4-ap?

[Seifert_09]

So I have now taken both 4-ap and 4-ap-3-meoh. In my experience I have found that the 4-ap barely even helps and in some cases makes my legs heavier and less effective. On the flip side the 4-ap-3-meoh helped quite a bit in overall leg strength and movement. The unfortunate part to this whole equation is I am only able to get 4-ap through my compounding pharmacy. When I ask for , and show them the chemical structure of the 4-ap-3-meoh they are either unfamiliar with it or unwilling to add the 3 methanol to the compound . Thankfully mod4all.com comes to he rescue and is able to get it via Japan. So I am just trying to get some feedback from the community regarding this Med. Hope all is well!!!

[monkeybus]

And, do you know, I was just about to make a 4-AP-3-MeOH post.

I had a rest from it for about three weeks, had a lot of regular 4-AP to munch away on, and I wasn't that busy.

4-AP-3-MeOH is magic, pure magic. Apart from the fact it allows me to balance/walk, etc, i can do quite fine motor things, like pick things up with my toes.

I sit down a lot lately, now that I am not working so much, and I can stand up and not immediately fall over.

On 4-AP, I would need to prepare to stand up. Stretch my legs, put pressure on my toes, maybe even a quick self-massage of my calf muscles.

On 4-AP-3-MeOH I can lumber to my feet quite well.

Best thing is the balance. I really can do a little dance on 4-AP-3-MeOH.

I keep threatening to, I'll post a video of me before and after 4-AP-3-MeOH.

And no side-effects, not like 4-AP.

I am glad it has a fellow user on here. How many people use it? I asked my neurologist, shrugged his shoulders.

[julie_]

I currently take 4-AP and while it helps me, I must say there are days when it feels as if none of the medications work. No side effects, just nothing.

I am ambulatory, I work out 3 times a week and walk/climb stairs when I'm not in the gym. This is not to say I don't have spasticity or spasms or pain - I have all of this, which is why I'm taking medication! I also take baclofen and have recently been increasing the dosage due to increased spasticity over the last year, but I don't like the drowsiness.

I am interested in 4-ap-3-MeOH. I'm going to make inquiries.

[monkeybus]

Seifert_09 , what happened in the end? Did you continue with the chemicals?

I have been at my Mum's house for the last month, doing nothing, not even bothering with the 4-AP, but every time I stand up, I fall right over. Started taking 4-AP just to have a shower. Could be very nasty otherwise.

I see that on the CareCure SCI forum they are arranging some sort of bulk buy of 4-AP-3-MeOH, likely to bring the price down. From what I've read, 4-AP-3-MeOH really helps with SCI. Live and learn. I am going to see if I can get in on that.

[Aaron98 in reply to monkeybus]

Monkeybus, my shower chair is one of the best purchases I ever made. It allows me to take a nice shower, even when I'm struggling with balance, fatigue, and sensory problems with my feet. I'd highly recommend one, if you don't have one yet.

[monkeybus]

Been using one for 20 years, like pre-symptomatic Monkeybus

But, maybe I've always taken the opportunity to sit down ever since.