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Delicate question

Probably one for the ladies (I use that term loosely, I’m looking at you, Lezzers) (joking).

Sooo..straight after my ridiculously long angiogram (I went large and went for 3/4 stents in the LAD, feel a bit of a rock star, truth be told, bladder somewhat less rock-starry but that’s for another (gin soaked) day.

Straight after they’d finished the did quite a brutal echocardiogram because they were a bit concerned as they’d been messing around in there for best part of 4 hours, 2 wires at the same time, and want to check I hadn’t sprung any leaks (oh, NOW you’re worried! Did this not occur to you, Mr Dr, when you decided on this fancy pants-ness).

So I’m bruised, quite badly (kiss kiss, blood thinners) in the area over the heart. Which is coincidentally the area where we have to be alert for changes and lumps. There’s a lump under the bruise, sort of 2-3cm long x 1cm wide (like a little sausage), hard and bumpy.

Do we get lumps under bruises? Is this a thing? I’ve been a little preoccupied since late April, and I was never the most vigilant.

I’m not going to say it, I started here disbelieving my pains were angina...but some reassurance would be great.

I have an initial plan of waiting to see if it resolves as the bruise does. I’m only telling internet people because:

1. It sounds utterly bonkers after such frequent and intense serious illness.

2. I feel those close to me need a break from the sick froggy and worry, unless it’s absolutely necessary.

3. I’m REALLY GOOD at denial.

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First we'll address the gin issue. Have you tried Sevilla gin, it's gorgeous with a slice of orange & even better if you can find Sevilla tonic water to go with it. Now to the lump, I'm no expert but yes I believe you can have hard areas beneath bruises, however, you & I both know the most sensible thing to do is visit the GP who may or may not refer you. If you are referred, it in no way means anything sinister I know of a few people who've been referred & all was OK. However, It's quite probable that it's due to all the invasive work but why quietly worry when a simple visit to the GP is all that's required. Lastly, I would think those close to you would much prefer you to share your worries with them & may well be upset to know that you've tried to shield them. Let us know how you get on with the GP and don't let the Dr's receptionists get the better of you!! Xx

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I am partial to an occasional Tanqueray Seville orange gin. Or a Lidl Rhubarb and ginger. Or a Pink grapefruit...thank the universe for slimline tonic.

Jury still out on the other bit...

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Rhubarb & ginger is also very nice have never tried pink 🍇 fruit, sounds like it may be a bit tart? X

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I don't get this Gin thing and much prefer a decent Malt with hints of smoke and peat. My cardiologist agrees! 😎

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Have you tried gin?

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Yes! Hendricks was OK, didn't like Gordon's (but generally find him irritating). My sister's friend has a large collection all a bit weird. Maybe it is because I have the slimline tonic rather than the others which are no good for blood sugar. I run an old Jag but am more an Inspector Morse than an Arthur Daley (gin and slim please Dave).

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Can you have the low in calories & nothing artificial tonics?

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Never seen anything apart from Schweppes on the shelves?

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Get down that supermarket now!! I have a bottle of fever-tree mediterranean tonic water made with floral botanicals, delicious, low in calories & nothing artificial (well that's what it says on the label!) in the kitchen just waiting to be poured into my sevilla gin! I was gonna challenge you to try the gin & I'll try the malt, but apparently it's a whisky 🥃 yuk. I thought malt was a beer!!

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Try the Laphroaig 10 year old. I only have a small supermarket so will look when I go further afield. Would it be stocked in a massive (10,000 step) Tesco?

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Yep, definitely tesco's. I'm hoping to go to Edinburgh in December so I'll try the samples in the whisky shops lining the Royal Mile, I did that once before and by the time I got to the castle I'd forgotten that I didn't actually like whisky 🥃

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Another one to try is either hot or iced tea with limoncello. The iced one is really refreshing! 😎

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I'm not a lover of limoncello. My sister bought me some bootleg stuff from the hills in lake Garda, apparently the owner of the hotel made it & only sold it to a select few!!

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Limoncello is amazing

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The Italians do a lemon gin "Malfy Gin Con Limone". I am reading the "Little Book of Gin". The other one that appeals to me "Tarquins British Blackberry". 52 gins are listed!

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Blimy, don't let sillyfroggy know bout these books, she'll never be able to walk a straight line to the Dr's!! Hic

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Too late - she liked the post. Fortunately I do not think every Weatherspoons stocks all 52! 🥃

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Lidl had that on offer the Christmas before my husband went tee-total, oh my that was amazing stuff!

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That Laphroaig tastes like TCP.

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Go and wash your mouth out with TCP! I have gargled with TCP and it tastes nothing like!

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Agreed lol .... horrible stuff 😰

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Agreed TCP is but Laiphrog does not taste like it.

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I believe the Fever Tree naturally light tonic might fall into this category.

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I agree on the malt but it makes me fall over cos I like it too much!Now forced to drink a lady like GandT

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Thank goodness there are some gin nuts on here, felt a bit of a lush before reading this lot.

Despite my very ‘holier than thou most of the time eating plan’ the gin has to stay. On a visit to our local hostelry last night I tried Parma Violet Gin. Damn good it was too. Also tried raspberry infused last week with frozen raspberries dropped in.

It’s my 1st year anniversary on the 10th August of my CABGx4 and we will be going for a long weekend to Croatia with our 2 daughters, son in law’s and 5 very young grandchildren to celebrate being alive for a whole year no doubt with yet another gin.

On another point is it normal to have NO follow appointment apart from the 6 week after the operation?

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Now, I've been told the parma voilet is nice but I can't get pass the though of the horrible sweets!! I've tried the raspberry one with the raspberries & yes that was very nice. Now I'm just off to book my drying out session!!! Can't advise bout the appt, could you ring the hospital to chase it up? Forgot to say I hope you have a fantastic time in Croatia x

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Hi it’s nothing like the sweets you have to try it 😀😀

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Have tried the Parma Violet,straight with ice.Just too drinkable so a nono for me. I have a compulsive nature so it`s either all or nothing!

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Very wise! I'm like that too 😀😏

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No, it’s not normal. You should get a follow up with the cardiologist at about 6 months if not sooner, unless they (not the surgical team) have discharged you (unlikely). Suggest you have a word with your GP

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Thank goodness for this site.I always feel so guilty drinking with a heart problem.feel I should give up.Impossible.Cheers!

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Quite agree. I still have my wine with my supper in the evening and a gin and tonic now and again!

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Oh dear, I feel like I've driven everyone to drink!! Honesty compels me to say I don't have a heart problem my husband does but his nurse said nothing wrong with him having a drink now & then so he has a couple of glasses of wine occasionally, not enough to fall over though! 🍷

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Well this stuff better be good or?*! I saw it on offer at under a score so brought a bottle. Got the FeverTree low cal to go with it...

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I'd join you in a drink but I'm on antibiotics so no alcohol for me 😔 😢 let us know your score out of 10!

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Thought I had best not start a 'tasting notes" thread. I couldn't find the bottle opener for the tonic so tried it neat. Whilst the Seville oranges come through it was a bit strong'ish like blended whiskey compared to a malt!

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Hmmmm, I can't argue not knowing a malt from a blend!

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Hi Sillyfroggy,

Well any of us would worry about lumps in our breasts.

A week after my mother's funeral. I went for my routine mammogram....you've guessed it they found something. My mother had died of breast cancer!

I am also on blood thinners. I had a biopsy then the fun started. I got a haematoma a clot in my breast.

It was so painful, my bruise spectacular.

It took weeks to go and the clot to be reabsorbed. I had a hard lump in my breast for months afterwards.

I then had an extended wait until they could do the second biopsy I needed.

Everything all okay I am glad to say.

However please make an appointment to see your GP ASAP because you need to have the lump that you are feeling checked out by your doctor.

The wait and the uncertainty are difficult to deal with. I acknowledge why you may want to run away I did whilst I was waiting for my results.

If we are talking gin Henderson's for me with a slice of cucumber

Good luck!

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Shall we keep on at her until she gives in? My speciality subject is nagging...just ask my husband!! 😂

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It’s more I will feel a total hypochondriac and idiot!

I’ve had lumps investigated before, and I know 9/10 are nothing but who had 75358984456905 doctor and hospital visits, and when that bit’s fixed(ish) start on the next big scary illness?!

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Wow, Milkfairy, it just keeps on coming sometimes! Can’t imagine how worried you were.

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Didn't do my angina much good😂

Please say you'll go to see your GP or I'll set Lezzers on you.....she tells me she is an Olympic gold medalist on nagging apparently....

Please report back to say all is clear when you've been checked out.

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Hi. As others have said visit your GP or nurse practitioner and they will refer you to the breast clinic where you will get tests and results in a few hours. I know it’s daunting but please please have it checked out.

As to the gin. Well have you tried Seedlip (non alcoholic- I know I’m sad! With a fever tree tonic with cucumber delicious!) take care and phone on Monday please. Sending big hugs. Zena xx

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Zena that is not sad but tragic alcohol free gin 😭

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You are absolutely right!!! Welcome to my very sober world. Whilst not research based and based only on my own experience when I did drink gin/beer/wine/ I never once injured myself now I drink only water I managed a nasty break!!! The moral of the story.............!!!!!😂Zena xx

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See, now I’m too sad about non-alcoholic gin! That’s as obscene as the earlier ‘KFC without skin’

I’m sure there used to be a better class of people here (then I joined 😉😉😉🙈🙈)

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I would really like to try the vegan KFC, does that make me weird????

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Don’t do it! I wouldn’t even try it and I’m a vegan!! 😂

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I may look at it first & decide, that usually puts me off!! I miss the taste of KFC but just can't!!

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Yes.

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😂

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as all the other ladies have said don’t put yourself through the worry. go get rechecked out. as for the gin i thought us forum members were saints who didn’t go near the dark side. didn’t know gin was a popular drink. been out of the loop too long. seriously though with what we’ve been through a gp visit is a walk in the park❤️shiona

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Shiona I feel you need to put Michael straight about gin.

He claims without substance that whiskey is a superior beverage and even endorsed by his Cardiologist.....can this be true? 🥵🥺

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How dim am I!! I thought Michael was talking bout beer!!! 🍻

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And I though Lezzers was hitting the gym! 😀

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Almost! 🏋️

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I apologise to all the Scottish folk I see I have used the Irish spelling of Whisky ...

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No offence taken:)

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My Enflish husband & I went into a pub in Edinburgh and he accidentally ordered an Irish malt, he's never lived it down! He prefers Glen Fiddoch etc Strathspey whisky, I stupidly encouraged him to try a G & T I almost forced it on him! He realised how refreshing it was and loves it now, I prefer Brandy & tonic mostly.

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doubt it but them i’m tee total and haven’t a clue about drinks. i was just joining in the banter. a wee cuppa for me any day

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I wonder if I’d started a thread about gin and other inferior boozes it would have turned into a thread about bumpy boobs?!

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Dare you to try it!! X

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Humour is a tonic!

Laughter the best medicine.

A smile chases the dark clouds of anxiety away.

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i think the gins flowing tonight. it’s contagious Ahhhhhh

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In 2011 I had an angiogram and stent inserted in LAD. Afterwards there were three large finger-shaped bruises around the entry area (femoral artery) caused by the pressure applied after the procedure. The following day a round hard lump developed in the bruised area. Visited GP as this was one symptom which I was told HAD to be checked out. Turned out to be nothing to worry about and it disappeared in 7-10 days, but do get your lump checked.

In answer to your more important question it’s whisky, malt, definitely. Springbank 21 year old. If the voters finally decide on gin then Eden Mill, Edinburgh Gin, Monkey 47 are all very good.

Cheers

Henry

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Hi, I had HA and stent beginning of Feb. Had a lot of right side pain so an ultra sound. Scan found a breast lump, fast track check, told it was a cyst, I’ve had them before. Apparently it showed on a Mammogram in 2013, why don’t they tell you? Any it was the size of a baked bean then and the size of a broad bean now, how do doctors think up these size comparisons. Any after all that they won’t drain it while I’m on Warfarin. So Sillyfroggy, get your lump checked out and stop worrying.

I now have a lump in neck that I’m getting fast tracked for, You no sooner get over one thing and another comes along. I must have offended the Gods this year.

The good news is I saw the Cardiac guy this week and I can try coming of Warfarin end of August and reduced the Furosemide and then stop them altogether. Also he said I can have an occasional drink, must buy some tonic, sure there’s some gin left in the larder, does gin go off, it’s quite old.

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No, gin does not go off :)

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Hi love your sense of humor. Please please get checked out. It will give you peace of mind and deep down you know its the right thing to do. We need more people in the world like you to cheer us hearties up so make that appointment now. Best of luck. See you for a gin and tonic

( oh sorry I forgot I don't drink but if it promises to give me a sense of humor like yours, I'll start today).

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Oh wow what a completely wonderful string of replies to wake up to this Sunday morning - bless you all!!! Very, very funny and, for me, meaningful since my AVR in March I have been so disinterested in alcohol I began to wonder if there was such a thing as a ‘tee-total aortic valve’ that my surgeon had used!!!!! I am now looking forward to sampling all your suggestions - well most of them anyway 🤣🤣🤣 what a useful forum this is! 😉

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Yes I had a round hard lump over the entry area where they inserted the probe etc. It has gone now, takes a while but it does go down, however if worried I would go and see you GP.

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Like you I had multiple stents, 4 the first time and then another 3. So heart scaffolding! My bruising like yours was spectacular over my chest and my arm.

I would suspect your lump may be a hematoma, which basically is a bad bruise where the bleeding under the bruise causes a raised area and are totally nothing to worry about. It can make it feel rubbery, spongy and lumpy. I had quite a few of these after my first angiogram and stents on my lower arm. But you should definitely get it checked out at your GP surgery een if it just to put your mind at rest.

Now on to the Gin, have you tried Monkey 47, with fever tree tonic, slice of lemon and lime and a sprig of rosemary or mint if I'm being really decadent!! . Totally lush and I am not giving it up, somethings just have to be in moderation :-)

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I fear we may have to join the HU ‘me and my booze’ forum en masse!

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Afternoon Sillyfroggy and me other hearties. Firstly, a lump is a lump. You know perfectly well it's probably just part of the bruise, but it's worrying you, so get it checked before you get seriously stressed.

Secondly, I gave up alcohol 4 years ago after maxing out on codeine for 3 months with chronic sciatica - my taste buds changed and I no longer like alcohol. I'm not teetotal, I'd happily tuck into a sherry trifle right now, or rather its Mediterranean Diet equivalent: the Tiramisu. (I feel I may have misunderstood something about this Med Diet lark, but can't quite put my finger on it.) However, what I wanted to say is that a friend of mine has got into the habit of drinking the flavoured Fever Tree tonics, and is particularly enamoured of the Aromatic Tonic Water. They also do a Mediterranean Tonic Water. Nuff said.

Have a great afternoon everyone!

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Best way to reduce calories is to just don’t add the tonic or mixers!

As far as the sausage goes my husband had an angio where they entered through his groin. He had a sausage there as well. He asked me to feel it and after five minutes of checking it out he told me I was fiddling with the wrong sausage!

In any case the cardio doc checked it out too (he found the right sausage on the first try) and it’s created by the blood pooling at the site and should dissolve over time but you need to watch it. It did go away.

Because it is in the breast I’d suggest having it looked at just to be sure.

Funny but when the doc asks the hubby how many drinks do you have a week he says I have a cocktail before dinner. I think the doc must have a formula on his answer sheet the automatically has a “1 X 5” calculation.

Thanks for the giggles.

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And thank you for the laugh out loud moment! 😂

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Wrong sausage 😂😂😂😂😂 even after an angio they’re bloody trying! Obvs I’ve not offered my husband a feel of the lump, he may get all kinds of ideas. And I’ve not had gin (yet) today.

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Not2worry, think you should have gone to SpecSavers!

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Sillyfroggy I really think you must examine your conscience.

This thread of yours has taken on a life of its own causing reckless moments of laughter and hilarity.....is this allowed?

😂🤣😁

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And I'm really concerned for my liver with all the gins & whiskys I've got to try!! 🥃

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I am extremely worried about the reference to alternative sausages.

I feel it will have caused many laugh out loud moments .

Is there a danger of a tsunami as a result of all the belly wobbles due to excessive laughter?

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I feel sorry for anyone who finds themselves here via Dr Google. Hope the mods don’t tell us all off tomorrow.

The Wrong Sausage....absolutely priceless. 😂😂😂 I’ve heard of The Wrong Trousers...

Boobs, booze and sausage - secrets to a healthy heart.

Also loved the counting Tiramisu as part of the Mediterranean diet....my menu has suddenly got a LOT more fun! (Necks another glass of Retsina as she polishes off a pizza, eyeing the Zabaglione waiting for her 🍕🍷🍷🍷🍧

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Just a thought ....are we all Pirates?

Aaaarrghhhh me hearties!

I’ve got a ‘heart’ pirate joke but I’m not sure if it’s a bit too close to home....

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Hi there. I've just finished on the ticagrelor so thankfully the bruises aren't what they used to be. But I did used to find if I knocked myself really badly, a big hard lump would appear under the bruise and stay there for a while. It really worried me the first time but I got used to it in then. Jo x

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I’ve been tee-total and tobacco free for 30years and then manage to develop heart problems! I was partial to the more than occasional G and T in my drinking days however, and all this talk about these new wave “flavoured” gins, has made my mouth water and I can feel the wagon tipping alarmingly! I don’t think I will fall off though. All I have to do is remember how unpalatable whisky was and my continuing sobriety is guaranteed!!

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Oh Lord , what a breath of fresh air this.page is . I am surprised you haven't all been defrocked and ex- communicated . I remember when you could have a good laugh on Thyroid UK but sadly no more . My OH has been in stitches , no pun intended , this morning , and as avid gin drinkers we have learned a thing or two . I have had a lump under a bruise on my shin for a couple of weeks , but after reading these posts , the solution seems to be gin lol !

Best Wishes and better health to you all , and thanks for the giggle . Pp

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Hi Siĺlyfroggy,

Have you got an update on your little sausage?

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Little sausage has been fat-shamed. After allowing a variety of people to have a look and a feel (I think some just joined in for the fun aspect) little sausage has been deemed ‘fat necrosis’. Which is a posh way of saying ‘bloody hell, that’s a big bruise!). Sadly, little sausage has been given a terminal diagnosis and will quite probably no longer be with us in 3 months’ time. He took the news stoically (I think) and the positive is that after a HA and the brutal echo that caused the whole saga, has to have been the easiest mammogram ever, totally not painful compared to this heart malarkey. Thank you for all your support, and continuation of the thread in relation to booze.

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Have G'n'T to celebrate! I will not join you though as still digestively delicate! ☹️

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Truly excellent news!

I am pleased to hear that 'little sausage ' has been uncovered as an imposter and their real identity of being a mere bloody great big bruise revealed.

I will raise a glass of craft New England IPA later....

I am a woman of many tastes.

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Soooo pleased to hear your fab news, feel better bout bullying you now! ☺ I'll have a celebratory drink for you too but will leave it till the weekend just in case I forget to re-Cork the bottle!!! 😂 Xx

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Little sausage went to the doctor’s. Doc thinks little sausage is a haematoma but to be super safe I’m at the sausage clinic on Thursday.

I’m not very sure how a mammogram and anticoagulants will mix 🙈🙈🙈🙈

Thank you for asking, Milkfairy.

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Great news to hear your little sausage has revealed themself as a haematoma.

I have had 3 mammograms on anticoagulants no sweat.

They will mix as well as your chosen gin and tonic🍸

Unlike Michael I have to steer clear of diet tonic the artificial sweeteners guess what give me vasospasms 😱

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Glad you went, I'm sure all will be OK. We've driven Michael to try the gin, not sure we'll convert him though!! Xx

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I would think its possibly the bruise but If in go to your doctor and get it checked out . That way you won't be worrying about it!

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