Hormone Therapy and AF

[tombeaux]

While most of the hormone replacement protocols in the UK are challenged, with the exception of the one man in Brussels who then became targeted by the establishment, has anyone noticed any changes to their AF or syncope when using any hormones and more specifically testosterone and growth hormone?

[RiderontheStorm]

There are no facts supporting conclusively anything related to AF or blood clotting issues from T replacement.

[tombeaux in reply to RiderontheStorm]

You AF statement needs to be researched. What I can say conclusively is that TRT is responsible, in part, for cellular regeneration, especially muscle, especially myocytes, to include cardiac. Also, the landmark clinical study that cited over 1000 men for a few years states 530ng/dL to be a close approximation as target level that in or around there, depending on your bio-individuality, that you reduce stroke and heart attack by 30%.

As for your statement regarding clotting: respectfully we differ. TRT in men over 40 often (majority) causes polycithemia, increase in plasma pack, which is why one engaging TRT should track hct/hgb labs.

Plus TRT will increase aramotase, which in turn increases estradiol (E2) which in turn causes an elevation in blood pressure plus it increases the viscosity of the blood.

[BobD Volunteer]

Well I had three years of hormone treatment to STOP testosterone following prostate cancer surgery and it had no affect on my AF positive or negative, neither did it affect my INR.

[tombeaux in reply to BobD]

The only way cellular proliferation can occur in the prostate is in the presence of elevated E2 (estradiol). T in and of itself has been proven to be falsely blamed for prostate cancer. In an estrogen enriched environment T can accelerate proliferation. Also, there is an argument that the imbalance with epiTestosterone, an epimer an AntiAndrogen, is at the root of prostate cancer.

[BobD Volunteer in reply to tombeaux]

That is not the subject. You asked if hormones affected AF is all.

[tombeaux in reply to BobD]

..and they do. Specifically the GH feedback loop and appropriate reinstated T levels.

[tombeaux in reply to BobD]

and you opened the door with your prostate. just addressing what you raised

[RiderontheStorm]

You asked us a personal question and then unloaded on us. It makes you look like a troll that you was waiting to cut and paste medical theory. Asking what seems like a laypersons personal question and then reciting medical jargon of a scientific approach makes us wonder why you even asked, other than hear yourself speak. I have personal information to add about TRT but will not as you will undoubtedly argue whatever I have personally experienced in 10 years ongoing of such intramuscular injection therapy. And that is not the reason for this forum.

[tombeaux in reply to RiderontheStorm]

no personal attacks i asked a simple question. plenty of documentation that hormone therapy, especially thyroid, plays a major role.

It is not to hear myself speak. it is to confirm a broader band of fellow AFers that are experiencing significant betterment to AF/syncope.

I am not here to grandstand I am here to sample a random group and to share in various findings and experiences.

However, people so shut down and narrow minded as you, that want to hurl accusations of me being a troll, make my pursuit to love people unconditionally very challenging.

[10gingercats]

I thought this forum was for the layperson trying to get some help and advice from those willing to share their experiences....we are not guinea pigs 'Mr' Tombeaux.

[tombeaux in reply to 10gingercats]

Guinea Pigs? I am sharing my experiences. I am seeking advice and I am a lay person. By your definition I am here for the very reasons you state. I have not asked anyone to engage anything or given directives or medical advice. I have shared what works for me and my research findings.

I am not here to commiserate. I am here to better myself and if in so doing others glean something for them, then great.