Corona Virus Medication to Take

[Prada47]

Hi

I think this maybe is a question for a BHF Cardiac Nurse

Should you be unfortunate to catch this virus I was wondering about the advice to take Paracetamol or Ibuprofen

My questions are how safe is it to take Paracetamol say 2 every 4 hours and at what Strength ??

I think I am on a pretty standard cocktail of Bisoprolol, Aspirin, Pravastatin, Eplerenone, Entresto and Omeprazole

Just wondering is Paracetamol / Ibuprofenl the best Medications available for patients on a cocktail of Heart Meds.

Just like to stress I am pretty comfortable with my position after having By pass surgery/Stents and currently Moderate/Severe Heart Failure. Just looking at precautions should I be unfortunate to catch this Virus as I do want to stay away from Hospital.

Regards

Just noticed the pinned post from the BHF sorry

[Frenchbulldogsx]

I've had a cold for over a week, and took paracetamol 4x a day. I know that ibuprofen is to be avoided on my meds.

[MichaelJH Heart Star]

Note: In line with Helen's post earlier today we should not really grow this thread but I wanted to sound a note of caution.

Obviously the best thing is to seek medical advice. Paracetamol is a good starting point but Ibuprofen/Naproxen are a no-no for most hearties. Aspirin is good for fever but should be avoided by anyone on a stronger blood thinner/anticoagulant than a 75mg Aspirin but caution should be exercised.

[Prada47 in reply to MichaelJH]

Hi Michael

I was seeking medical advice which I feel a lot of us using Health Unlocked would find useful !!! The NHS has raised the Level to 4 the Highest Emergency Level, so this has just moved up a gear.

What I was looking for from Heart Experts is what would be the maximum dose in mg of Paracetamol for someone with Heart Failure.

I would hate to be cured of the Virus (should I catch it ) and find I had wrecked my Heart further through Paracetamol. I have looked through the information leaflet for Paracetamol and it doesn't tell you much !!

I was conscious of Helens comment when I posted my questions, I think I am safer on my keyboard than down the Chemists at this moment in time hence my post.

I am treating this as I treat a snowy winter " If I don't need to go out I won't "

Regards

[hf54 in reply to Prada47]

I have heart failure and take paracetamol you will not “ wreck your heart “

[Prada47 in reply to hf54]

Hi hf54

Out of curiosity what dose and frequency do you take Paracetamol?? and do you take it consistently over say a week to cure an illness ??

Or is it just an occasional pain killer ?? That really is my question that I was looking for an answer to.

Just like to stress once again I am not Paranoid over this and I am quite relaxed, just trying to take sensible precautions should the unexpected arrive.

Regards

[hf54 in reply to Prada47]

Are usually take to just for symptomatic relief. When you have heart Failure of course nothing works perfectly in your body because the “pump“ isn’t working properly this means various aches and pains and stomach aches are far more pronounced and frequent. This may change later as the medication increases. What are the three medicines i use Bisoporol rampiril and furosemide for heart failure without any other pre-existing medical conditions I am fairly certain they are safe to use and have done so myself for months.

[Prada47 in reply to hf54]

Hi hf54

I take Entresto Eplenerone Aspirin Statin and Omneprazole and a 7.5mg Bisoproplol Thanks for coming back to me . My Heart Failure moves from Moderate to Severe it seems to depend on how it's pumping for the Echo or MRI !!!

Regards

[shellarc in reply to Prada47]

If you were seeking medical advice I would speak to a qualified person such as your doctor or pharmacist.

[Maisie2014]

Definitely not Ibuprofen

[Heythrop51]

As I understand it the biggest risk with Paracetamol is if you drink alcohol with it as the combination can cause liver damage. Throw in a statin and it sounds quite dangerous.

[NotAllWhoWonder]

Ibuprofen should be avoided if you have a borked heart and are on meds. It has the opposite effect of what you're trying to achieve, i.e. unconstricted blood vessels. BHF has an article on studies linking ibuprofen to increased heart attack risk.

[Prada47 in reply to NotAllWhoWonder]

Thank you

That's the kind of information I was looking for. Just it was on TV take Ibuprofen or Paracetamol. I was looking for a good option rather than those 2.

Regards

Glad to see we can have a sensible discussion on this !!

[Glasgowgirl1947]

Regarding Coronavirus there's a post going on FB that you should drink a lot of water keep well hydrated as this will wash the virus into your stomach where acids will deal with it??? Does anyone know if this is true?

[Milkfairy Heart Star in reply to Glasgowgirl1947]

Er no.....

I suggest you rely on the information provided by the NHS and Department if Health.

The website is continously updated

england.nhs.uk/ourwork/eprr...

Wash your hands frequently for at least 20 seconds

Sneeze into a tissue, throw the tissue away and wash you hands

Sneeze into the crook of your arm if you have no tissue

Avoid touching your face, eyes, mouth and nose

Face masks are ineffective and best left to be used by Healthcare professionals

[Glasgowgirl1947 in reply to Milkfairy]

Of course I'm relying on the NHS advice. I wrote this with my tongue firmly in my cheek but wonder how many people will take this advice, at least they will keep hydrated!

[MichaelJH Heart Star in reply to Glasgowgirl1947]

If you pop some scotch in the water it will have antiseptic properties. Although it will not protect you more you will feel happier! 🤣🤣🤣

[Milkfairy Heart Star in reply to Glasgowgirl1947]

We need a tongue in cheek emoji 😂

[MichaelJH Heart Star in reply to Milkfairy]

An expert on the radio said you should wash your hands to Happy Birthday

youtu.be/AY5n7_tazHk(Not working as expected?)

[MichaelJH Heart Star in reply to Glasgowgirl1947]

Some clown is now saying that it cannot be transferred by brass door handles as brass is acidic! If you believe that you shouldn't be let out alone!

[Dobbin69]

it’s all a minefield..i take bisoprolol and an anticoagulant for afib. Yes drippy nose and cold feet , sometimes insomnia and odd dreams but not unpleasant. Suffer from arthritis and have had to stop taking naproxen and nsaids. So feel like “metal mickey” a lot of the time struggling to move. Pain killers don’t really help so i pop the odd Flarin which supposedly is easier on the gut. So far so good it works for me and i’m prepared to take a risk. Like many of you I feel a bit breathless sometimes on bisoprolol and wonder if and when Covid 19 visits,invades my lungs and tries to drown me whether i should cut my dose.