Advanced Prostate Cancer

"Bemer" Physical Vascular Therapy?? Yay or Nay

I had a gift certificate for a massage today. When finished I ask the lady about the large... what I thought was a large heating pad. She then started explaining that It is a Bemer made in Germany and that it is for Physical Vascular Therapy. It was quite interesting but does it really work. She mentioned something about your alkaline levels being better with this and that it puts oxygen in your blood and keeps your circulation much better and Your old cells die faster and your new cells form faster now I know that's not exactly how she explained it but that's my interpretation ;)) It is supposed to make your body heal faster and give you more energy. So long story short haha has anyone heard of this is anyone using this and does anyone know if it works or not? I have a link but I'm not sure I'm allowed to post it here. I am only inquiring To try to improve my health, lgs health, everyone's health....if it is something that will work. I am wondering if it will help with the cancer for all. Thanks so much for any input. So much appreciate 😊

Hugs and peace,

Jackie

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No information on it. But never, never think there is an issue with whatever you post! You are a rock!

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Thanks so much Dr_WHO 🤗

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Dr._WHO, you are a rock too.

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Yes he sure is :))

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A doc near us has Bemer. I recommend trying it out first if possible. Out of 3 people who tried the Bemer, I am the only one who felt anything. This doesn't mean it doesn't do anything but I wonder if some folks are more sensitive to it than others. It is supposed to increase the oxygen in your cells and help your medications work better. If you have any neuropathy, there are claims it helps with that. In the US they are costing about 5k-6k. Which is a lot. Dr Pai's office says it works best if you use it on a daily basis. I think it is worth a try. I have been tempted to get one as there are 2 people in my household(One is my husband who has cancer) who could benefit from it. Bemer is a good company and I think you will get a good product. I hope this helps. Please let us know what you decide.

P.S. (Dr Pai does talk about it a little in his book Inflammation Nation.. it is free on kindle unlimited.. but the part where he talks about the Bemer is a very short chapter)

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Quite interesting softwaremom00. Thank you for the info. Wow quite expensive. They were charging $10.00 an 8 minute session but you need to go twice a day. The cost ..to own it was 6345.00 Wowza! Neither are doable. They had an article of how it helps cancer and the side effects of treatments. I still find it interesting. 😊

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The cost of the one I tried was $25 For a 20 minute session. The list price was similar.. I think it is actually $5900 for the high end model. Not all quackery.. they have been using PEMF in delayed fracture healing for a while now. It works for some people but not everyone. Insurance reimburses for it.

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Wow! I thought insurance would never even consider.

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i assume the oxygen will get to your cells in the blood. your basic levels can be tested easily using a pulse oximeter, and knowing if your hemoglobin levels are ok. if those two are good, it will be very hard to get more oxygen to the cells. The two best ways are doses of EPO, like in the Tour de France, or (just maybe) hyperbaric oxygen, with the hope to get disolved oxygen in the blood, ouside of the red blood cells. Whether cells can take disolvved oxygen out of the blood, I have no idea.

if this device does work, then expect to see it in athletic events.

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Thanks so much Martingugino!!

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Quack, quack, quack, quack, quack......

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Giggles

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If it quacks like a duck, duck.

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LOL

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Hi Jackie,

Never underestimate the power of electricity. From magnetism, to electromotive force, to inductance and capacitance, to the radio and lights in your house, to lightning.

Smart men and women learned how to manipulate it in thousands of ways, and this is but one. I'm sure a lot of R & D went into the development of this contraption, considering the price of it.

It's amazing how much I don't remember of my electronic training. But one thing is for sure, they're packaging more and more into smaller and smaller spaces.

Peace, J

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It's all quite amazing Jonzey!

Peace to you :)

Jackie

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1. Whenever you hear someone talking about "alkaline levels" your BS detector should go off.

2. "The word BEMER stands for Bio-Electro-Magnetic-Energy-Regulation and it is a novel therapy that helps to regulate the flow of energy in your body." Whenever you hear someone talking about "flow of energy in your body" your BS detector should go off.

3. There appears to be research on Bemer, but only in the "Journal of Complementary and Integrative Medicine". Who do think publishes there? Not the same people who publish in say JAMA or the New England Journal of Medicine.

4. "Electro-Magnetic-Energy" this is the very same stuff that many periodically claim to cause cell phone related cancer (no supporting studies though). You can get this for free by jogging underneath high-tension power electric lines. If the electromagnetic radiation fails to stimulate your vascular circulation, the jogging certainly will.

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Thank you So much Cesanon :))

Jackie

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Must stop for now but, seriously, this exchange made me smile after crying. Thanks. Love you, Jackie. Mrs. S

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Awwwww... I'm glad it helped you laugh Mrs. S. I get a lot of giggles from here too when I'm feeling sad. sometimes i laugh out loud. Are you okay? Are you feeling better today? Please take care of you too. How is your hubby doing? Love to you Mrs. S.

Most sincere,

Jackie

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Thanks for asking, Jackie. Les is “up and at ‘em” this morning which isn’t to say there aren’t new concerns such as new hearing aid difficulties, lower, likely lymphatic, abdomen swelling (probably from too much modified citrus pectin?), his sister’s favorite golfing buddy’s funeral today in Northfield, MN—treated at Mayo, died of lung cancer, plus my reason for not sleeping last night which is credit card fraud using a VISA we have had forever. Fortunately an attempted $1347 charge at a site we’ve never used called WELLBOT aroused suspicion and was denied. The cards are cut up, and we await replacement. When it rains...

Today we’re loading the pickup with brush for the local recycling center, and Les has been hauling wheelbarrow loads of rotting leaves and garden refuse for future compost. We still plan for next year’s garden!

None of the above compares with the distress we feel about softwaremom’s situation. Simply heartbreaking. I know you’re praying for her and for her husband. Stay well yourself. We all have come to count on you. Mrs. S

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Awww I'm so deeply sorry for a loss of a close friend :'(... as I lie here speaking to my best friends daughter who left the earth 22 years ago tomorrow at the age of 15.

I so much hope the rain lessens soon ;)) I'm so glad you you're both finding the energy to keep fighting and planning for next year's garden 😁. I'm thankful they caught your card fraud.

Yes...., my sincere and heartfelt prayers for softwaremom and hubby too and everyone here.

I am humbled Mrs. S by yours and everyone's kindness here.

💜 Jackie

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Our rain and everyone’s on this site lets up every time you write. Thanks, Jackie. We are humbled by you. Jan

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💖 you all.

Thank you Jan.

Hugs 🤗

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When you said 'bemer' I thought BMW owner.

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Lol I did too when she started telling me about the beamer ;))

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I had a 1600 when I was in Germany. Little pocket rocket.

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110V or 220V ?

j-o-h-n Monday 11/13/2017 12:52 PM EST

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I think 110. I will ask next time I go john.

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Hi Jackie

I am Roland. I decided to reply on this post because I had something to add.

I hope Elgie your husband is coping well this days as I did not hear any complaints.

I had a Cystoscopy on 28 October 17. It was quite extensive as there was massive bleeding from a delicate orifice prostate gland/ ureter and then a resect to eliminate blockage with right ureteric stent.

Post operation my surgeon put me on a electric calf massager. Pre operation I often had aches in my calf during minor walking from golf. So the techniques has been immensely helpful. With post operation use of Ural an alkalineser UTI flush I was moving again.

I was amazed by my quality living although been diagnosed fully on 30 November 17 as a high grade Advanced PCa Stage 4.

Due to my stupidity when I consumed over 2 days a large 850 g can preaches in syrup I was admitted to Hospital again and now added s left ureteric stent on 21 December 17.

This time around the surgeon did not include the previous techniques post operation.

Consequently I ordered them and self administering.

I am OK now and can go about doing my routine as well as eating.

I am blessed.

Merry Christmas to you and LG.

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