Heart / kidney/liver

[Fynndog]

Had HA sept 2020. During my stay a nurse told me she had been in the renal unit and was doing Cardiac. She wanted to keep her options open. “Anyway most renal patients land up in Cardiac or vice versa” . At the time I just listened and didn’t think ti much about her words but lately they have come back to haunt me.

Are heart meds so damaging that we will land up with ruined Liver/ kidneys.??

[Chappychap]

Absolutely not!

Her comment was driven by the fact that, for a lot of patients, it's the same root causes that drive both complaints. It's also why serious life style changes are often a critical companion to your medication, because that's what will really get to these underlying causes.

Stop taking you heart medication and you'll end up some where far worse than a renal ward, you'll end up in the morgue.

[MJOR1981]

It’s a good point Fynndog, something that should be looked at..

Been in a few chats on here with people who are experiencing liver problems and they do seem to line up with meds they have been taking at the time (myself included with statin).

But not taking meds is not an option, they do too many good things and the specialists know it’s a balancing act a lot of the time.. it’s better to raise it with your GP and just stick at it I think.. I certainly won’t be getting mugged off with high function results, I will be asking questions about other drugs and side effects.. it seems people on here have had success so it can be done.

Another point just to be a bit naughty.. I know a doctor (played football with), he told me for a cardiologist it’s all about keeping that muscle going and other organs take a back seat.. and your liver / kidneys will take a lot longer to damage so the sacrifice is the logical thing to do.. I say this tongue in cheek as all health care professionals would always do the best they can, and the NHS are amazing at what they do!!

I’m certainly only still here because of them 🙌

[gilreid1]

Definitely not !!!! If that was the case a lot of us on here would not be reading or answering heart related questions. I think she was talking about her own career or taking some sort of crazy drugs

Gil

[Fynndog]

Thanks everyone for your messages. These comments said so flippantly can really do your head in sometimes. It’s nuce to be able to air them here and get your common sense answers.

[84green in reply to Fynndog]

An insensitive and inappropriate comment. Although I'm sure she didn't mean to cause any anxiety, I think its should be anyone is hospital recovering from a heart attack is going to feel vulnerable and will react badly to a statement like that.

Having heart disease does increase risk of chronic kidney disease (CKD) and vice versa. However, this doesn't make it inevitable. The majority of users on this form have a heart condition, but I doubt that a majority have CKD. Some do and manage both conditions.

I think that, for a small minority of people, statins can affect liver function which is why blood tests are important soon after you start taking them. If it does happen and is identified, any damage to the liver is reversible in most cases.

Lifestyle, early diagnosis, medication and surgery can all help avoid progression. Try and focus on all the positive things you can do rather than this unhelpful and incorrect generalisation.