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Hi HU community.

It's me again - don't worry I'm not asking you for a coffee this time ;-)

This follows on from another post and I think it is a great idea that could help with our afib and certainly its bedfellow anxiety. The OP was started by a new member Weren.

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Diane stepped in and suggested ETF (tapping) as a suggestion to help. I looked it up and thought what a great idea - you can learn how to do it yourself on YouTube which won't cost a penny. Sounds like a no-brainer to me - it's free and may help with afib and/or other conditions.

Due to having a few projects on the go at the moment and spending nearly 16 hours a day on this darn computer, I haven't really got the time to research and answer questions about it - however, Diane has said she will take over and reply to any questions. It's worth looking into and giving a try IMO. I'll put a copy and paste below about it below.

So over to you Diane. I will follow the thread with interest and may ask a few questions myself.

Paul

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EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques), also known as tapping, is a holistic healing technique that combines elements of Eastern and Western approaches to psychology and healing. It involves tapping on specific points on the body while focusing on a specific issue or problem in order to release negative emotions and promote emotional and physical healing.

The technique is based on the principles of acupuncture and acupressure, and it is believed that tapping on these specific points on the body can help to clear energy blockages, reduce stress and anxiety, and promote feelings of well-being. EFT can be used to address a wide range of issues, including anxiety, depression, chronic pain, phobias, addictions, and more.

EFT tapping involves a specific sequence of tapping on meridian points on the body while focusing on a particular issue or problem. This is typically done with the guidance of a trained EFT practitioner, but it can also be learned and practised on your own.

Research has shown that EFT tapping can be an effective therapy for a variety of emotional and physical issues, and it is becoming increasingly popular as a complementary therapy alongside more traditional approaches to healthcare.

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Hi Paul, I practiced something like this 20 years ago called the Metamorphic Technique. It involved tapping the head, hands and feet in a certain pattern. I have a small town near me which we call the resting place of the hippies and that's where I joined a class to find out more about it. The first time I did it I thought what a load of rubbish it was, but that afternoon I went to work and felt very odd, this feeling continued when I went to play badminton that evening. There is definitely something in it. I had never felt the way I did before. I must have been involved in it for about 3 years. Then as happens with these things the group I practiced with drifted apart. My next venture in that town was massage and off I drifted. Have had a go at many alternatives therapies since.I wonder if EFT is the Metamorphic Technique renamed. Couldn't find any link about it in your post.

Jean

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Paulbounce in reply to jeanjeannie50

Hi Jean.

No, they are different. Here's a copy and paste about this.

Diane lives in a different timezone than us and I'm sure she will explain tomorrow. Have a lovely evening Jean.

Paul

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EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques) and the Metamorphic Technique are not the same thing and are not simply different names for one another.

EFT is a form of energy psychology that involves tapping on specific acupressure points on the body while focusing on a particular issue or problem, with the goal of reducing negative emotions and promoting emotional healing. The technique is based on the principles of traditional Chinese medicine and has been used to treat a variety of issues, including anxiety, depression, and post-traumatic stress disorder.

The Metamorphic Technique, on the other hand, is a form of energy healing that involves gentle touch on specific areas of the feet, hands, and head, with the goal of promoting personal growth and transformation. The technique is based on the idea that there is a life force energy within all of us that can be released and transformed through gentle touch.

While both EFT and the Metamorphic Technique involve working with energy and the body's natural healing abilities, they are distinct practices with their own unique methodologies and goals.

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Tilly1957 in reply to jeanjeannie50

hi Jean, I am a complementary therapist (retired) of over 33 years and have used both these techniques. They are fundamentally different, but both very good. EFT is simple and works on Meriden/acupressure points. I still use that to help myself today. Xx

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CDreamer

I trained as an EFT Practitioner in 2002/3 and have always used it since in various practice both personal and professional. You can learn from videos however it’s much more effective if you find a qualified practitioner and there are a lot around. It’s very different from counselling and it’s more than described in your post - it’s a mix of touch/breath based on meridians similar to acupuncture combined with modern psychology - which is why the set up phrase needs to be very accurate and the protocol (there are many versions) needs to be repeated.

Tapping has been used by various doctors and practitioner for many years however Gary Craig cornered the market and called this practice EFT - and marketed it very well so it became very popular in the 1990’s and although it has progressed since is probably the best researched and known protocol. I have to say the practice of tapping dates back a long way but Gary introduced the psychology element.

emofree.com/

I posted about EFT many times, over many years.

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Thanks for that CD. I haven't heard of it before and didn't see any of your posts about it. It's late now and I'm going for some kip. However, I'll use the search box tomorrow and see if I can find them - sounds interesting.

Night all.

Paul

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CDreamer in reply to Paulbounce

Probably posted a long time ago now Paul - I used it a lot personally when I was still working. It was quite useful as I found I could delay an AF episode whilst still at the office - I say delay because EFT worked if I used the protocol as soon as I felt symptoms - but AF always caught up with me when I got home. I know that sounds really odd, but that is what happened.

I came to realise that my traumas needed much deeper work and the therapy I have gained most from now is Craniosacral therapy as it works for me on multiple levels and more directly with Autonomic Nervous System.

I think everyone responds differently and to different therapies at different times of their lives and I and many other therapists had a saying - ‘The lesson will appear when the student is ready’ and I have found that so true. Doesn’t matter who or what - as long as it helps and there is more life after.

The great advantage of EFT is that deeper you delve - the more places it takes you - but you can also use it as self taught stress easer in the moment so very versatile.

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Paulbounce in reply to CDreamer

Hi CD.

Once again I haven't heard of Craniosacral therapy. I had a quick look and Mr Chatty came up with the copy and paste below. It seems that using these types of therapy alongside your medic's advice is a good idea. I'm going to dig deeper into the whole subject.

Paul

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Craniosacral therapy (CST) is a form of alternative therapy that involves gentle manipulation of the bones of the skull and the sacrum (the triangular bone at the base of the spine) to improve the flow of cerebrospinal fluid, which surrounds the brain and spinal cord. CST is based on the idea that the bones of the skull are not rigidly fixed, but can be gently manipulated to improve the functioning of the nervous system, alleviate pain, and promote healing.

Practitioners of craniosacral therapy use very light touch and subtle manipulations to release restrictions in the craniosacral system, which includes the bones, membranes, and cerebrospinal fluid that surround and protect the brain and spinal cord. By gently mobilizing the craniosacral system, CST practitioners aim to improve the body's ability to heal itself, reduce pain and discomfort, and promote relaxation and a sense of well-being.

Craniosacral therapy is often used as a complementary therapy to support the treatment of a variety of conditions, including headaches, neck and back pain, anxiety, depression, sleep disorders, and chronic fatigue syndrome. However, it should not be used as a substitute for conventional medical care, and anyone with a serious medical condition should consult with their doctor before trying craniosacral therapy.

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CDreamer in reply to Paulbounce

you know that is absolutely not my definition and no manipulating is involved. It may have originated through osteopathy but a variety of therapeutic disciplines train in CST. I have received it from an NHS Consultant, Osteopath as well as Psychotherapist and it is a complementary therapy - NOT Alternative.

If you are interested I would direct you to craniosacral.co.uk/

To ensure you source a reputable, registered and insured therapist.

Dig deeper & PM me if you would like pointers.

Best wishes CD

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Paulbounce in reply to CDreamer

Thanks CD - I appreciate that. I won't PM you today as I'm done for the day. Need to close my eyes and have a kip in my arm chair. Tonight I aim to be in bed very early - I really need to get some sleep.

Many thanks Paul

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wilsond

It is excellent. One of my sons uses this technique and has shown me.

Works for us! Taptap...xx

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Paulbounce in reply to wilsond

Heh Wil. I woke up this morning with a tap on the door - the plumber thinks he’s funny.

Oh dear!

Paul

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wilsond in reply to Paulbounce

Lol😀

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Tryfan

I have used Tapping in my own daily Tai Chi Qi Gong regime. The Tapping Solution an American site is the best I have found. Free to join with lots of Instruction for lots of situations/conditions. Some apps are charged for but lots free. The Tapping Solution.com. I have no affiliation but found it a great source of information.

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Paulbounce in reply to Tryfan

Thanks Tryfan. Worth checkin' out.

Paul

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secondtry

Thanks Paul. I expect this could be useful for some. I have difficulty committing to such techniques despite believing in them...if that makes sense 🤔. However I am trying to listen to my body more and act. Along these lines I have found tapping/applying pressure just above the bridge of the nose helps me to relax/dial down a headache.

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Paulbounce in reply to secondtry

That's good news Secondtry. I think there's some mileage in tapping - For sure I'm going to jump in. It sounds like Tryfans link is a good place to start. I haven't got the time to go through the site this morning but will do so later.

thetappingsolution.com/

Paul

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hi, I learned tapping fro a therapist a few years ago when I was recovering from cancer. I had quite severe anxiety, depression and insomnia.

It took a while for me to feel confident using it but when I did it was very effective. I would totally recommend trying it.

My therapist gave me a sheet with pictures and instructions showing the areas to tap.I’m sure you could get something similar from Utube. I think that whilst you’re concentrating on tapping you don’t think about anything else. It is soothing.

I’m sorry I can’t help more as I can’t find my sheet.

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Paulbounce in reply to stargazer52

Thanks Star for your reply. I'm pleased to read it worked for you.

Paul

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Dianeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Where are you lolz. Tapping seems to work for many - I hope you have time today to reply to the thread and pass on some of your knowledge.

Many thanks Paul

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Heh TT1. I'm off indeed - I want to be first past the post. I know you like silly jokes so here's one for you.

Scientists have recently discovered a food that greatly reduces sex drive. It’s called wedding cake.

I shouldn't put that on really as it's not afib related and this is a serious medical forum. Still, I hope it gives you a chuckle.

It's the last one today though*

Paul

*Maybe

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Snowgirl65

I used to do a tapping technique when I'd be in an a-fib episode -- something I learned online so decided to try it. I have to admit that it minimized my very symptomatic symptoms (squirrel running around inside my chest) or at least took my mind off it. I lightly tapped the pulse point on my wrists and also just above the outer edges of my eyebrows. It's worth a try.

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That's great Snow. Sounds like it helps with afib as it did with you. There must something in this one.

Enjoy your day.

Paul

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JOY2THEWORLD49

Hi

I am lucky.

I hav my little mini schnauzer put her paws up to side of my bed to get her daily stroking and patting.

I feel that she helps alot.

I recommend getting a dog or if you are cat lover a cat.

cheri JOY

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Paulbounce in reply to JOY2THEWORLD49

Sure, Joy. A pet can be a great companion. When I am older I will have a dog but ATM it wouldn't be fair due to my lifestyle and travel etc.

Paul

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JOY2THEWORLD49 in reply to Paulbounce

Hi

My little mini schnauzer comes in the van everywhere with me. She got used to as a pup to be locked in her safe room as I disappeared for all day bowls.

Its what they get used to.

Even the 1/2 minute wee cry is not there now.

She sure is excited when I arrive home.

But I am retired but have had a wee mini schnauzer since 1991 even taking the first one to UK with me. Yes 6 mths quarantine.

She is named JAZ 9 the latest one.

cheri JOY

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Electricblue1

just tried tapping for the first time and it’s very relaxing so thank you.

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