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What is the optimal length of time for taking Xgeva?

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Mr. Spouse21 has been on Xgeva for nearly two years. What's the latest research on getting the most optimal benefit from it without staying on it too long? He does have some side effects of weird aches and pains for around a week after he gets the monthly shot. His local oncologist talked about getting more infrequent shots but we can't find any research on this approach. Anybody more updated on Xgeva than we are? Thanks.

P.S. I updated Mr. Spouse21's profile, which shows continued stability post-Docetaxel, which ended in May, 2020, a year and a half ago when he got his 10th infusion. So he's gotten decent mileage from chemo so far.

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I'm not certain, but I have been on xgeva for four years and no one said anything about stopping.

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Purple-Bike in reply toMagnus1964

No side effects? I sent a list of supposed SEs to MateoBeach: fatigue 45 %, diarrhea 31 % etc. Perhaps they are vastly exaggerated.....

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Magnus1964 in reply toPurple-Bike

Everyone responds differently to medications.

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Dr Saad thinks a vacation is good after 2 years.

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MateoBeach

The less intensive regimen using the same drug, denosumab, is called Prolia. It is 60 mg only every six months. After initial period with Xgeva, it would seem to be appropriate to switch to Prolia for ongoing maintenance, unless there is some reason to do otherwise.

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Hey Mateo! My mo just told me that some Xgeva guys get 120

Mg per month. He said that the 60 mg prolia every 6 months is tiny in comparison.

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It is a good point, Scott. 12 X total higher dose over a year. Xgeva is indicated for cancers with metastasis to bones, whereas Prolia just for osteopenia / porosis. So for bone protection and for metastasis prevention it is not clear. Xgeva probably to be sure. And it can be self (or wife) administered at home. I’m going to ask my MO in January about increasing my dose, perhaps 120 mg (Xgeva) every three months?Among the several benefits of melatonin in prostate cancer, protecting against bone metastasis by the similar mechanism (RANKL inhibition) is among them. I am going to resume nightly melatonin.

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Purple-Bike in reply toMateoBeach

Do you think melatonin could be a stand-alone alternative to Xgeva against bone mets, instead of combining both?

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MateoBeach in reply toPurple-Bike

Both appear to be beneficial. Denosumab is more powerful bone protector via RANKL inhibition. But melatonin seems to have multiple mechanisms of possibly benefiting in PC. So I choose both, at least Prolia, perhaps Xgeva and also melatonin at bed time at least a few nights per week. I want it all on my side.

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Purple-Bike in reply toMateoBeach

Thanks. What dose of melatonin will you choose, and why not daily, side effects seem to be benign?

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MateoBeach in reply toPurple-Bike

There is accumulated evidence that melatonin will be a favorable component during PC treatment by multiple mechanisms. Easy to find that research and come to that conclusion. And yes it is clearly safe across a broad range of dosages. But the dosage for helping fight PC is not clear. Many sources mention 10 to 20 mg nightly which seems reasonable (vs 3 mg often advised for insomnia). We cannot expect prompt change in PSA from starting or stopping it. So it is partly a matter of faith that there will be some benefit over time and very low risk. I take breaks from it at , times as it can cause me weird nightmares. At present I use 10 mg for no particular reason other than I am comfortable with that. Just a personal choice given the uncertainty. Paul

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I get Xgeva 120 mg injection every 12 weeks. Had a Dexa scan and a dental check up before starting. Been on it 14 months. Started 2 months after starting ADT with Firmagon, and 1 month after Dexa scan. Taking lots of calcium and Vit D.No side effects from Xgeva shot under back side of left arm near shoulder.

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I think that is a very sensible dosing: mid level.

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