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Prolactine levels treated with clioquinol and cabergoline of terminal androgen-independent prostate cancer.. A cure?

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Hi all... Stumbled over some articles about how some terminal MPCa patients who due to gynecomastia were treated with clioquinol and cabergoline in order to lower their prolactine level.... and more or less got "cured"... Has anyone tried this or know something more about it? Sounds too good to be true?

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I believe somebody posted on this forum about this recently. It said once PCa becomes androgen independent ,it starts using prolactin and thus becomes prolactin dependent.

So, I ordered prolactin level for myself 2 days ago to know my baseline prolactin level to be compared with future readings.

The serum prolactin test is not expensive. It costing me $45 in USA

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What is the lab you use?

Thanks.

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Its called Walk in lab.

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Thanks.

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LearnAll

Nalakrat...is there any point in taking Mukuna Matata or cabergoline ,if someone is still androgen dependent?

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LearnAll

Thanks. Let me see what my prolactin level comes.

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45yrsDenmark

So... it does work to keep the level of prolactine low when ADT and/or chemo does not work? So when to consider this and when to consider e.g. LU177 treatment?

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45yrsDenmark

Just to make sure I understand.. I am talking about this case:

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

and

europepmc.org/article/PMC/6...

Conclusion:

The important conclusions are: 1. The targeting for treatment of terminal advanced prostate cancer has mistakenly focused on androgen receptor as the cause of the development of advanced prostate cancer. Consequently, targeting androgen receptor has failed to result in an effective treatment. 2. Advanced prostate cancer is a prolactin-dependent malignancy. 3. An efficacious treatment should be targeted at inhibiting the pituitary lactotropic production of prolactin to suppress the plasma prolactin concentration. This has been achieved with cabergoline (dopamine agonist; Dostinex). 4. These relationships and treatment were successfully applied to a patient who presented with advanced prostate cancer; which is possibly the first reported case of an effective treatment that terminated advanced prostate cancer.

So.. It seems that this is a new approach to keep surviving even after ADT, LU177 etc have stopped working?

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This whole prolactin thing is not based on clinical trials. A group in Baltimore published what they called a "cure" for a guy or a few guys with advanced cases of mCRPCa. I've asked my MO for more information but haven't received a reply. I will post when/if I do.

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Hi Nalakrats, can you share the brand you use, seems there is quite a variety in prices. Missed you while you were gone.

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Thanks Brother.

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tango65

Thanks,

Happy Hanukkah!!

So in that article it says “A CTCPC (circulating tumor prostate cells count) count = 5.4 on 8/27/2018, which is indicative of ~21 months of survival”

Is getting that count cheap or expensive?

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