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TA,

Ssome time ago, u posted about the use of over the counter supplements. I think that your basic message was to stay away from them unless they are known to be harmless, such as vitamin C. As my memory correct? If not, what is your feeling on the subject?

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MrG68

There are some supplements like serrapeptase and nattokinase which i regard as very good. Vitamin D3 is worth consideration if youre deficient. But sun or a health lamp exposure is, IMO, far superior since it will be sulfated.Im personally not against them, but the issue as I see it, is supplements can cause imbalances in your body. So I would only take them if there is a good reason to. You'll be better off getting these from food.

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Tall_Allen

There is no reason to take any supplement unless your serum levels are too low. You have no idea what is really in the bottle, possible interactions with other drugs, and even less idea of how it may be messing with your biochemistry. Dr. Google or Dr.AI is not wiser than billions of years of evolution.

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Tjc1 in reply toTall_Allen

So, why the untested vaccine rollout 🤔. Our bodies do have an immune system.

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6357axbz in reply toTjc1

What untested vaccine rollout?

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Tall_Allen in reply toTjc1

All vaccines are tested. The effectiveness of all vaccines rely on the fact that we have immune systems.

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fast_eddie

Did you even have to ask? We all know TA hates supplements and isn't shy about saying so. He is this site's supplement scold and has been since he joined.

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6357axbz

What untested vaccine rollout?

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Professorgary

I take curcumin and magnesium because of heart protection. I am on Celebrex for degenerative disc disease. Without the curcumin and magnesium I sometimes suffer an irregular heartbeat, with them no issues. I take vitamin D to raise the level to 45. I also do cleansing fasts. 8 days liquids only with oral salt water enemas. I recently sat down with Samuel Denmeade and went over my 24 year cancer history and his word was incredible. He wanted to know everything I did including the recipe for the drink I used and believe it or not when I told him I had pics of my stool at the beginning of the cleanse and the end of the cleanse he wanted to see them. He also told me they have 6 stool donors at present. He didn’t say if it was to research bacteria strains or to transplant into patients. It’s kind of funny, the doctor who ranks in the top 150 prostate cancer doctors in the nation according to Newsweek has an interest in my alternative journey and the nobodies all say it’s anecdotal and not science backed and showed no interest. Remember, this is the guy who after decades of surpressing testosterone he came up with the idea of boosting it. Have an open mind, try it and decide for yourself and totally ignore the naysayers, most of whom never tried what they are naysaying. God bless.

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middlejoel in reply toProfessorgary

Wow! Professor, talk about alternatives. I asked the Q through this posting because, over the past 70 years or so, (I am 88) I have not needed nor used either alternaties nor prescription meds., but...19 years ago, I came down with cancer. Ever since, I have slowly been adding more and more "stuff" to treat my late-blooming health issues..... A-Fib, leaky heart valve, AMD, Brain tumor, seizures, ruptured lower back disk,

Recently, I had a reation to what I think was prolia, a bone strenthening drug. Bottom line, I had a great, heathy life, always in great shape. Diet mostly soups, fism, vegetables, fruits, a little pasta and a little red meat, not too much sweets.

I tend to agree with TA here. Going to review all the supps I am taking and keep on ly what I consider essential. Don't want to live another 88 years and yes, Getting old is overrated...... but....

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Jewelrylady in reply tomiddlejoel

Do you think your afib is from meds you take for PC? What do you take for afib. My husband was just diagnosed with this and is taking Lopressor

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middlejoel in reply toJewelrylady

Could be, I've had PCa for nearly 20 years, before I came down with A-Fib, but no way to know for sure. .

The problem treating A-Fib is that the BP goes from high to low. Current meds either treat high or low, not both. Treating hight preasure could damage low presure and vice versa.

I am taking Eliques as prescribed. Eliques is a blood thiner to protec from the formation of blood clots. Not sure if that is the right med because I have thin blood to beig with.

Over the years, a couple of docs have suggested a pacemaker. I didn't want to go through the process at my age.

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Jewelrylady in reply tomiddlejoel

Thank you. 20 years is incredible! Did your doctor talk with you about an ablation procedure for Afib? The lopressor lowers his heart rate. His BP has been normal. He got an iwatch that can let him know how often he is in Afib.

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Professorgary in reply tomiddlejoel

Do yourself a favor. Google curcumin, magnesium and Afib. This is only one reason I believe in taking supplements. God bless.

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NecessarilySo

There are ingredients in real food that kill prostate cancer cells. For example, lycopenes in tomato products, piperine in black pepper, and capsaicin in hot peppers. Supplements don't seem to work. That's my experience, anyway.

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Professorgary in reply toNecessarilySo

What you say is true to a point. The issues arrive when we take drugs to treat the cancer like ADT that can raise bp, glucose levels, cause heart issues, lipids and thin bones. Take some time and research curcumin and magnesium and their effect on the above listed issues. They both lower bp and have protective effects on the heart. Magnesium helps protect the bones as well. Curcumin causes the body to be insulin sensitive and helps stabilize lipids.

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6357axbz

What untested vaccine rollout?

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j-o-h-n

I'm a 1936-er too............ been fighting this sucker for 22 years. Eat what you want before it eats you. Use OTC meds if you want/need to. As we used to say long time ago "See ya in the movies"...

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n

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middlejoel in reply toj-o-h-n

I like it

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fast_eddie

"Eat good food and variety of it and the majority of men will be just fine." That's the rub. I don't do the shopping or the cooking. If I did my diet would probably be worse. I'm glad you consider TA 'an authority in all things prostate cancer'. I don't. I'll refrain from expressing my opinion of him.

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