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Use of a ratio of 66 vs 70 in Pre Bronchodilator Spirometry

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Over the last few months I've seen a few on here freaking out that their FEV/FVC ratio was below 70 while they have a good FEV1.

I came across this article today which recommends using 66 as the pre bronchodilator cut off for obstruction.

Interesting, this stuff is changing by the day as COPD diagnosis is refined.

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To be fair I think that both pre-bronchodilator and post-bronchodilator spirometry is being used, to rule out Asthma, with initial hospital diagnosis. I know that is how it was done with me, at the hospital. Confirmed as being Emphysema with a CT scan immediately followed by a PET scan.

Only on the one occasion have I had just the pre-bronchodilator spirometry, performed at the GPs surgery with a COPD nurse, with a mouthpiece containing a spinner connected to a laptop. Compared to the specialised booth and gas tests, I was not impressed.

In fact in my (booth) spirometry taking the short acting bronchodilator (Ventolin) makes no difference to the results. Ventolin has never worked for me though.

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Unfortunate Ventolin hasn't worked. Its about the only thing that works for me. Is there any inhaler that improves your condition 2Greys?

I think the above is relevant in borderline cases and it seems to be a change in thinking for some. Years ago when I went for my first tests it was an arbitrary cutoff off of .7. Now the LLN comes into play never mind .66.

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I think it's a problem with GP/consultants not putting the diagnosis in context - I was first told I had COPD 6years ago, with late onset asthma, then bronchiectasis, and now they're not sure I have COPD at all! It's enough to worry anyone!

It is entirely possible to have a mild form of anything, such that treatment may be unnecessary and, although I have not read the article, I suspect that research has shown little benefit in treating a 66% ratio - the lungs will outlive the patient!

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There may however be symptomatic improvement apparently although I can’t say I’ve experienced it :)

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