White Mushrooms and other recommendations from Dr. Dorff at City Of Hope

[Gl448]

I'm always skeptical about the foods as cures posts here, but the last couple of patient news letters from City of Hope have highlighted some of their studies on food and food extracts as tools against prostate and breast cancers. The mushroom study included human in vivo via "white mushroom powder."

So I asked Dr. Dorff about white mushrooms and just eating the real food to get the compounds (as many here jump onto doing when a food study comes out based on compounds/extracts injected into mice), since I'd started eating them daily.

Her response was that "it was 28 pills per day on our trial...it was a big chunk of powder (she held her hand out to demonstrate)." I said just eating mushrooms wasn't the same thing, and she said "I don't know, seems like we really had to escalate the dose in the trial to get results."

She did add that there was "other stuff that seemed to be helpful like pomegranate juice, lycopene, soy, and green tea, so having those things in your diet has to be a positive." She didn't mention blueberries but they are one of the things painted on the walls.

"Seemed to be helpful" is a long way from cure in my mind, but like I say in many responses here, they won't hurt you, but I wouldn't expect them to cure you.

My bottom line is be skeptical of studies that don't include human trials, and realize that compounds and extracts injected into rodents don't always translate into the same results in humans, and would probably require much larger doses. And I've seen smarter people than me post here that they are leery of supplements because of dosing.

Just thought I'd share those comments. I love mushrooms and will continue eating some grilled ones frequently, but for the taste, not in hopes of being a real impact on my aPCA.

[mrscruffy]

I eat Maui Platinum and Golden Teacher varieties for an entirely different reason. Interesting side effect is it eliminates pain for a while, at least for me

[treedown]

If you enjoy eating that stuff seems like a no brainer to me. It doesn't have to be a cure or nothing reason. If it has any value for overall health or at best slows progression, again a no brainer.

[Gl448 in reply to treedown]

I agree, but I frequently see someone post a rat study, and then others jumping in and saying how much should I eat of that to get results.

It’s all premature. Eat what you want but don’t expect in vivo or rat testing of extracts to do anything special And jump into foods for just that purpose.

[treedown in reply to Gl448]

I agree.

[spencoid2]

I have recently re-discovered white mushrooms and did read something about health benefits. Anyway they taste great and add flavor to any dish so why not?

[Gl448 in reply to spencoid2]

Tossed in olive oil and a splash of soy then air-fryed at 390° for 6 minutes. Yum.

Raw is great too.

[chefjlu]

The Prostate Cancer Foundation has a "Periodic Table of Microbiome-Friendly Foods". They are necessarily cures as such, but they feed the gut biome and boost our immune system. Research continues on the impact of the microbiome in our gut and how it relates to disease. It never hurts to include many of these foods into your diet. They also supply a wide array of nutrients/phytochemicals/anti-oxidants, fiber and variety to the diet. In regards to mushrooms various kinds have shown higher levels of activity against disease including cancer.

[Gl448 in reply to chefjlu]

Agree

[j-o-h-n]

Chocolate chip white mushroom ice cream (two scoops)...

j-o-h-n <===<<< Senior management is about to spike my spikes....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Thursday 04/06/2023 12:19 PM DST

[LifeQuality in reply to j-o-h-n]

My daughter just asked me what kind of ice cream I'd like her to make for my birthday. Thanks for the perfect suggestion, j-o-h-n!

[j-o-h-n in reply to LifeQuality]

LOL you're quite welcome.....now if I could only find my copy of the recipe....in the city dump...... (Happy Birthday to the young lady..... tons and tons more for your daughter and for you)....

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Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Friday 04/07/2023 12:51 PM DST