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I haven't found many studies about prostate cancer progression and coffee (or caffeine).

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Spyder54

RSH1, another surprise from you!I have been spending $1.50 per pack of Wheatgrass based Bio-Coffee because it was high Ph coffee, thinking I was being smart. Raising Ph level in my body seemed like a good path to follow. Now good ol acidic coffee could be one more piece in the puzzle/arsenal to inhibit PCa growth. It almost feels like next week another story will attack coffee? The study seems solid enough for me. Saves me about $1,000 per year. Thank you!

in reply toSpyder54

You are most welcome!There are hundreds of studies about coffee. I haven't read a negative one but have read a few that conclude that there is no effect. Most of the argument comes down to whether caffeinated is as good as decaf. And whether hot is better than filtered-cold-brewed.

I don't mind some caffeine so make hot drip one week and the next week filtered cold-brewed. I always get organic beans (not caffeine-free) and grind my own. And I use a glass/stainless steel coffee maker. Putting hot things in plastics doesn't seem like a good idea :)

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tom67inMA in reply toSpyder54

Ph is one of those things that are carefully controlled by the human body, and attempts to change Ph will only change the Ph of your urine. If you were to significantly change your body's Ph, it would likely be fatal.

Tall_Allen profile image
Tall_Allen

I have about a score of studies, all just associations.

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Schwah in reply toTall_Allen

Ahhh but unlike many of these you don’t have contrary studies showing the opposite. So that’s a good sign.

Schwah

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Tall_Allen in reply toSchwah

I live at Starbucks :-)

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Chugach in reply toTall_Allen

They have some fine beans!!!!

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Currumpaw in reply toTall_Allen

Percolated, organic, freshly ground, dark beans using spring water in a stainless steel percolater is the only way to go.

A once through paper and plastic and done is okay if necessary.

Those who drink their coffee black will understand. No adulteration. Once, many years ago, there might have been some whiskey or amaretto in a cup before closing time.

youtu.be/y3KEhWTnWvE

Currumpaw

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SPEEDYX in reply toCurrumpaw

Perk is the way to go!...I prefer the old fashioned smooth nutty flavor!!

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Tall_Allen in reply toCurrumpaw

At home, I use only light or medium roast beans that I grind myself. IMO, dark roasting masks the scent and flavor of the beans. Percolation drives off the volatile scent and flavor chemicals so that only "burnt" is left. I use a french press with 180°F water (first bubbles form) and I make it fresh each time.

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Currumpaw in reply toTall_Allen

Hey T_A!

A study published in The European Journal of Preventive Cardiology says that you --and I are slowly killing ourselves by not using a paper filter in the brewing process.

Maybe you shouldn't read this. I, although I have a memory that is at times a burden rather than a blessing, will try to ignore this study.

Copy everything between the lines--

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The healthiest way to brew your coffee - CNN

cnn.com/2020/04/22/health/h...

Apr 22, 2020 · Drinking filtered coffee better for health The new study followed over half a million healthy Norwegian men and women between the ages of 20 and 79 over a 20-year period.

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Oh well!

Currumpaw

Oh yes! My percolater is ready for tomorrow morning!

in reply toCurrumpaw

Unfortunately, if you think that coffee reduces cancer mortality risk, it needs to be balanced against cardiac risk. At least one of the components that increases cardio risk supposedly decreases cancer mortality risk.

I filter and cold brew some of my coffee and hot brew some and hot brew some without a filter.

Much in life is like that. Guessing at risk/reward and making tradeoffs.

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Tall_Allen in reply toCurrumpaw

LOL. I think my grilled steaks will kill me first.

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Vangogh1961 in reply toTall_Allen

I think my QOL would be severly impacted if coffee was determintal. :)

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HealThyb

Can

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Chugach

I drink pretty close to a pot of Starbucks Italian roast every morning. These guys on this site can find you any research on this, but I think the general conclusion is that it doesn’t hurt and might help.

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pjoshea13

see my response to snoraste 3 years ago:

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-Patrick

in reply topjoshea13

Thanks. I've been drinking 6 cups of coffee every day. There is plenty of evidence that caffeine has lipolysis and workout benefits. And some evidence that it might be good for prostate cancer and not much of any evidence that it is negative.

My personal experience is that: #1 I love the taste and it is a little thing that improves my QoL. #2 It boosts my workout performance. #3 I need to finish my caffeine 10 hours before I go to bed.

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lespaul123

Caffeine helps me deal with the fatigue associated with ADT - Bzzz

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