Drinking milk with or without rBSR and BGH and prostate cancer.

[lewicki]

It seems that countries around the world that consume dairy products have a higher rate of prostate cancer. Could it be from these additives to the cow or it just is something to avoid?

[Tall_Allen]

Avoid drawing bad conclusions from low level studies.

[EdBacon]

This topic has been exhaustively written about on this forum.

I would highly recommend anyone interested to just review the many comments and posts all ready here rather than starting yet another food fight.

Here are just a few of many.

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[Andy1569 in reply to EdBacon]

Solid advise from you both! (Ed & T_A

[EdBacon in reply to Andy1569]

Thanks. This nonsense about dairy isn't even relevant for an advanced prostate group. nobody who has advanced prostate cancer is going to live a day longer if they stop drinking milk or eating ice cream. Giving up things you enjoy for nothing is not popular with the terminally ill.

[lewicki in reply to EdBacon]

Agreed

[CAMPSOUPS in reply to EdBacon]

You can say that again.

Besides that there's risk/ reward. The estimated expiration date(s) kinda negates the reward ha.

[MarkBC]

I agree with the above comments. My bone specialist told me to continue my moderate consumption of the dairy products I enjoy. It's good for bone health.

[Don_1213]

As soon as I hear the phrase "Could it be..?" I mentally flashback to the "docudrama" TV series The Curse of Oak Island, where "Could it be.." proceeds questionable questions like "Could it be (pause) that ancient aliens dropped gold on the island?"

Sure it could be the milk theory is true. But based on the evidence, chances are about equal to the ancient aliens' dropping gold theory. "Could it be" always seems to precede absurd statements that are strictly conjecture, given with little or no proof.

Could it be? Maybe. Or maybe not. Your call on this one at a personal level. It won't change anything I do if you accept that conjecture and change your eating habits. And if it makes you feel that you're doing something positive maybe it will help you somehow.

[lewicki in reply to Don_1213]

I read on Wikipedia the per capita of prostate occurrence of different countries . It seemed that Europe , the north america and Australia have a much larger incidence of Pca where countries such as India, china ,Iran etc. Countries that are not using dairy in their diet. This why I wrote to Health unblocked FYI.

[Don_1213 in reply to lewicki]

Again - that doesn't take into account things like entirely different diets from the US/Euro diets, or how many cases are diagnosed vs how many cases there actually are. It's too simplistic a conjecture. I think TA said it best.

[lewicki in reply to Don_1213]

I just have a problem with not knowing how I got this demon that had altered my life so much.

[EdBacon in reply to lewicki]

Even if you could know, how does that change anything? You always have to look forward and not backward. That's how I see it anyway.

[CAMPSOUPS in reply to lewicki]

Are your families genetics a background of any of the countries you mentioned?

[lewicki in reply to CAMPSOUPS]

North eastern europe. Both parents.

[CAMPSOUPS in reply to lewicki]

I guess that's just my way of saying men in the countries you mentioned if their culture had instead included milk/dairy they still may have had a low incidence of PC due to their genetics. Milk or no Milk.

[dhccpa]

Thanks for posting. I appreciate legitimate alternative posts.

I don't think one can fairly compare RCTs for new Rx FDA regulated drugs with food items, or even supplements, Rx drugs are made, in the case of cancer, to stop the beast in it's tracks, at least for a while. Changes in diet take much longer to show effect, plus studies depend on self reporting, or large population analyses.

I started conventional treatment right away, then made radical changes to consumption habits. Down 40 lbs, dropped blood pressure meds and glucose is much better.

It's a race against time.

Can the lifestyle changes work before Lupron (and later treatments) fail, Batman?

Stay tuned, Robin.

Note, though, that many don't like reading about giving up consumption items they like. Who would?

[lewicki in reply to dhccpa]

Actually at the age of 82 and battling the beast for 24 years diet should not matter much unless it helps me make to the big 100. I agree . I agree. A leg of lamb sounds good.

[lewicki]

I for got I wrote about this. It is getting worse.