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After 4+ months of waiting told 'on the list' many times, nurse from gp surgery came. Says don't know what district nurses are doing lately. πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ Also gave me pneumonia vax- never had or been offered beforeπŸ€” No Covid as run out. Can I sue if I contract Covid or is it all forgotten about now? Yet I hear it's on the rise again, yet another different strain, same as flu it keeps mutating. Shall not be so patient next time! πŸ™„

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I don't have to wait forvyr surgery.most chemists also do them now

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DannyQ

I would say be very careful with getting the covid vax, I'd advise you to do some research on the data coming out of New Zealand. AstraZeneca, Pfizer and others pharm companies are all being sued for the side affects and deaths caused by the covid jabs. My uncle had the covid vax and within a few weeks had a heart attack !!!!

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fraidβ€’ in reply toDannyQ

I've had a few with no side effects atall, just this year not able to get one. Doubt your uncle's heart attack could be proved was due to vax, hope he okay though. There's side effects to everything but if it does far more good than harm we'll keep using.

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DannyQβ€’ in reply tofraid

My uncle is a lot better now thanks, it was the hospital that was linking the heart attack with the covid vax, as we a side affect is mycoditus.I will say there are a possible people 17 million people have died or have serious side affects from the vax. There has been a huge increase in unexplained deaths since everyone began taking the vax. The fact every pharmaceutical company is protected with immunity, Begs the question that something isnt quite right ?

I would never tell anyone not to take as it's your choice, I would say just look at all the information coming out very slowly as not to alarm you

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fraidβ€’ in reply toDannyQ

The word there is 'possible'. How many would have died without the vax? We shall never know but conspiracy theories that stop people from getting a vax for preventable diseases lead us to for eg, the measles outbreak now. Yes it our choice having weighed up the pros and cons whether to get any vax, though as a child we had no choice in such things as it was for the greater good. But we did eradicate smallpox, polio, etc until the criminal kiboshed the MMR vax, creating the increase in refusals of many vax. My choice was if I get Covid I may die, vax may save me. πŸ€”

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DannyQβ€’ in reply tofraid

Well as I said 17 million have died or serious health complications that is actually more than died of covid, that indicates to me that the vax is going to cost more lives, it can't be a coincidence that since the start of the vexing that there is a huge increase in unexplained deaths. You mentioned conspiracy theorists, now at the start of the pandemic when I was called a conspiracy theorist for saying that the virus came from a lab in wuhan, now that turns out to be conspiracy facts.I worked at one of the big pharmaceutical companies for 14 years and the whole time I was there we were informed of why it took between 8 to 10 years to come to market, the potential dangerous side affects of the drugs. Now your telling me to take a drug that has got to market in 6 months not a chance and I've been proven right with all the problems a lot of people are getting and people winning case against the pharmaceutical companies that doesnt get much media coverage, well mainstream media

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fraidβ€’ in reply toDannyQ

I have not told you to do anything. Like you said it is every persons choice and we chose to take the least damaging option on offer, Covid or preventative vax available at the time. Hindsight is just that.

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Mandevillaβ€’ in reply toDannyQ

Covid also kills people. So does asthma, and Covid can cause asthma, as it did with me.

There's a risk to any medical treatment, but bearing in mind how sick I got pre-vaccination, I'm grateful I've been able to have my Covid vaccinations.

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DannyQβ€’ in reply toMandevilla

Well I have Asthma and got covid twice and I was perfectly fine without getting the jab, now the Pfizer vax that claimed to protect you 95% actually only protected you 0 4% and was only tested on 50 humans with 2 having serious side affects this is why the the state of texas is sueing them

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DannyQβ€’ in reply toMandevilla

If you've had the covid jab, have you considered that the vax gave you Asthma. Our prime minister company has an investment of 500 million in Moderna covid vax

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fraidβ€’ in reply toDannyQ

We had asthma already, long before Covid was heard of - which is why we are in the most vulnerable group and a further, new, respiratory disease could finish us. When you got Covid twice did that not affect your asthma?πŸ€”

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DannyQβ€’ in reply tofraid

Nope my Asthma was completely fine my breathing was fine, which sort of disproves a lot of what they were saying, I did feel like I'd been hit round the head for about 24-48 hours but that was it, but the whole time my asthma was completely fine.Now swine flu back in 2009 was horrendous, I was a right mess for over a week, hallucinating a high temp continually and so much more.

What really concerned me was the fact they were trying to give it to kids and pregnant women ?

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fraidβ€’ in reply toDannyQ

You do seem to contradict yourself a lot. Of course they would want to vax the most vulnerable, whole point is disease prevention. Shame you didn't know all this beforehand, but nobody did.

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DannyQβ€’ in reply tofraid

But the most vulnerable are only over 70's or serious health conditions and the obese. But no, they were trying to force it onto children who didn't need it and if you wanted to leave the country you had go have it, when it wasnt required as even if you had the vax it didnt stop you passing covid on. People lost there jobs because they refused the vax which is wrong on every level.Now they going into schools offering the flu vaccine which again isnt required for children, it's all about making money. I cant recall if I said I worked at a pharmaceutical company for 14 years and there is something that occurred that they did made me look at how they operate in a completely different light as it's all about money.

I will say I am enjoying our chat as we both look at life in a completely different way

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Mandevillaβ€’ in reply toDannyQ

Congratulations on not being badly affected by Covid. Sadly, not everyone is so fortunate - including a few of my friends who didn't make it. Just because you didn't have Covid badly doesn't mean everyone else was ok, so maybe try bearing that in mind?

And no, I know the vax didn't cause my asthma because I had it BEFORE I got vaccinated. My first bout of Covid was 2020 and I was so sick I didn't think I'd make it. Took months to recover. Second bout of Covid was post-vaccination, in March 2023 - poorly enough to go to bed for a few days and my asthma got worse for a few days too, but absolutely nothing like the first time round.

Don't have the vax if you don't want it - but don't try telling us that illnesses we had pre-vax were caused by the vaccine, because that is just insulting our intelligence.

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DannyQβ€’ in reply toMandevilla

You said you got Ashtma due to covid, I know people who almost lost there life due to the vax, one had blood lots and was 24hrs from death, my uncle had a heart attack caused by covid and finally my best mate has blackouts caused by the vax which left him with stitches on the last one. Now if your over 70 or have serious health conditions the main one being over weight, I'd say take otherwise I wouldn't, I have friends who work at hospitals and they refuse to take the vax they also tell me a lot of doctors at the hospital they work at refuse to take the vax too.I am sorry for the loss of your friends I would like to add.

Not at any point did I tell you not to take the vax as it's your choice I just want to offer you a difference of opinion as more information we have on this whole debacle.

In the us at the moment Dr Fauci is admitting to the fact 2 metres apart and wearing masks was just made up measure with no scientific evidence to back it up

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Mandevillaβ€’ in reply toDannyQ

I think there is already sufficient information out there for anyone who wants to find it. And most people on this forum are used to researching about their health.

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DannyQβ€’ in reply toMandevilla

That's true about us research about our health, but what i struggle with is why mainstream media and the government are doing there best to cover all the information out there up. There is so much that doesn't add up about the whole situation, if you take the hospital's recording deaths as covid when it clearly wasnt the truth. So the question I ask, what reason did they want to increase the number of death totals to covid ? My theory is to scare people to take the vax, which was an experimental drug being tested on the masses.I think we will just have differences of opinion on this subject. I see the world for what it is and how some very rich and powerful people are trying to guide the world to where they control everything we do.

I am someone who now enjoy's life, I was lost for a very long time so I appreciate everyday now. I wish you well and hope you have a great 2024.

Life is about being happy

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LysistrataAdministratorCommunity Ambassadorβ€’ in reply toDannyQ

I'm turning off replies now DannyQ as I think this has gone far enough. Please refrain from posting conspiracy theories and speculation designed to scare people. If you want to post something about COVID or vaccination, please stick to quality evidence from appropriate, evidence-based sources.

I'm sorry about your friends' and relatives' experiences and I don't doubt they had these problems, but COVID can often cause severe issues like these and is actually higher risk for them than the vaccine. I'd also ask you, as others have said, not to assume your experience is the same as others' when it comes to catching COVID.

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Glad you had the pneumonia vaccination fraid as well as the flu one . Agree re rather having covid vaccination than covid. Millions along millions had had it with no ill effects. πŸ’

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LittleZebra

Hello, I am glad you have finally been able to get two of your jabs. I wasn't eligible for a Covid jab this year as my asthma has been under control and I am 'only' late 50's. I have had 4 Covid jabs previously, the only side effect being, being sick with a headache the day after the very first. Fine afterwards. Lost my Dad with hospital acquired Covid on the day the letter came for his first jab so keen to take the opportunity when I can have one. I managed to avoid Covid (and any other repiratory infections) entirely for 4 years before catching it for the first time just before Christmas. Strangely it started with exactly the same as my symptoms after my first jab. I am convinced my symptoms would have been even worse had I not had any jabs but it has mutated quite a lot since my last jab and the symptoms were not really the ones you would associate with 'old style' Covid and came on very quickly. I tested myself and was VERY positive. I stayed positive for 14 days. The good thing is that it didn't seem to impact my asthma at all as I only developed a cough part way through and it just affected my throat and the very top of my chest, unlike most colds.

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I fear you do sound a little paranoid on the matter with your conspiracy theories. Saying it was all about money is a huge shortfall, what cost a life that could be saved from a deadly new disease by a simple vax? Most of us survived coz the govt acted quickly. People die every year from flu and no one bats an eyelid or blames govt and 'controllers', in fact we complain if we don't get our vax! Alive and healthy are as important as being happy, lighten up. πŸ™‚

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Very glad you finally got the jabs fraid - that's a long time to wait! But good to get the pneumonia one too.

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