Tinnitus went with migraine!

[SueX]

Just an observation - I've had really bad tinnitus since September. It's not stopped for one second - except for last night. I had an occular migraine (zigzag lights in vision but no headache). During the 30 or so mins that I was unable to see I noted that the Tinnitus had gone completely. It's back now. If I think about it, when you have an occular migraine I think the blood vessels constrict so that must have been what caused the tinnitus to stop. However I guess it's possible that I was just so fixated on/anxious by the visual symptoms that the tinnius was there but my perception of it was different. Anyway, it was nice to have a half hour break from T !

[vincentchan]

According to cbt for tinnitus book good news is that its just distress

Can tinnitus cause headaches or other problems?

Based on clinical observations, there seem to be several sensa- Dons that can be related to or caused by tinnitus distress. They range from various forms of muscle tension to oversensitivity to sound, referred to as hyperacusis.

Tension in the head and face muscles can lead to headaches. A study conducted in Sweden by Dr Lugo and colleagues showed that the prevalence of headaches among people with tinnitus was 26 per cent, and up to 40 per cent for people with severe tinnitus. This is higher than the prevalence in the general population. The headaches may be related to the stress and anxiety caused by tinnitus, or they may be related to a pre-existing problem like migraines. If the former is the case, the CBT methods described here may reduce the incidence and/or severity of headaches. If the latter, a doctor may be able to diagnose the root cause of the headaches or prescribe medi- cation for the migraines.

APD There are tiny muscles attached to the ossicles, the tiny bones yow in the middle ear that connect the eardrum to the cochlea (part mes por of the inner ear), as illustrated in Figure 3. If the muscles con- tract, they stiffen the ossicular chain, leading to a reduction in he pes the transmission of sound from the eardrum to the cochlea This occurs as a natural reflex when we are exposed to an intense sound; it helps to protect the delicate structures inside the cochlea. The muscles relax when the intense sounds stop. However, sometimes the muscles can contract for a long time without any intense sound being present. This can lead to

[SueX in reply to vincentchan]

Really interesting, thanks for replying!

[perlcoder]

Hi SueX

I had migraines (not the worst as migraine suffering goes), then ocular migraines. I had those for years, l even before T started about 24 years ago, and they continue now. They have never caused a break in my T, but, although it is now severe and 24/7 anything that suddenly occupies the whole of my attention can make it stop for the rest of the day, returning in my sleep or even as I am falling asleep.

Best wishes

[SueX in reply to perlcoder]

Sorry to hear you have suffered for so long with R but good to know that something sudden and unexpected can 'stop' the T even if only briefly.

[Jimbob7]

I had my first migraine for many years about 6 weeks ago - I was also startled by the fact that my Tinnitus shut up for the first day or two of it. It was actually very alarming and I ended up in A & E and had a CT scan - which was clear but it really freaked me out that the Tinnitus went quiet. (Had severe T since last April following cervical injury accident. Last migraine before that one above was about 30 years ago.)

Just put it down to the crazy haphazard meanderings of the T.

[SueX]

Sorry to hear you ended up in A&E but interesting that you had the same experience of T going quiet for a while.

[Jimbob7 in reply to SueX]

Yes, it was really quite spooky. I woke up one morning with the headache and the T had absolutely diminished to virtually zero. I was more afraid than relieved tbh. Then as the morning went on the headache got worse and worse until I couldn't move my head without it being agony and phoned my surgery. They looked at my notes and advised immediate to A & E. A bit later when they had assured themselves with the clear CT scan - I began to speculate that out of place nerves or something from my injury had shifted in my cervical region during the night and gone back in to place or something.

Unfortunately, as the headache dispersed over the coming days the T returned.

[Tourk]

I've been experimenting with what triggers my tinnitus, unfortunately I'm going to have to admit it's sugar. There are links to sugar coursing diabetes spike leading to tinnitus. So it might be that migraine effects the production of insulin and that negates you tinnitus.

I take it your tried the tapping on the back of your neck 20 times x 8 to stop tinnitus or taking "benfotiamine ". Would be interesting to see if this helps reduce your chances of getting migraine.

I've noticed more and more sugar in everything so it's no wonder so many people are having a reaction to it..

[Lancslass66 in reply to Tourk]

Hi, the same with me. If I eat too much sugar I get a huge build up of wax in my ears and my tinnitus goes louder. So weaning myself off slowly, will also be good for my weight.

[Tourk in reply to Lancslass66]

Funnily enough same with me, I hadn't thought about the connection between sugar and excess ear wax.Since I've reduced sugar it has reduced, just as the level of tinnitus has reduced.

The problem is sugar is put in everything, crisps per weight have more sugar than chocolate it can beleave such a ridiculous thing.

We are told that sailt is bad for us, not unless you take spoonfuls of the stuff. We are told animal fats are bad for us, and to use vegetable oils instead. Total lie vegetable oils are toxic and are associated with host of side effects including lethargy and depression.

Bitter really is better.

We live in such strange times where we have to rely on our own knowledge and experience if we want to be healthier.

For me a biscuit with coffee is a hard one to break. And chocolate, not Cadburys any more it used to be nice but now it has a nasty after taste. To much palm oil

[Lancslass66 in reply to Tourk]

I can't not have a digestive or two with my coffee and chunky kitkat is my downfall lol but I ration myself to weekends for the kitkat. I only eat plain Greek yoghurt and cook properly more, oh I could go on for hours lol, but seriously it really works for me. I love peanut butter and now use Meridian absolutely no palm oil. What a saint eh? Good luck

[Tourk in reply to Lancslass66]

The chunky kitkat I miss them soo much lolUsed to buy them in a pack of three, hide them away from the children. The price kept on going up so much so that my partner refused to buy them any more. Not a great fan of digestives but occasionally they have offers on store baked shortbread. Though the last lot was rather odd, it was as if they weren't cooked.

I guess our bodies can only take so much, with all the chemicals added to our food it's no wonder we are getting ill.

I live in the uk so at least there are so sort of standards. It's shocking what companies are allowed to add to food in America. Sometimes 4 or 5 know toxic chemicals added comparedto the same product ( Doritos) in the uk

[Lilyian22]

When i get ill or sore tension headaches ..it will bypass my tinnitus until i feel better ..its like it takes a back seat ....

[SueX in reply to Lilyian22]

That's fascinating!

[GrimGraze]

Never had one of those, but since i've started hearing tinnitus (1 year and a half now) it only gave me a break when i took mirtazapine to sleep in the beginning. Every time i took it completely muted the tinnitus. Sadly this effect only last for 1 month or so

[SueX in reply to GrimGraze]

Oh dear that it wasn't longer that that. Fingers crossed that eventually we all find something that lasts a little longer!