Mg ratio.

I totally agree that it’s better getting our nutrients from food and although I grow a limited amount in my garden, I am constantly competing with the slugs etc.

I find in my area of the U.K., that both finding and been able to afford organically grown veg and fruit can be difficult.

Last week I paid £1.20 for a small head of ‘organic’ broccoli from Sainsbury’s. The ‘other’ broccoli was 45p for a similar size head. No proof that the £1.20 one was organic and hadn’t been sprayed to kill all the pests that I have problems with.

I don’t know what the solution is.

Best wishes

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HeronNS in reply to LynneH-19

I try to top up my magnesium by a soak in a bath with Epsom salts. Relaxing, helps my not inconsiderable aches and pains, and avoids having to put another pill into my gut. My calcium supplement does contain magnesium in an effort to help maintain the balance between those two minerals.

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Justme13 in reply to LynneH-19

Hi

Did you know that broccoli is not one of the ‘dirty dozen’? I.e. it is not heavily sprayed with pesticides etc. I did a nutrition course run by a dietician as I had cancer and also did a lot of research. There is also a ‘clean 15’. Some fruit and veg are ok to go non organic, and some are preferable organic. I have very little money, so it is difficult for me, but I do my best. I couldn’t afford 100% organic.

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LynneH-19 in reply to Justme13

Hi Justme No, I didn’t know that broccoli wasn’t sprayed. Thanks for telling me. Best wishes.

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Twistandshout in reply to Justme13

I too have had cancer and am careful what I eat. Can you please tell me the other non sprayed veg

Thank you

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Justme13 in reply to Twistandshout

Hi Twistandshout

Will check this and post later.

Just logging off!

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1965Katy in reply to Justme13

Hi

That's very interesting about the broccoli. I have been buying organic but am living on a very low income so I would love to know which vegetables are ok to buy non organic. You mentioned the 'dirty dozen' and the 'clean 15'. Would you be able to let me know what the 'clean 15' are?

Many thanks

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HeronNS in reply to 1965Katy

I think the general advice is if organic foods are not available for any reason (including price) buying local produce is the next best thing. I know food insecurity is a thing in many parts of North America for example - no good supermarkets in neighbourhoods, no access to a farmers' market. But if you can manage to buy vegetables directly from the farmer that can be the best thing. second best is from a market/store which stocks local produce. You need less food if it's more flavourful and nourishing, so that can be considered when adding up total costs. Some of the traditional greens and other foods which we've got out of the habit of eating are among the most nourishing - kale, for example seems to be the new best thing and I can buy an enormous bunch which makes salads for a week for two of us for less than the price of a litre of milk, or even a loaf of bread these days, just as one example.

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Twistandshout in reply to LynneH-19

Thank you will look this up

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Twistandshout in reply to LynneH-19

Thank will look into kate bleue

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Mileydog

In the ' vitamin D protocol' it says that high doses may cause bone pain and that we should persevere , I suggest that you read it, it is very interesting .

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Kaarina

Perhaps you are getting these side effects as a result from taking too much Vitamin D .....

How long ago have you been prescribed this large dose of Vitamin D? You say you will be checked in three months time.

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HeronNS

Here's an interesting article about effects of too little or too much Vitamin D

healthline.com/nutrition/vi...

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