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Welcome to the Hearty Bar and Cafe. This virtual venue is open 24 X 7. Drop in to enjoy a coffee or something stronger. Snacks are available (but only healthy ones). However, if you bring in virtual fish 'n' chips you will not get into trouble. Well behaved dogs, and cats, are allowed.

Chat about anything you want that may be too off-topic or left-field for the general forum.

I have just had a couple of oatcakes with smoked salmon, and cucumber and tomato slices. Now for a large, single shot, Americano to wash it down.

See you soon...

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Lezzers profile image
Lezzers

I’m baking a loaf of bread which I intend to have with some olives 😊

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Sunnie2day in reply toLezzers

Ooooh, olives - I remember those! So high in sodium I can have one only and since that's not possible (seriously, who can eat just one!) I try to not think about them. I miss them so much!

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Lezzers in reply toSunnie2day

I love olives and yes very high in salt. I Iimit myself to 5/6 & justify it by telling myself I have low BP and we don't use salt for a anything else, though I've just used it for the bread! 😂

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Sunnie2day in reply toLezzers

Will power, you definitely have it! I know myself too well - pop open the container and there is no way I can stop until every last one is in me instead of the container.

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cowparsley in reply toLezzers

Didn`t know olives were bad guys.Love `em but like you,low bp and never use salt in cooking so I`m allowed and I`m afraid I don`t have your will power!!

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Shoshov in reply toSunnie2day

oh i can’t eat olives. suppose it’s a good thing if they’re not heart friendly ❤️

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Mirador19 in reply toSunnie2day

I didn’t realise they were bad either, haven’t had any since moving back from Spain, just as well by the sounds of it😕

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WGM1 in reply toLezzers

Surprised by all the comments. I thought olives were good! I eat 1000s of them! 😬

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Sunnie2day in reply toWGM1

I used to, I wasn't kidding when I said I would eat the entire container (and the bigger the better). Olives were my nibble of choice and if I had a nice extra-extra mature chunk of cheddar I was very very happy! I used to pack that combination as my work lunch thinking I was having a sensible healthy mid-day meal.

Then I developed recurrent pericarditis and was told too much sodium/salt was causing my damaged pericardium to retain fluid (which leads to constrictive pericarditis and a blue-light ride resulting in an emergency pericardiocentesis - been there-done that and they don't give a tee-shirt, they give a hospital bracelet).

If I keep the sodium/salt to a daily maximum of 1500-1600mg/3-4g, I do well. I can 'indulge' on occasion but if my intake rises to 5+ for too many days I find myself back in A&E. I can still get away with a bit of cheddar but olives have to be completely off my menu for the rest of my life.

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Sillyfroggy

Sunday roast in the oven here. Making a low fat tarte tatin aux pommes. Will allow myself a sliver and the family will gobble the rest.

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply toSillyfroggy

Sounds far better than the frozen apple pie in the offer! 😀 I could be tempted by a small piece as haven't much appetite!

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Shoshov in reply toSillyfroggy

yum yum

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cowparsley in reply toSillyfroggy

Oh,so envious.Goodness knows what I`ll dig out from the freezer.

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WGM1 in reply toSillyfroggy

BHF recipe for a healthy apple pie.

bhf.org.uk/informationsuppo...

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Mirador19 in reply toWGM1

just checked that out, sounds delicious.

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Just back from a swim and the gym

Spinach, smoked salmon and poached egg on toast for lunch washed down with a cup of tea for me.

Now going for a snooze

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Mirador19

Sounds perfect, I’ve just had a Sunday roast and a small rice pudding for a birthday treat. Enjoy your Sunday everyone.

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Calliope153 in reply toMirador19

Happy Birthday!

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Mirador19 in reply toCalliope153

Thank you.

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Lezzers in reply toMirador19

Happy birthday, I hope you enjoyed your treat.

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Mirador19 in reply toLezzers

The beef was so tender and tasty so yes it was a real treat. Thank you.

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply toMirador19

Excellent! We had a family birthday lunch last week at a carvery. I was looking forward to it but the beef was overcooked and tough! Will not be going back!

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cowparsley in reply toMirador19

You`re all making me so jealous now.Cooking for one is such a bore but Happy Birthday anyway.I`m sure you deserve a treat.

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Calliope153

I've just made heart healthy batches of apple, blueberry, apple and cinnamon muffins. They will be residing in the freezer when they cool down in bags of 4 - I used to freeze in 6s but discovered i was so weak willed once the bag was opened.....

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Mirador19 in reply toCalliope153

They sound delicious.

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Calliope153 in reply toMirador19

Will send you recipe if you would like as a private message. No creaming required, just stirring so quick it is ridiculous.

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Mirador19 in reply toCalliope153

That would be great, I think the recipe is going to be popular. Thank you .

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply toCalliope153

Ooh I'd like the recipe too please.

I put the dried fruit for the Christmas cake to soak in brandy yesterday.

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Subo21 in reply toCalliope153

Would you mind sharing the recipe with me too please. I really miss my cakes and biscuits and anything healthy in this line helps me to feel I am not being deprived 😊

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Lezzers in reply toCalliope153

Would you mind sharing the recipe?

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SpiritoftheFloyd

I've had a busy day - up at 7.00 (went to bed on BST and got up to it, so 8.00 by my body clock). Went out for a paper, finished painting the living room ceiling I'd started yesterday, watched the Wales v South Africa rugby game. Did 30 on my treadmill. had a bite to eat then went out for a walk - lovely day dry sunny bit on the cool side.

My meal today is going to be a very lean joint of beef with some veg, haven't had any beef since my HA last December and thought that as a treat I'd have a roast dinner for a once in a while change!

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Mirador19 in reply toSpiritoftheFloyd

That sounds great, I had roast beef today as a treat it was gorgeous. I don’t buy beef for home we live on chicken and fish and of course veg. It makes it all the more special when you do have it.

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SpiritoftheFloyd in reply toMirador19

Yes I live on chicken and fish these days, been promising myself a roast dinner for a while, have been resisting during the nicer weather but a roast dinner really is the feel good food for the autumn/winter time

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Calliope153 in reply toSpiritoftheFloyd

we live on chicken, fish and turkey - no idea what we will do about Christmas dinner as turkey no longer a treat!

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Lezzers in reply toCalliope153

We live on fish & rice and leave Turkey for Christmas and Easter.

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Lezzers in reply toLezzers

I meant chicken & fish, don't know why I wrote rice previously, although I really do like brown rice

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SpiritoftheFloyd in reply toCalliope153

I've rationed turkey for that reason. I did start eating it quite a bit earlier this year then took it off the menu otherwise Christmas would be difficult. I suspect that it's only people with a heart condition that eat turkey outside the Christmas period.

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Calliope153 in reply toSpiritoftheFloyd

of course the other way to look at it is that every time you eat turkey it's a special meal (at least that's what I tell my husband and he;s falling for it so far....)

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Sunnie2day in reply toCalliope153

Mine as well. Does mean Christmas Lunch menus are a bit difficult but I've solved that - now we have huge stuffed pork medallions, he's come to think of that as a special meal as owing to both our health problems pork is not a regular menu item at our house.

Maybe next time you could yomp in full rad haz & Gasmark, especially if you started running aswell that would put the cat amongst the pigeons 😅

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Mirador19

Cake sounds good but I’m afraid I don’t have any 😕

Shoshov profile image
Shoshov

home made minestrone for me washed down with a nice cuppa and a shared fruit tart. heaven❤️

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply toShoshov

In the summer I like home made Gazpacho! Refreshing and yummy!

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply toMichaelJH

I love Gazpacho nothing quite like it on a really hot day.

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Shoshov in reply toMichaelJH

never had cold soups funny enough. maybe give it a go

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Sunnie2day in reply toShoshov

Borscht - cold in the summer, warm-hot in the winter. Nothing like it, nothing! My favourite recipe is from a Russian family friend who taught me to serve it over a steaming hot jacket potato in the winter for the ultimate comfort food feast.

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Sereza6 in reply toSunnie2day

Heaven!

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Mirador19

That’s a shame it spoilt your walk, hopefuls the next one will be better.

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Can you please translate all of the above.

Blot Bang Rub?

Or is this a secret code only to be known to former military personnel?

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply toMilkfairy

Think it is something to do with decontamination or cleaning the mess's ovens!

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply toMichaelJH

Okay thanks still clear as mud😂

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Lezzers in reply toMichaelJH

My ovens a mess if someone wants to come & clean it 😂

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply toLezzers

Think Hidden is the expert!

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Mirador19

That made me laugh, in my mind it tastes delicious 😋

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cowparsley

I wish you`d all stop posting about food.I can almost smell the roast beef.It`s torture.

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Lezzers in reply tocowparsley

My home made bread was gorgeous 😂

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cowparsley in reply toLezzers

Thanks for that Lezzers.I really wanted to know!!!!!

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Lezzers in reply tocowparsley

Not a cure for scurvy though ☺

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cowparsley in reply toLezzers

I could sprinkle it with lemon juice and pretend it was a lemon sole.

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Lezzers in reply tocowparsley

True 😂

in reply toLezzers

I take it that the bread was healthy whole grain bread with seeds Lezzers ?

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Lezzers in reply to

It was very very nice bread and reasonably healthy as it has no additives in it ☺

in reply toLezzers

Wholegrain though of course, Surely not white bread Lezzers ?

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Lezzers in reply to

Of course, wholegrain

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Lezzers in reply toLezzers

I lied, it wasn't really wholegrain!!

in reply toLezzers

Oh that’s ok, what was it....mixed grain, multi/ seed, flax, sprouted rye ?

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Lezzers in reply to

That's a good idea, next time I'll put flaxseed in it, thank you

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SpiritoftheFloyd in reply tocowparsley

My roast beef was wonderful! 🥩

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cowparsley in reply toSpiritoftheFloyd

Oh,I`m ecstatic for you!!!

in reply tocowparsley

I had roast piri piri chicken 😊

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Lezzers in reply to

Love peri peri chicken, did you make it yourself?

in reply toLezzers

Well sort of, I ordered it myself does that count ?

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Lezzers in reply to

Impressive!!

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Lezzers in reply to

Was it skinned chicken?

in reply toLezzers

I think it was, but it was awfully dark when I was eating it due to a power cut, so I couldn’t be 100% sure. Anyway, do you have the recipe for this super healthy homemade bread by any chance?

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Lezzers in reply to

Yes of course, I'll pm you the recipe

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply toLezzers

Me too!

Anybody know how to make sour dough bread?

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Sereza6 in reply toMilkfairy

I use Chef John’s recipe, very good and he is a funny guy. Google him ;)

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply toSereza6

Thank you, I'll have a look.

in reply toMilkfairy

I think Lezzers makes sour dough bread 🍞

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Lezzers in reply to

Err no, I'd have to disagree, I've never made it. In fact the bread I made at the weekend was my first ever attempt at making any sort of bread.

in reply toLezzers

Thank you Lezzers, just got the recipe. Sounds delicious, I can’t wait to try it...looks very healthy.

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Mirador19 in reply toLezzers

And me please, i love homemade bread.

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Lezzers in reply toMirador19

I'll pm you

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Mirador19 in reply toLezzers

Thank you Lezzers.

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Sunnie2day in reply toLezzers

Me too? Please, and thank-you in advance!

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cowparsley in reply to

I`m fed up with all you chefs.I`m going to bed.At least you didn`t cook your peri peri yourself but now you want to make bread !!!

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MilkfairyHeart Star in reply tocowparsley

I'll let you into a secret I will be giving the recipes to my sons.

I'll just eat the results of Speakeazi 's muffin recipe and Lezzers bread recipe.

😂

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cowparsley in reply toMilkfairy

OK Milkfairy,I won`t tell a soul !!x

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MilkfairyHeart Star

Thank you for the explanation.

As a small child in the 60's living on a military base in Germany I remember hearing the sirens going off.

All practice for a possible attack that thank goodness never came.

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Bagrat in reply toMilkfairy

I was serving in Germany in the 60s. We had decontamination practice at the hospital involving many yards of heavy duty polythene and hosepipes!! ( well as far as I can remember) . Also our respirators were kept safely several miles away which I always thought an interesting logistical challenge.

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Sunnie2day in reply toBagrat

I was in the USCG 1973-1986 - we had drills focussing on getting to kit and shelter within 60 seconds of where ever we were on base when the sirens went off.

Where I worked every day, NBC kit was usually kept 70 seconds one direction and shelter 120 seconds the other. I did manage to make it one time in 12 years to kit and shelter owing only to having been at DHQ when the sirens sounded.

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Bagrat in reply toSunnie2day

As a nurse I got of lightly with practice alerts but do remember being invited to the pictures at a flying station and the guy concerned had omitted to tell me they were on practice alert!! Guards in NBC suits let him know I'd arrived and off we went to cinema on base. You couldn't make it up!

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Cottagegardener

Michael I’ve only read a few posts but I love it already - just downloaded the receipt for apple and blackberry crumble! That will do nicely For me today!

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply toCottagegardener

How much did MilkFairy charge you...

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Bagrat

😀😀

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Cottagegardener

I haven’t had the bill yet 🤫😄

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply toCottagegardener

But you had a receipt!

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Cottagegardener in reply toMichaelJH

Oh yes, I’ve just noticed - very witty 🤣🤣🥧

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firstdates

thank you.regards michelle

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Lezzers

Is it one of those 📺 that pop up from the bottom of the bed?

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With all this talk of food I fell prey to temptation this afternoon. I was passing a coffee shop this afternoon and saw an apple pie in a chilled cabinet. The pastry looked quite thin and feeling sorry for myself (cold hanging on) decided to have a piece. There was lots of fruit and next to no sugar - in fact I suspect quite a few would have found it too tart! Good news is a few hours on my BG (predictive text thinks I mean Bag) is good! 😀

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Harrison4

Made a fruit cake today

Simple soak a bag of dried mixed fruit in tea overnight add two eggs and two tea cups of flour self raising stir to make a batter pour into dish then bake on 160 until when tested in middle fork comes out clean. 😊👍

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Sunnie2day in reply toHarrison4

Thank-you! I'm going to give that a go - I'm having a baking weekend (Calliope's muffins and Lezzer's bread) and will now add your recipe. My husband loves a good fruit cake but he's coeliac and finding a recipe I can adapt isn't that easy. Our favourite is Dundee cake and I think your recipe will be the perfect one for making a gluten-free Dundee Cake, thank-you again!

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply toSunnie2day

I imagine the Gin Girls use tea infused Gin? 😁

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Sunnie2day in reply toMichaelJH

Personally I like a good brandy infusion - but my husband (owing to the coeliac and another condition) is tee-total. So I club in with one of my walking partners here in town - I buy the ingredients and she makes the 'real' cake and I nip over...for a nip:)

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As a youngster whenever I had a cold or was otherwise unwell my mother made chicken soup. It was a real pick-me-up. However, the recipe was never written down and died with her like a number of other ones. I recall that the main ingredients included chicken (obviously), carrots, onions and celery. Sometimes she made soft noodles (main ingredient egg as I recall) to add body. Has any cook in the bar got a similar recipe? Thank you...

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Speakeazi in reply toMichaelJH

There are as many recipes for the best chicken soup as there are mothers. But here’s mine.

1 Chicken

4 solid carrots cut into slices 1 cm or upto 4 cm thick

1 large onion peeled

1 leek trim just the very top, take off the outer layer. and cut in half lengthwise ( wash carefully)

I don’t use celery but you can add it in chop up in slices

Remove all the packaging around the chicken

Boil a kettle and pour over the chicken in the sink

Rinse with cold water

Pop it in a very large soup pan

Turn on on the heat til it thinks about simmering. Not do it boils in 10 minutes.

Here’s where the soup is won or lost and you need to be patient.

Have a big spoon and bowl or jug to hand.

As the water heats up bits of stuff, known as scum in my house, come off the chicken soup and need to be skimmed - remove with the spoon from the surface. This might take upto 30 minutes.

Don’t let the soup boil.

When no more bits come to the surface add in the onion, carrot and leek. You do need to add in some salt otherwise it has no taste. You could also pop in 5 whole black peppercorns.

I tend to start to cook the soup at about 7pm

I cook the soup on a low light for a few hours. I then turn off the heat and leave it to cool overnight and then it goes in the fridge at breakfast time.

For the soft noodles, go to the kosher section of your supermarket if there is one and buy “locshen”. This is like vermicelli. These are the soft noodles.

When the soup comes out of the fridge there can be bits of fat on the top just remove them with a spoon.

I will post some pictures in the next new post.

I am available for any questions which may arise before or whilst cooking.

Enjoy.

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Sunnie2day in reply toSpeakeazi

I am drooling all over my keyboard, thank-you for this delicious sounding recipe (and the snap on the other discussion, whole chook, wowsa, and I can't wait to give it a go!).

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Just got back... It is getting cold out there (angina sufferers remember scarf over mouth). A few of the ladies are trying the latest infused gin. What's that - somebody has put "Match of the Mods" on the jukebox. Painful to the ears of an old Rocker...

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Very quiet here tonight. Ordered an Americano and settling down for US GP.

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Sunnie2day in reply toMichaelJH

You must have SkySports! We thought about it but in the end like Coulthard so much more than the Sky presenters we watch the highlights programmes on C4 FreeView.

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply toSunnie2day

No, no Sky. Listened on steam radio. Highlights too late for me and find results leak out if you wait a day!

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Sunnie2day in reply toMichaelJH

I usually try to avoid news sources on a race weekend. Last night I knew I wasn't going to make it through qualie highlights on from 1240am to 0210 so I did check the online sports page - glad I did as I fell asleep on the sofa during Q1 highlights!

Ten minutes (or so) to race highlights - hoping I make it through that but I'll probably fall asleep again (love what Bisoprolol does for my heart, hate it makes late nights next to impossible!) - so, erm, yes, well, I know the results already.

Wait, steam radio? What is that?

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply toSunnie2day

Just a standard radio rather than DAB, Internet, etc. My oldest has valves...

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Sunnie2day in reply toMichaelJH

Oh right, steam as in 'steampunk', then? Here's where I admit I long for Father Christmas to bring me one of those steampunk laptops. Yes, I still believe in Father Christmas, and wow are those steampunk laptops gorgeous! I love antiques and 1930s-40s vintage (not so keen on retro, the 1960s and 70s weren't my fav decades;) ) and steampunk style hits my funny bone as it does marry modern tech and antique-vintage nicely.

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Lezzers in reply toSunnie2day

70's greatest decade ever??

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Sunnie2day in reply toLezzers

To some:) The only good things I recall about the 1970s is the wedding (which we almost didn't make it to owing to a tornado coming through and taking down trees over the very roads we needed to use to get to the venue), and our eldest (born 1977 after 21 1/2 hours hard labour, going into eclampsia and ending up having a C-section with two weeks recovery in hospital on blood drips...).

Too, maybe my memories are clouded by the endless slog through uni for my husband and me, and oh my word, mini-skirts I couldn't wear owing to my unsightly legs!

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Lezzers in reply toSunnie2day

Oh, definitely better memories for some than others. Loved the mini skirts though, wore them long after I shouldn't have 😂

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply toLezzers

Flares and Cuban heels but I had to be careful with doorways! 😁

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Lezzers in reply toMichaelJH

😂 Now we're regressing!! I dare not tell you who my pop idol was!!

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MichaelJHHeart Star in reply toLezzers

Oh, a competition!

Maybe David Cassidy or the Bay City Rollers?

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Lezzers in reply toMichaelJH

Ha ha, can't stop Michael got the wheelbarrow to buy 😂

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Now you have made me put wheelbarrow on my Xmas present list - help!*? 😕

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Nice pot of breakfast tea this morning whilst I do a Christmas card and present list. I want to sort it out early as the Christmas shoppers were already out yesterday. The crowds do my head in!

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Lezzers in reply toMichaelJH

Can't beat breakfast tea, best ever. Enjoy

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Enough of these lists - time for lunch. Going to be two free range poached eggs with asparagus and a few new potatoes. Going to try a "skinny" Hollandaise sauce recipe with it - low fat yogurt replacing the butter for less fat and calories.

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Lezzers in reply toMichaelJH

Sounds nice

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Sunnie2day in reply toMichaelJH

I think you're going to love the substitution, it really is fabulous.

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A new member Tracesteele62 has asked for a chat. Some light hearted chat is good for all of us in these difficult times so I have reopened the virtual bar and cafe.

I will be back later for a cuppa as I am off coffee today as I have a migraine. ☹️

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Hi and thank you for the invite. I am not used to going out alone lol but I'm sure a virtual cup of tea and cake with a chat or two will go down well. I used to be on a lot stronger until I fell apart. They put my heart back together again now I think I am the bionic woman, good to be here. I think I am going to enjoy the company. Thank you for directing me as I'm not a great Internet user .

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Sorry to hear about the migraine 😔rest up.

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Bump

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And another bump - Michael, quick use the HU home link (not the red BHF one) - unless someone types faster than I do, you should see this at the top or at least close to the top.

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