I am in the seventh month of ADT after recurrence, increasing fat two fast, at the same time losing lean mass.
I increased the exercise frequency, but struggling to keep the routine, had to decrease the workout wheights in one third already. Thinking on trying Osterine, but afraid of more SEs, and concerned about any direct effect it could have on PC. I appreciate any insight you can have.
Thank you in advance.
Increasing your exercise intensity is more important than frequency. You should have a trainer if you can afford one, but it’s not essential.
Have you changed how much you’re eating?
It’s not easy I know, but these two things matter much more than adding any supplements.
I agree, but I´m upset on how difficult became to keep my workouts, decreasing wheights is depressing.
I´ve doing WO for about 20 years, had a PT most of the time, by myself now. Changed from 2 WO /2 Cardios week (1h) to 3 WO/3 Cardios (45 min) to be able to finish them. Work 10h/day, can´t use more time.
I do IF 16/8, everyday, cuting more food put my energy really down.
I appreciate your comments, and anything else you can suggest.
I’m sorry you need to work 10 hours a day, that definitely doesn’t help. What type of work is it, physical, sitting etc?
Is there any opportunity to work less in the near future? 10 hr/day at 60 on ADT, that is tough.
Software engineer, seated in front a computer all day. Although I love my work, and help me when I overthink about PC, I am trying to figure out how to do it, before ADT fires me.
10 hours a day sitting I would try to change in whatever way possible. I know it may not be, I feel for you.
If possible, change to a standing table which will be a lot better for your body. Even better - add a treadmill under the table. I walked on a treadmill at a slow pace when working 8-12 hours a day (with pauses when needed) for years.
Thanks for sharing, very helpful
I found this fro NIH. Says lowers T, shrinks prostate build muscle, reduces fat. Sounds good to me, but….”if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is”. Maybe?ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...
Thanks for the article, in my researchs I also could not find anything "bad" about it.
Although it proved some good outcomes, also had a couple failures to get approval from FDA. Wonder if that's the main reazon it's not more used. MO doesn't want to evaluate the possibility.
Both are risky, and steroids are a ‘all in’ proposition at our age. Both quite attractive I’m sure, especially the SARMs. That’s a Wild West market though. How do you even know what you’re getting? Let us know how it works for you.
That´s an impressive research, I started reading but will take some time!
I really aprecciate your time on the post.
ya smurtaw is a godsend. Thanks to him and his research/posts i have turned my joint, muscle pain snd tiredness from ADT Lupron and ARI Darolutamide around on 10/mg day of Osterine and Cardarine. I have been on these SARMs now for three months now and have tests coming up in 3 weeks and i plan on posting my psa, testosterone and liver numbers then.
I am so grateful to have found this site
Thanks for sharing. I hope to see a great outcome on these tests for you ! Let us know.
KocoPr,
I googled Cardarine and found the following:
It entered into clinical development as a drug candidate for metabolic and cardiovascular diseases, but was abandoned in 2007 because animal testing showed that the drug caused cancer to develop rapidly in several organs.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GW501516
Sounds a little scary?
I had been on both cardarine and osterine for one year. 5 months into lupron I experienced joint and muscle pain/weakness, i was tired. Then i got on Orgovyx and darolutamide and at same time i started 10 mg of both cardarine and osterine. I had 0 liver or any other SE. it gave me energy, reduced joint and muscle pain.
Anyone with similar experience?
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Great news to share!
