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ADT Vacation - first month being off Firmagon. PSA was .014 & Testos. 3 - After a month vacation - PSA .08 & T159 - any thoughts?

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I was a gleason 9 with lymph node involvement. No distant mets. Did HDBrachy with 25 sessions of IMRT.

I was DX 2 1/2 years ago. This is my first vacation . I'm off all drugs.

I've been on Firmagon for 2 1/2 years.

Stopped 35 days ago.

Small PSA rise and T went up considerably.

I still have my prostate.

Thoughts welcome

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pjoshea13

PSA will tend to rise as T increases through the hypogonadal range. Morgantaler's androgen receptor saturation point is around 250 ng/dL. You have to get above that to see what the PSA trend is. Don't read too much into early numbers.

Best, -Patrick

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kainasar in reply to pjoshea13

So it could be a number of months before PSA rates are meaningful, no? At what PSA level should one get back on ADT?

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pjoshea13 in reply to kainasar

See: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/315...

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Tall_Allen

Why do you call it a "vacation"? Isn't adjuvant ADT over, hopefully?

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Longterm101 in reply to Tall_Allen

TA I’d love that to be the case !!

Unfortunately I understand the real situation I’m in!!!

Im praying for a miracle

Pretty quick Testosterone recovery. Bet it feels good. Seems like with just radiation you should be happy with anything that low even if it appears like a modest increase

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Good question ….

My plan was to keep measuring the PSA and T levels every 30 days

Once my PSA got above 1.5 - 2 get a PSMA scan to get better insight

Any thoughts

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I think that's right and enjoy life now. What will be will be but you feel good now and it may last for many years.

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thx .... god willing!!!

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Boywonder56

Get back on the adt pony

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timotur

Keep tracking T and PSA and see how things look when your T reaches the normal range. If PSA rises above 0.5-0.7, investigate a PSMA scan. Best wishes.

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Mascouche

The end of my adt treatment is still 18 months away but when I asked my RO about psa rising once adt is over, he said that there is no follow up treatment required until the psa reaches at least 2.

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