Massage?

[Lindabob]

I have PAF, I take Bisoprolol and Rivaroxaban daily. What is the opinion about having a full body massage, is it a good idea or could it cause bruising because of anticoagulation drugs? Any comments from all you wonderful people greatly appreciated

[dedeottie]

For me it would be worth the bruises to have a massage.x

[Lindabob in reply to dedeottie]

Thanks, I am very tempted 😊

[iris1205 in reply to dedeottie]

thinking Of you deodottie!

[dedeottie in reply to iris1205]

Thank you Iris. X

[shirlygirly]

I have had them with no problems couldnt see why not but others may

disagree. I also take the same medication as yourself.

[Lindabob in reply to shirlygirly]

I was under the impression that too much massage would be likely to bruise. But I might have to give it a go, thanks for your reply 😊

[Hidden]

I'm on Warfarin and had deep, heavy massage round my neck and shoulders many times and not had any problems.

Koll

[Lindabob in reply to Hidden]

Thanks Koll, I think I shall have to make an appt 😊

[Lindabob in reply to Hidden]

Thanks 😊

[Hidden]

I'd love a massage - I would think a good masseur wouldn't leave bruising...

Lis

[Lindabob in reply to Hidden]

Me too !

[rosyrosie]

I have regular massage every six weeks. I am on Wafarin. As I have a very firm massage on back etc, I always ask to have more lightly on lower legs where I can bruise quite easily. Massges vary so much. Someone who has been trained for a long time will often very firm. I have just changed medication to Rivaroxaban this week so yet to have a massage while on this medication.

[Lindabob in reply to rosyrosie]

Thanks so much for taking the time to reply rosyrosie 😊

[Barb1]

Both my consultants and masseurs have advised not due to the risk of haematoma

I settle for facials and reflexology

[Lindabob in reply to Barb1]

Ooooo.... It's never straightforward is it 😊

[MarkS]

I have a regular sports massage every month. It's a deep tissue massage with an elbow used to get really into the muscle. It works very well for me, particularly on my back which can get very tense and my calves where I've had strains in the past. I'm on warfarin and I've had no problems other than making sure my head's in the right position to avoid pressure on my eyes (those holes in the board aren't very good).

[Lindabob in reply to MarkS]

That sounds painful 😊

[MarkS in reply to Lindabob]

It is initially! My back twitches involuntarily. Then my muscles relax and it becomes a very pleasant sensation.

The worst pain I had during a massage was when I had repeatedly torn my calf muscle playing hockey and scar tissue had built up. I was working in Edinburgh so I went to a clinic there and saw an Australian. He had a kind of knuckle duster which he worked into my calf muscles to beak up the scarring. I virtually had to be pulled off the ceiling. That carried on for half an hour. However it did fix it. With exercise and stretching I've never had another calf problem. So no pain no gain!

[CDreamer]

Always had one at least once a month and the only time I had a problem was once when i had a lot of very deep work done on thoracic region and I believe it may have triggered an episode, but hard to be sure.

Never had any bruising, if you have a good therapist there should never be any bruising.

The clinic I attend work with fascia release and trigger points as I have very tight and painful muscles and joints. This for me is far more affective than deep muscle work.

I really do not see any reason to not to if you enjoy it but I would be really careful about quizzing the therapist and their training and understanding of AF.

Reflexology is also excellent and I think better for some things but unfortunately I cannot find a good one in my area.

[Pdotg]

Rivaroxaban doesn't make me bruise more easily, in fact it seems to have the opposite effect. I've never had a body massage, but if it rough enough to cause bruising then I don't think I ever will!

[tbs2214]

Hi Lindabob I have AF and high blood pressure (controlled) I was given a full body massage voucher for Xmas and they refused to give me it. Needless tp say I was gutted.

[Froggy]

I am a qualified Swedish masseur ( I'm not Swedish, that is the massage!) and the only precaution one should take is NOT to massage over bruises. Massages, no matter how deep, will not cause bruising in the right hands. Enjoy! x

[SAMBS]

hi Lindabob, Ive snuck in on this one from 2 other associations I need for some conditions I have - but Gobsmacked of course at your title - with Delight I was! I'd forgotten that when back in UK in my Local WI several of us went to Denman College in Oxfordshire to do 2.5 day courses there. One of which I did was an aromatherapy/massage course - a sorry you're leaving, welcome back from France , it was brilliant we used to practice on each other in the course room. The benefits are amazing and I even made up several jars of massage oils to bring back with me. S Yes a good idea for the health benefits it can bring, shiatsu also - I've just had a quick look at my aromatherapy books - but no I'm not a qualified therapist - I just did a course and learnt much.

However, a small word of caution to you et al - we were told by our tutor it is important the hopefully qualified Therapist, has a chat with the 'client' i.e. 'you' beforehand, about any health issues they may have or specific allergies. The use of the essential oils aides a smoother massage, but the oils are also absorbed by the skin - and if you have a few meds floating around your body also, I hope you see why I am just passing on the advice we were given. It is better they complement each other rather than an oil aggravating a situation. My 2 almost new books, I picked up for a song in local UK charity shops about 10 years ago. (The essential Aromatherapy book by Csrole McGivery and Jimi Reed) and (Aromatherpy Massage and Yoga by the 2 above +Mira Mehta) and both pblished by Lorenze Books. I can't comment on the Yoga - but I did have Aromatherapy and do Tai Chi whilst taking Thyroxine meds, with no problem. I've since had a spontaneous brain haemorrhage here, been diagnosed with a 'blood disorder; also now cirrhosis but fortunately alcohol and C both ruled out. I do get brain tremors occasionally, have several dead brain cells where nerves aren't sending messages so bad neural responses to a few of the 5 senses.

Not a problem cos on doing some personal research, with help and support from my HU associations think I may be on the verge of the breakthrough link to mmake me happier I'm on the righ track.

Hence my whoopee at your discussion title - yet another source for me track down over here now - thanks!!!!!

I hope I may have helped you think a bit clearer now also, you can find your info through the internet and amazon of course - just as I will also. I know the French lead quite healthy lifestyles but not if that would include massage/aromatherapy. Find someone well qualified, have a telephone chat with them and then make your decision and appointment.

ps sorry for delay with my reply as been zonked out for about a week and now on loads more prescribed meds, this time all soluble not tabs, [easier absorption less side effects so far! except for 1, I'd rather not have to take - I hate them!

Good luck, hope it goes well for you and anyone else who follows the path. Tests may produce l ab results but nobody knows our bodies and minds better than we know our own.

Shirley x

[Lindabob in reply to SAMBS]

Thanks so much for taking the time for such a full response, all adds to the choices to make :))

[SAMBS in reply to Lindabob]

de rien - no problem