selenium: without the ability to search... - Advanced Prostate...

Advanced Prostate Cancer

22,372 members•28,138 posts

selenium

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2
•63 Replies

without the ability to search just this forum i can not find the previous references to the use of selenium. what is the recommended does for us advanced PC guys. mine are 200 mcg each

Written by
spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2
To view profiles and participate in discussions please or .
Read more about...
63 Replies
•
6357axbz profile image
6357axbz

You can search this forum. Just type in selenium in the search routine

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply to6357axbz

as far as i can tell searching does the whole healthunlocked system. i want information specific to advanced PC patients. most of the hits are for thyroid group?

6357axbz profile image
6357axbz• in reply tospencoid2

At the top of each hit the specific PCa forum of the poster is clearly indicated. You can keep scrolling down until the header says Advanced Prostate Cancer

GP24 profile image
GP24

After you get the search results, you can filter these by selecting advanced PCa on the right hand side.

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply toGP24

great, i'll try that if i remember :)

tango65 profile image
tango65

Perhaps this can help

healthunlocked.com/advanced...

Tall_Allen profile image
Tall_Allen

Avoid if you live in a high selenium area like California. Selenium supplementation increased the risk of high-grade PCa among men with higher selenium status by 91%.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/245...

"Administration of high doses of lycopene, Green Tea Catechins, and selenium in men harboring HGPIN and/or ASAP was associated with a higher incidence of PCa at re-biopsy and expression of microRNAs implicated in PCa progression at molecular analysis. The use of these supplements should be avoided. "

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi...

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2

thanks for the warning.

monte1111 profile image
monte1111

Best supplement is pizza, pizza, pizza. Especially pepperoni. Pizza is the staff of life. Ok, pizza probably gave me APC. But a life spent eating pizza, is a life well spent.

• in reply tomonte1111

You would have been okay if added extra anchovies.

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply to

I need to bring anchovies when my friend is making pizza, I buy anchovies by the pound.

• in reply tospencoid2

By the pound? How many anchovies are in a pound?

monte1111 profile image
monte1111• in reply to

That's a lot of anchovies staring at you.

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply to

i exaggerated, the cans are 14 ounces but I have bought more than one at a time. I have a new can, I will count them as I eat them and let you know when the can is finished. If you really need to know I can count them but they are packed like sardines (but they are anchovies) in the can and they will never fit back. If you buy these large cans get a good brand like Roland or try one can before you buy a dozen, some are awful.

• in reply tospencoid2

Now I understand why your mailbox is 3 miles from your house....neighbors can't complain.

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply to

only 1.5 miles 3 is the round trip bike ride. anchovy farts have been known to travel miles.

Bunkerboy profile image
Bunkerboy• in reply to

LOL😂. Indeed

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply to

I picked 6 anchovies and weighed them and of courses had to eat them. The average is 3.5 grams so that is an average of 129.7142857143 anchovies per pound, approximately.

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply tospencoid2

got the grams in a pound wrong so the correct number is 129.59782 approximately

monte1111 profile image
monte1111• in reply to

Or added chocolate chip ice cream - two scoops.

• in reply tomonte1111

now that may have been the source of your problems...pretending to be j-o-h-n.

monte1111 profile image
monte1111• in reply to

Yes. I am a trans-j-o-h-n. And that's all I have to say about that.

Mascouche profile image
Mascouche• in reply to

You just made me realize that I have not seen a post from J-O-H-N in a while. Is he unwell?

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2

I have a friend who makes organic vegetarian pizza, almost everything from the garden. I could probably live on that, it will certainly increase my appetite. I do try to avoid pepperoni etc but it is difficult with the husband buying all that stuff.

monte1111 profile image
monte1111

Husbands are always right.

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply tomonte1111

I am a husband too, which of us is right?

Darryl profile image
DarrylPartner

you can search this way, too: Go to google and type in site:healthunlocked.com/advanced-prostate-cancer selenium

monte1111 profile image
monte1111

You got me on that one.

Poowater profile image
Poowater

Reply Selenium can be toxic in high doses. One Brazil nut is all one needs each day.

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply toPoowater

Great I have been wanting to visit Brazil :)

monte1111 profile image
monte1111• in reply tospencoid2

You are a nut.

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply tomonte1111

No, I am a fruit. With a little nuttiness too. We are quite common in California.

Purple-Bike profile image
Purple-Bike• in reply toPoowater

After reading this thread I am reducing intake from two Brazil nuts daily to one. No time to do the research, but this will hopefully mean the sweet spot between too much and too little for those of us living in selenium-poor regions.

• in reply toPurple-Bike

I would recommend ditching the Brazil nuts altogether. There are much better choices. Walnuts almonds, pecans..pine nuts.

Brazil nuts are high in methionine..

Some say reducing intake can help slow pca progression.

Purple-Bike profile image
Purple-Bike• in reply to

Only now did the math. One Brazil nut has 70 - 90 mcg selenium. RDA 55 mcg. With some selenium from other foods about one nut per two days would suffice.Of the alternatives you suggested, I eat 5 - 10 walnuts per day however that will only provide a few mcg (5mcg per 100 g of walnuts, and about the same for almonds) so unfortunately those wonderful nuts don't seem to do it.

• in reply toPurple-Bike

May I inquire about the concern with getting enough selenium?

Purple-Bike profile image
Purple-Bike• in reply to

Of course!I understand delenium deficiency to be a risk factor for prostate cancer. If so it is probably not good for us with pca either. See this post by Patrick, down in the text you find the data. Deficiency is also linked to other negative health outcomes.

healthunlocked.com/advanced...

• in reply toPurple-Bike

Okay...thank you...I'm not sure that what prevents cancer can turn back the clock once cancer gets a stronghold ins the body....but a good psychology is equally important so in that vein...eat away...I was just curious...thanks for your response.

monte1111 profile image
monte1111• in reply to

You can have your selenium and eat it too.

monte1111 profile image
monte1111• in reply tomonte1111

And really, as far as I am concerned, off with their nuts.

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply toPurple-Bike

i had a purple bike at one time :) So is the consensus that 200 mcg a day poses no risk unless already at a good selenium level? should i get a hair test? i asked my local gardener and he says their soil is supplemented with whatever the soil test recommended including micro nutrients but i need to get more details,

monte1111 profile image
monte1111• in reply tospencoid2

Ask Peewee Herman.

Purple-Bike profile image
Purple-Bike• in reply tospencoid2

That's great - let's form a subgroup on this forum - Proud Purple-bikers with Prostate cancer! 🙂

Don't know about the 200mcg, possibly TallAllen's links point to a lower number.

Why go for 200 if around 60 is enough?

I will go for one Brazil nut per weekday, with nothing on weekends when I am usually away.

treedown profile image
treedown• in reply toPurple-Bike

Count me in I have a purple bicycle and PC.

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply to

so how many slices of pecan pie would be necessary per day?

• in reply tospencoid2

2 plus 2 anchovo

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply to

i'll get my doctor to prescribe pecan pie and anchovy pizza. i can get medicare to pay for it :)

• in reply tospencoid2

Perfect now don't forget a nice 2x IPA with that pizza. .I'd rather die without and that's no joke

• in reply tospencoid2

2 slices, 2 anchovies and 2 scoops chocolate chip ice cream

monte1111 profile image
monte1111• in reply toPurple-Bike

Good reply. I think there is a shortage of Brazilian nuts. There are only Peanuts around here.

• in reply tomonte1111

Are you sitting in the gallery?

monte1111 profile image
monte1111• in reply to

I am sitting on the throne.

• in reply tomonte1111

Depositing Brazil nuts

monte1111 profile image
monte1111• in reply to

It's more like Nutella.

• in reply tomonte1111

Now that's over the top.

monte1111 profile image
monte1111• in reply to

Yes it is. Goodnight all.

Magnus1964 profile image
Magnus1964

Selenium is a trace element so the maximum dose would be 200 micro grams. Check the selenium content of the soil in your area with the local agricultural department. Assuming you eat local vegetables. If the selenium is present, take a very low dose.

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply toMagnus1964

my main source of veggies is going to check his soil report hopefully after supplementing. i'll probably get a hair test if medicare pays for it.

pjoshea13 profile image
pjoshea13

see:

healthunlocked.com/advanced...

-Patrick

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply topjoshea13

thanks, great article. i will check the soil. during the summer we buy most of our produce from a local organic farm. maybe they have had their soil tested. what about blood testing? does serum level mean anything?

pjoshea13 profile image
pjoshea13• in reply tospencoid2

Studies tend to look at toenail clippings.

There is also a hair test.

spencoid2 profile image
spencoid2• in reply topjoshea13

I know that hair contains a history of drug use etc so this makes sense. Is there any correlation between old mans toenails (which I have) and selenium deficiency by any chance? I would google the answer but am getting pack to go fishing. i think this might be the first time in a long time I did anything just for fun (and the fish) I enjoy my work so I do have fun being a workaholic.

pjoshea13 profile image
pjoshea13• in reply tospencoid2

"old man's toenails" is new to me.

Incidentally, for anyone interested in such, we have:

Comparative study of trace elements in blood, scalp hair and nails of prostate cancer patients in relation to healthy donors

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/252...

Full text: sci-hub.do/10.1007/s12011-0...

-Patrick

Not what you're looking for?

You may also like...

zinc and selenium

Is anyone useing these supplements? My naturopath recomends that i take it but i do have doubts....
Mischa1111111 profile image
•

Zinc and Selenium

Got my blood test results for zinc and selenium today. Both are close to the lower end range, but...
Nusch profile image
•

Canola oil or Selenium

Does Canola oil cause PCa cells to grow? Would selenium in 1 in 8 PCa survivors cause PCa cells to...
BigRich profile image
•

Possible link between dietary selenium and Covid-19 outcome

Link identified between dietary selenium and outcome of COVID-19 disease Date: April 29, 2020...
Graham49 profile image
•

The SELECT Trial, Selenium & Vitamin D Supplementation.

The SELECT trial (Selenium and Vitamin E Cancer Prevention Trial) [1] opened July 25, 2001. It was...
pjoshea13 profile image
•

Moderation team

Bethishere profile image
BethishereAdministrator
Number6 profile image
Number6Administrator
Darryl profile image
DarrylPartner

Content on HealthUnlocked does not replace the relationship between you and doctors or other healthcare professionals nor the advice you receive from them.

Never delay seeking advice or dialling emergency services because of something that you have read on HealthUnlocked.