without the ability to search just this forum i can not find the previous references to the use of selenium. what is the recommended does for us advanced PC guys. mine are 200 mcg each
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You can search this forum. Just type in selenium in the search routine
as far as i can tell searching does the whole healthunlocked system. i want information specific to advanced PC patients. most of the hits are for thyroid group?
After you get the search results, you can filter these by selecting advanced PCa on the right hand side.
Avoid if you live in a high selenium area like California. Selenium supplementation increased the risk of high-grade PCa among men with higher selenium status by 91%.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/245...
"Administration of high doses of lycopene, Green Tea Catechins, and selenium in men harboring HGPIN and/or ASAP was associated with a higher incidence of PCa at re-biopsy and expression of microRNAs implicated in PCa progression at molecular analysis. The use of these supplements should be avoided. "
thanks for the warning.
Best supplement is pizza, pizza, pizza. Especially pepperoni. Pizza is the staff of life. Ok, pizza probably gave me APC. But a life spent eating pizza, is a life well spent.
in reply to monte1111
You would have been okay if added extra anchovies.
spencoid2 in reply to
I need to bring anchovies when my friend is making pizza, I buy anchovies by the pound.
in reply to spencoid2
By the pound? How many anchovies are in a pound?
monte1111 in reply to
That's a lot of anchovies staring at you.
spencoid2 in reply to
i exaggerated, the cans are 14 ounces but I have bought more than one at a time. I have a new can, I will count them as I eat them and let you know when the can is finished. If you really need to know I can count them but they are packed like sardines (but they are anchovies) in the can and they will never fit back. If you buy these large cans get a good brand like Roland or try one can before you buy a dozen, some are awful.
spencoid2 in reply to
I picked 6 anchovies and weighed them and of courses had to eat them. The average is 3.5 grams so that is an average of 129.7142857143 anchovies per pound, approximately.
monte1111 in reply to
Or added chocolate chip ice cream - two scoops.
in reply to monte1111
now that may have been the source of your problems...pretending to be j-o-h-n.
monte1111 in reply to
Yes. I am a trans-j-o-h-n. And that's all I have to say about that.
Mascouche in reply to
You just made me realize that I have not seen a post from J-O-H-N in a while. Is he unwell?
I have a friend who makes organic vegetarian pizza, almost everything from the garden. I could probably live on that, it will certainly increase my appetite. I do try to avoid pepperoni etc but it is difficult with the husband buying all that stuff.
Husbands are always right.
DarrylPartner
you can search this way, too: Go to google and type in site:healthunlocked.com/advanced-prostate-cancer selenium
You got me on that one.
Reply Selenium can be toxic in high doses. One Brazil nut is all one needs each day.
Great I have been wanting to visit Brazil 
After reading this thread I am reducing intake from two Brazil nuts daily to one. No time to do the research, but this will hopefully mean the sweet spot between too much and too little for those of us living in selenium-poor regions.
in reply to Purple-Bike
I would recommend ditching the Brazil nuts altogether. There are much better choices. Walnuts almonds, pecans..pine nuts.
Brazil nuts are high in methionine..
Some say reducing intake can help slow pca progression.
Purple-Bike in reply to
Only now did the math. One Brazil nut has 70 - 90 mcg selenium. RDA 55 mcg. With some selenium from other foods about one nut per two days would suffice.Of the alternatives you suggested, I eat 5 - 10 walnuts per day however that will only provide a few mcg (5mcg per 100 g of walnuts, and about the same for almonds) so unfortunately those wonderful nuts don't seem to do it.
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May I inquire about the concern with getting enough selenium?
Purple-Bike in reply to
Of course!I understand delenium deficiency to be a risk factor for prostate cancer. If so it is probably not good for us with pca either. See this post by Patrick, down in the text you find the data. Deficiency is also linked to other negative health outcomes.
healthunlocked.com/advanced...
in reply to Purple-Bike
Okay...thank you...I'm not sure that what prevents cancer can turn back the clock once cancer gets a stronghold ins the body....but a good psychology is equally important so in that vein...eat away...I was just curious...thanks for your response.
i had a purple bike at one time So is the consensus that 200 mcg a day poses no risk unless already at a good selenium level? should i get a hair test? i asked my local gardener and he says their soil is supplemented with whatever the soil test recommended including micro nutrients but i need to get more details,
That's great - let's form a subgroup on this forum - Proud Purple-bikers with Prostate cancer! 🙂
Don't know about the 200mcg, possibly TallAllen's links point to a lower number.
Why go for 200 if around 60 is enough?
I will go for one Brazil nut per weekday, with nothing on weekends when I am usually away.
Count me in I have a purple bicycle and PC.
Good reply. I think there is a shortage of Brazilian nuts. There are only Peanuts around here.
Selenium is a trace element so the maximum dose would be 200 micro grams. Check the selenium content of the soil in your area with the local agricultural department. Assuming you eat local vegetables. If the selenium is present, take a very low dose.
my main source of veggies is going to check his soil report hopefully after supplementing. i'll probably get a hair test if medicare pays for it.
see:
healthunlocked.com/advanced...
-Patrick
thanks, great article. i will check the soil. during the summer we buy most of our produce from a local organic farm. maybe they have had their soil tested. what about blood testing? does serum level mean anything?
Studies tend to look at toenail clippings.
There is also a hair test.
I know that hair contains a history of drug use etc so this makes sense. Is there any correlation between old mans toenails (which I have) and selenium deficiency by any chance? I would google the answer but am getting pack to go fishing. i think this might be the first time in a long time I did anything just for fun (and the fish) I enjoy my work so I do have fun being a workaholic.
"old man's toenails" is new to me.
Incidentally, for anyone interested in such, we have:
Comparative study of trace elements in blood, scalp hair and nails of prostate cancer patients in relation to healthy donors
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/252...
Full text: sci-hub.do/10.1007/s12011-0...
-Patrick
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