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Gaining weight on ADT

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Hey all. I’ve been on Lupron for about 2 years and Zytiga/prednisone for the past year. I’m metastatic, with a few bone and lymph node mets. PSA levels have dropped to no-detect for the past 6 months. Wooooot!

But I’ve dropped some weight without trying. I’m about 5’-10” and typically at about 165. I’m now down to 150 or so.

I’m looking for some dietary suggestions to help me gain some pounds. Yeah, I know weight training needs to be a part of it. Bones and all. So that means protein, but red meat is supposed to be a cancer no-no.

How to I flesh myself out a bit? Thanx!

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Marijuana, mixed nuts and proteins shakes. Also, quit playing that Gibson Les Paul Tribute so much, chords burn calories.

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Lame you know it’s not the chords, it’s the model! Les Paul the heaviest guitar known to man.

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noahware

Losing 10% of your body weight without trying is not a typical ADT side effect. Most GAIN some 5-10% (or more) without trying. Loss of T and E2 usually mean a loss in muscle mass that's more than made up for by a gain in fat mass.

It's great that you are not getting fat. But can you attribute the weight loss to a loss of appetite or to changes you have made in diet, activity, etc? Over what period of time was this loss?

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Shooter1 in reply to noahware

All good questions. I gained 10 kilo. Working to lose some now that winter is about over..

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TrashPanda72 in reply to noahware

I am in that gain category.... more fat and muscle loss

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Boywonder56

Cheeseburger🍔

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RS265

It is useful to know if you have lost fat, muscle or both.

I use body composition analysis to track my exercise and ADT impacts. As I knew I would restart ADT this month, I benchmarked myself 3 months ago and again last week. In between I worked to lose weight and gain muscle mass, so amongst other efforts I doubled my upper body workouts. My weight dropped but so did my my upper body muscle! My consultant concluded my morning workouts on an empty stomach were consuming muscle. Fix is to eat a banana prior to the workout.

My message is that knowledge avoids blundering in the dark. What if you lost (by mass) 20% muscle and had gained 10% fat. Just using diet to add weight would not be the answer.

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No17

HI

I have been on ADT for a year now (Eligard)

Similar measurement 5 '10 170 lbs

And like you all my life , I am 62, have been struggling to gain weight not losing it. Now with ADT, it's the same uphill battle

I 've been able to maintain weight between 165 and 170 by doing number of things.

Making sure I have enough sleep

Having a protein rich diet ( but with little red meat) with whey , soya, fish nuts etc )

Consulting a sport nutritionist to make sure I was scheduling my food properly

Working out 4 or 5 times a week mostly weights and resistance

Going thru creatine cycles

While monitoring my body weight and composition ( weight, muscular mass , fat etc

Yes it's a time and energy consuming project, but heck! It's worth it.

Hope it helps and good luck

No17

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myamic in reply to No17

I see that you use creatine supplement. I have waivered whether to use or not. When I have used i thought it helped with muscle tone...stopped because my kidney creatine numbers were a little high. You thoughts and your oncologist thoughts on using

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No17 in reply to myamic

I am mindful of the impact on kidneys. iF my blood test would show a red flag I would stop , No question.But so far it's been ok. Got to follow the cycling protocol scrupulously

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myamic in reply to No17

How is your bone density? I have been on adt since 2016 and have experienced 5 percent + loss the first four years, am due for dexa this year.

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No17 in reply to myamic

It haven't changed after a year....to be ,monitored in the next few months

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Boywonder56 in reply to myamic

5 percent for total 20 perc.?

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RonnyBaby

An increase of caloric intake and ensuring there is some FAT in your diet would be a good place to start .... It doesn't need to be 'bad' fat .....

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mrscruffy

I am combating muscle loss by lifting weights 4 to 5 days a week and consume tons of protein. My shake that I consume twice a day consists of a mass builder, bone broth, creatine, and dry peanut butter. I will lose some of the weight when I drop calories to 1200-1300 a day in a couple of months.

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Rick0

What helped me when I lost weight due to cutting almost everything out of my diet, for fear of feeding my cancer, was to consult with a nutritionist and using a weight loss calorie tracking app on my phone (i could never find a weight gain app!) to ensure I was getting enough calories. Best of luck

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j-o-h-n

First of all change your I.D. to "more instead of less".... Mostly everyone here gains weight and has trouble losing it. So for you drink malted milks with ice cream every day... and if you don't want them mail them to me...........Chocolate chip ice cream (two scoops)...

Give Mary my regards....

Good Luck, Good Health and Good Humor.

j-o-h-n Monday 03/15/2021 11:42 PM DST

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