is anyone willing to discus the elephant in the room, namely the increase in heart issues since the introduction of the Covid 19 MRNA injections?
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is this a properly funded research program whose results you are quoting?
I think COVID was just raising a question rather than quoting specific research. That said, it is a valid topic to look into, ideally through well-conducted, peer-reviewed studies. There’s been a lot of chatter both ways, so it’d be good to see clearer data and discussion without things getting too polarized.
HappyRosie's question is valid. I would like to see these sort of claims backed by stats and evidence - then I will listen to the claims.
The question in the post is whether we're willing to discuss "the increase in heart issues", not whether there's been such an increase. Where's the evidence?
there may be clearer data around. However, the BHF does state on its website that covid infection itself can cause cardiovascular problems
I have had heart issues since and so has my next door neighbour
And your point is? I had a puncture and so did my neighbour, both caused by Asian hornets.
Yes I have had heart issues since too
Thank you ☺️
Sorry to hear about your heart issues - have medical investigations revealed a definitive cause for these?
Why the injections and not the actual infection? I'd be more inclined to "blame" the Covid infection I got multiple times than the 2 vaccinations I had for my HA at 57. Or maybe I should just accept the fact that as a smoker I was to blame.
I work in care, I witnessed the devastating effects of Covid far too many times and the miraculous effect of the vaccinations.
Why don't you blame chem trails....
Perhaps it's more to do with being locked up in our rooms and the lack of outdoor activities thats's the real cause, rather than the actual covid jabs?
But you could go out. You weren't locked in your room. You could go for a run, you could do your shopping. You coukd walk in the park. You just couldn't do contact sports or go on holiday.
I realise that my post is anecdotal. COVID certainly adversely affected my healthabd I have been very angry about that but I can't do anything about it. I have got to the point when I'm just getting on with life and doing the best I can.
Or people have had heart issues without knowing until now
As a person says below a good scientific evidence based research which I’m sure has been done. It is acknowledged that a small number can experience brief Myocarditis with Covid injection. They would also need to establish all of the various heart problems/disease and when the problems would have commenced and some brought to the fore by the virus.
No.
Deaths and damage covered up 😡
I’m not sure about ‘covered up’ but heart disease is very complex and it can be difficult to separate out the myriad of potential causes. Many people who suffer heart problems aren’t aware of them until they become apparent - and then medical investigations often reveal the cause(s).
😂 Very apt name.
Absolute nonsense. Please provide 1 source to back up your ridiculous claim.
I don't see any elephants. What huge rise?
No, not without evidence. If someone said increase in heart issues was due to population increase and ageing or higher diagnosis, I would believe that,
Hi, yes I had the full lot of covid injections, I live in a road of 7 houses and three of us were diagnosed with a blood cancer, blood cancers have definitely risen since the injections, no doubt about that. I was also diagnosed with heart failure all in the space of less than 2 years, I was never ill before this hardly a sniffle. I truly believe that there has to be a correlation . I have spoken to too many people who lives have been changed since the 'injections'. Yes I am sure they saved lots of lives too, but we cannot ignore the facts.
"This is a space for peer to peer and emotional support, specifically relating to heart conditions." So your post does not belong here
I do have a HEART condition,the point I was making is for me I had a double whammy and I am entitled to my view and opinion. Thankyou
I caught COVID then had a heart attack and CKD never prior to COVID, I still say that was a massive contribution!
I do believe that catching covid played some part in my HA. I was so fit, size 10/12, working flat out and looking after my horse etc.
Both Covid itself and also Covid vaccinations. British Heart Foundation have a lot of information on this. Definitely caused my issues...non smoker, non drinker, regular exercise and fitness, good BMI etc etc .....then Covid 19 ...
This is a forum for support around health issues and discussion on this issue has no place here. Plenty of space elsewhere on the internet where you can discuss this. Hopefully the thread will be closed.
Yes Kev3D, I'm willing to discuss...
"the elephant in the room" Definition - a major problem or controversial issue which is obviously present but is avoided as a subject for discussion.
You have all your work ahead of you to provide the necessary evidence to show this is 'obviously present' as a 'major problem'. I'm genuinely curious to know how you reached this conclusion? Please show me elephant!
'This happened to me, I know someone" etc etc doesn't count as evidence. It's anecdotal.
Do you have a source or references or research or anything at all to support your assertion regarding your claimed link between 'heart issues' and Covid 19 injections? Evidence please.
Would love to discuss but you haven't brought anything to the party! 😀
I totally agree with you. Maybe you could contact the politicians tell them to stop blaming Covid. 😉
I'm a bit busy searching for that bloody elephant!😂
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Yes i had the 3 covid jabs where i live in Greece demands .was very unwell after all of them .next I know im visiting an endo crinologist for thyroid issues and a Cardiologist that admitted me to hospital that day. I eat a heart healthy diet no overprocessed foods no red meat only chicken and fish lots fruit veg .a little wine but not every day and have never smoked.my step count is ave 11000. So you can imagine Iwas puzzled ended ip mainland greece Hospital had stent fitted..
No for me I have heard enough already on this topic I am sure others will engage though.
Hi, I think a good place to begin a discussion might be to define exactly what you're concerned about and then to include some links to supporting evidence.
My own symptoms are the source of much anxiety to me and I can readily see how others may be in the same boat - often a good to start is a study or paper that summarises the situation one finds oneself in.
For those asking for studies, I doubt they would ever be done. If a study was commissioned to determine if mRNA technology poses elevated cardiac risks, who is going to fund it?
It won't be the companies who have pinned their financial futures on mRNA technology being the go-to fix for all manner of ailments.
It won't be the governments whose politicians told us time and time again that it is safe and effective, prevents transmission, death and hospitalisation.
Hi I had a out of hospital cardiac arrest no heart problems before had a angiogram no blockage but a week before I had a COVID injection thought nothing about it untill a month later when I was ill and phoned a ambulance. Explained about the cardiac arrest I had and the paramedics ask if before the cardiac arrest I had a COVID injection.makes you wonder.
Hi all,
People need support for many issues relating to heart health. Worrying why they have become ill is a real worry and people need support and discussion. Rubbishing people's thoughts is not helpful for anyone.
Maybe try and be a bit more open minded about this. No one yet has enough studies and research to back up and claims. And often the studies and research are funded by the large pharma companies, so are questionable to say the least. This is the biggest business in the world, they do not want it to be undermined in any way.
The government are giving out covid Payment for those severly affected by the Jabs. So there is certainly something up. The payment is surely an admission of that.
I've been under 2 top UK hospitals studying what has caused my CDM. The top cardiologists I'm seeing have all agreed there is big increase in heart health issues since covid! They are also unsure of whether it is the infection from the Jabs or the infection itself.
I am currently having some large genetic testing done and various other tests to rule in/out what may have caused my illness. I will work with the doctors until we find the cause, if we ever do.
I do know for a fact that a month before I had any Jabs, I had no heart issue's as I had scans, ecgs, US doplar scan and no other health issues. I can't say what caused my issues yet, but I have to strongly consider that the Jabs could well be a cause.
Does anyone have any evidence to back up that the Jabs don't cause illness in some people, as the government seem to admit it??
I think a good place for anyone seriously interested in trying to find answers to the questions is to watch some of the YouTube videos by Dr John Campbell. He has a very dry questioning style but uses facts he has found studying data and raises legitimate questions. Whatever your viewpoint, and I would like to congratulate the moderators for keeping this post open, they are worth watching. As adults on this forum, it is good to be able to discuss heart related issues that could affect us, we are then free to make our own minds up with material available to allow us to give informed consent in the future, or to respectfully decline future offers.
dec17th 2022 Covid test positive. Jan 5th 2023 in hospital with heart failure 20% ejection fraction. Drs and consultants would not pass comment! Previously had permanent AF.
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