Is it possible to treat hypothyroidism with dietary changes?

[chicken3]

Just been diagnosed with 'subclinical hypothyroidism' with a TSH of 7.8 and want to try and treat it naturally if possible. Feel pretty awful at times but not constantly. Has anyone got any suggestions of sources of information for dietary cures/approaches rather than thyroxine?

[greygoose]

Cures? Not that I know of! If there were, we'd all be on them. Nobody wants to take tablets for the rest of their lives.

The only thing I can suggest that might have a slight effect, are goitrogens. Goitrogens are substances found in certain fruit and vegetables. They impede the uptake of iodine by the thyroid gland, and can cause goitre if you eat an awful lot of them. I doubt if you do eat that many but there might be some you're eating that make you feel bad sometimes, as you say you don't feel constantly awful.

These veggies are the ones that people usually consider to be heatlhy, such as the cabbage family, broccoli, asparagus, flax seed and kale. But also millet, peanuts, turnips, rutabaga, almonds, walnuts, maize, strawberries, peaches and pears.

However the worst of all is soy. Soy is the double whammy because not only does it impede the uptake of iodine by the gland but also impedes the uptake of thyroid hormone by the cells. So that is really one to avoid.

This is quite a helpful site :

"Certain substances impair thyroid function. These substances include refined sugar, fluoride, alcohol, hydrogenated fats, and caffeine."

curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?...

However, what is supposed to be good for thyroid function is coconut oil. You'll find a lot of information on that on this site if you use the search window up the top.

But the thing is, if your thyroid is damaged - either by Hashimoto's disease or anything else - and is just not capable of putting out the amount of thyroid hormone you need to be well, then there really isn't any other solution at the present time than replacing the hormone it cannot make in pill form. The same goes for any other hormone you might be missing - DHEA, HGH, testosterone, etc. The only effective treatment is hormone replacement therapy.

But if we're talking hormone replacement treatment, levo isn't the only fruit - er - I mean hormone! Levo is synthetic T4, but there's also synthetic T3, and there are combinations of the two, and there are NDTs (Natural Dessicated Thyroid). You just have to find the right one for you.

Sorry I can't be more positive, Grey

[helvella Administrator in reply to greygoose]

I did post the other day about someone (reported in a medical journal) who became desperately ill by eating large quantities of raw Bok Choi (a Chinese cabbage). Which is another member of the brassica family. It was extreme (she consumed truly large amounts) and unusual.

Rod

[greygoose in reply to helvella]

Yes, it is unusual for people to eat that much. But if you are particularly sensitive to any given goitrogen, even a tiny amount can make you ill. And if you are that sensitive to it, cooking won't help.

I used to be extremely sensitive to walnuts. I once ate a slice of walnut cake, thinking well, they're cooked, won't hurt. It did. It hurt very much!

Grey

[chicken3 in reply to greygoose]

Thank you, this is helpful, I'm trying to understand all the options. Ironically since feeling unwell I have eaten alot more brassicas (which I don't even like!) as greens are supposed to be good for you.

[greygoose in reply to chicken3]

Well, it depends what's wrong with you, doesn't it. If you're hypo they're probably not that good for you. And the fact that you don't like them is perhaps not a coincidence.

[nightingale-56 in reply to greygoose]

'They' do say that if you instinctively do NOT like the food, then it is not good for you.

[nightingale-56 in reply to nightingale-56]

Always knew there was a reason for not liking bread as a child. However, I would love a piece of thick buttered toast now I have been wheat-free for 10 years!

[greygoose in reply to nightingale-56]

I fully believe this. However, I don't think the opposite is true. I love sugary things but I don't kid myself they're good for me! lol

But it makes a good case for not forcing kids to eat stuff they don't like, like I was as a child. I tried not to do that with my kids and the lesson must have stuck because with their kids they just insist on one taste, and if they really don't like it, fair enough.

[nostoneunturned in reply to chicken3]

Fluoride is bad news for the thyroid also. See:

thyroid uk.org.uk/tuk/treatment/fluoride.html

rense.com/general57/FLUR.HTM

[shaws Administrator]

Has your GP tested you for thyroid antibodies?

[Angela]

I know it's still very early in the morning I thought these foods where good for you what else is left to eat ????

[Angela]

by Michael King/ JUST came across this I find it unbelievable It's bait long but interesting

The most common foods which reduce thyroid hormone production (when consumed in excess, especially if raw) belong to the mustard family of cruciferous vegetables known as brassicas (kale, maca, broccoli, cabbage, etc.) due to their higher than usual levels of sulfur-containing compounds (which provide the pungent taste characteristic of the mustard family).

Sulfur compounds, when taken in excess, and not counterbalanced by iron-rich or iodine-rich foods, lead to a reduction in thyroid hormones. Other non-brassica foods also lower thyroid function (both are listed toward the bottom of this article) like estrogen promoting soy products, and peaches, strawberries, spinach, etc.

The largest food group with thyroid lowering influences are the brassicas which offer both benefits and detriments to overall body health depending on the existing mineral balance in your body at the time of consumption.

Sulfur in Brassicas

Brassicas contain a sulfur compound called isothiocyanates (mustard oil) which block the production of thyroid peroxidase (TPO), the enzyme that transfers iodine to the thyroid hormones and to mother’s milk. The net effect is a reduced production of thyroid hormones due to the absence of the fundamental building block for thyroid hormones – iodine (which may have its benefits in hyperthyroid conditions).

Brassica isothiocyanates have also shown to disrupt signaling across the thyroid cell membranes thereby reducing hormone transportation to other parts of the thyroid.

Isothiocyanates, (as members of the glucosinolate family of compounds) are associated to poor fertility in animals. nadis.org.uk/DiseasesCattle... Poisoning/BRASSI_1.htm

Brassicas also contain a sulfur amino acid, SMCO. The sulfur in brassicas compete for iron leading to goiter and anemia. Reduced iron leads to a reduction in oxygen to the cells and thereby a disruption in the production of cellular ATP (required for energy). Feelings of lethargy and chronic fatigue are the common result.

Iron deficiency impairs selenium utilization, yet selenium is essential for the proper utilization of iodine. Zimmerman MB and Kohrle J. The impact of iron and selenium deficiencies on iodine and thyroid metabolism: biochemistry and relevance to public health. Thyroid 2002;12:867-78.

High sulfur levels in brassicas (also in eggs, onions, garlic and Black Salt/Pink Sulfur Salt) will compete for iron and iodine and thereby reduce the absorption of selenium in the body which is iron dependant. Yet these conditions exist only where an insufficient mineral/nutrient support exists in sufficient quantities to offset the iodine/iron drain from the brassica sulfur compounds. Seaweeds (in Thyroid Balance and Earth & Sea Greens) for iodine and Sacred Clay for iron provide usable forms of offsetting nutrients required for optimal functioning of the thyroid when consuming moderate amounts of brassicas and other sulfur-rich foods.

While an excess of sulfur can cause anemia, a proper balance of sulfur, iron, selenium and iodine (along with numerous other mineral ratios that depend upon each other in relationship to these) can provide the body with powerful health-building properties. Only whole earthen resources, like sea vegetables and clay, have the ability to feed the body with such refined balances of 60-70+ minerals required by the body for optimal health.

Benefits of Sulfur in the Production of Glutathione

A proper amount of sulfur in the body is essential for the production of glutathione, instrumental in the detoxification of heavy metals, radiation, environmental chemicals and various toxic compounds that are the byproduct of normal metabolism in the body. Sulfur-containing glutathione plays a role in the detoxification of numerous foreign compounds, both organic and inorganic.

Glutathione is an essential component of the human immune response to oxidative stress (toxins). Glutathione is considered the most important antioxidant produced by the body. Low levels of glutathione potentially lead to a very long list of life-threatening health conditions due primarily to the buildup of toxic substances normally neutralized by glutathione.

For example, if the liver’s capacity to synthesize glutathione is reduced through toxic overload or disease, a rapid toxic buildup takes place followed by diminished health and an early death. Glutathione is utilized in the liver to convert body waste and toxic compounds prior to enclosing the waste in bile fluids for delivery out of the body through the intestines.

"No other antioxidant is as important to overall health as glutathione. It is the regulator and regenerator of immune cells and the most valuable detoxifying agent in the human body. Low levels are associated with hepatic dysfunction, immune dysfunction, cardiac disease, premature aging, and death." The Immune System Cure, Lorna R. Vanderhaeghe & Patrick J.D. Bouic, Ph.D.

While brassicas in moderate amounts may help the body produce glutathione, the highest known sources of bioavailable glutathione are actually found in raw milk whey and asparagus.

Clay & Sea Vegetables Offset the Sulfur Compounds from an Excess Intake of Brassica Foods

Sufficient quantities of earthen sources naturally high in bioavailable iron and iodine, like Sacred Clay, nettle leaf & sea vegetables (in Earth & Sea Greens and Thyroid Balance) assist in maintaining a proper balance in the sulfur-iron-iodine ratios, thereby insuring maximum benefits from the sulfur, iron and iodine present in the body. With sufficient quantities of plant-based or clay-based iron & iodine, energy levels lowered from a sulfur excess will naturally, and rapidly, climb back to normal levels.

I can personally vouch for this having spent a time of consuming an excess of Pink Sulfur Salt (Black Salt). I entered a phase of chronic fatigue not knowing how I was causing the loss of my usual energetic state. During research I understood the iron-sulfur relationship and went immediately to the cupboard to get Sacred Clay and Earth & Sea Greens. One tablespoon of each was consumed in water and within 30 minutes I went from hardly wanting to walk to 110% of my usual energy – and it was 10PM! I simply overwhelmed the sulfur presence in my body with iron-rich earthen sources and energy levels returned to normal.

Health Benefits of Brassicas

Brassica plants also contain many health benefits due to the high phytonutrient (plant-based) content of some (like kale). The same compounds that harm at high levels of intake, also seem to provide tremendous benefit at lower levels of consumption. The same isothiocyanate compounds that cause problems in excess also assist in the reversal of abnormal cell growths and provide the well known antibacterial properties characteristic of mustard oil (the pungent flavor in mustard leaf, horseradish, daikon radish, & rocket arugula, and found to a much lesser degree in kale, cabbage, collards, broccoli, etc.).

Moderation is the key here. The list below provides an insight into some of the more common ways health foodists lower their health without realizing what is causing the problem. Raw foodists are more susceptible to low thyroid effects of the foods listed below – unless they consume large amounts of sea vegetables and iron-rich earthen mineral sources to offset the effects of the iodine/iron stealing isothiocyanates.

Effects of Cooking Brassicas

Cooking will reduce the brassica enzymes responsible for blocking iodine, and the increased use of sea vegetables in the same meal will add beneficial iodine back to the system. As an example, in Japanese cuisine seaweeds are commonly served with iodine-blocking soy products (which are typically used in far less quantities in Japan than in soy-fad America). Miso soup with seaweed & tofu is one example.

Cooking will also eliminate the beneficial properties of the sulfur-bearing isothiocyanate compounds on cell division and infections, so individual discretion is in order as to quantity, frequency and whether to consume brassicas cooked or raw.

Adding seaweeds, clay and iron-rich greens to the daily diet is a smart practice for numerous reasons beyond just their sulfur balancing effects. Hundreds of additional nutritional compounds included in these health foods build health in many other ways as well.

A Wise Precaution in a Radiation Impacted World

At a time in human history when radiation is at an all time high, it is simply a wise precaution to reduce foods that steal iodine from the thyroid as you increase the sea vegetable content in the diet to increase iodine in the body. It is also wise increase iron-rich clays and plants to counter the effects of sulfur compounds, build adrenal/hormonal strength and facilitate detoxification of radiation from the body (clays and sea vegetables are Nature’s most effective radiation detoxifiers). (also see Nature's Most Powerful Protections from Radiation Exposure )

Sea Veggies or Iodine Drops?

When consuming sea vegetables for your iodine, iodine drops are not required. Iodine drops (even the best on the market) lack the complete earthen mineral profile of 70+ minerals (found in sea vegetables) that belong with any iodine intake for proper utilization and balance in the body. Why settle for 1 or 2 nutritional compounds in iodine drops when you can achieve superior results from the hundreds of nutritional compounds provided by sea vegetables?

List of Cruciferous Brassica Foods:

Maca

Canola Oil (rapeseed)

Kale

Broccoli

Broccolini

Kai-lan (Chinese Broccoli)

Brussels Sprouts,

Cabbage

Chinese Cabbage (Pe-tsai, Celery Cabbage/Mustard, Napa Cabbage, Bok Choi, Tatsoi, Choi sum, etc.)

Komatsuna

Mizuna

Ornamental Cabbages (some have edible parts)

Cauliflower

Collard greens

Mustard sauce, seeds and leaves

Horseradish

Radishes,

Watercress

Rocket arugula

Colza

Hanover Salad

Mizuna

Rapini

Kohlrabi

Rutabaga

Turnip

Wasabi

Non-Brassica Foods that Lower Thyroid Function:

Gluten grains (implicated in some thyroid autoimmune conditions – due primarily to the GMO properties of most gluten grains today.)

Soy products (isoflavones in soy also deprive the thyroid of iodine.) Fermentation reduces the isoflavones, but fermented soy will still over-estrogenate the body.) An excess of estrogen in the blood (which reduce the liver's ability to clear excess estrogen), can result in hypothyroid symptoms by decreasing levels of active T3. drplechner.com/pdf/elestrog...

Other Thyroid-reducing Foods Include:

Spinach

Peaches

Strawberries

Peanuts

Millet

Bamboo Shoots

Sweet Potatoes

Cassava Root from which Tapioca is made, (the cyanogenic glocosides in Cassava can, in high doses, can lead to cyanide poisoning and thyroid disturbances.)

Stimulants and the Thyroid

Stimulants like coffee, black & green teas, caffeinated cola drinks, and chocolate or cacao surprisingly acts on the thyroid as a suppressant. "Caffeine, Calcium and the Thyroid Nutritional Linkages to Thyroid Disease and Thyroid Drugs". thyroid-info.com. thyroid-info.com/articles/c....

OK, so what foods serve to build balanced thyroid function?

Sea Vegetables (Earth & Sea Greens & Thyroid Balance)

Chard (and excellent substitute for kale)

Mineral-rich herbs like nettle and alfalfa

Earthen mineral sources like Sacred Clay, Ancient Mineral Blend, Vitallite, Ormalite, Friendly Flora, etc.

Nutrient-dense superfood blends (like Earth & Sea Greens) that do NOT contain vegetables (especially brassicas)

Bee pollen

Avocados

Parsley

Cilantro

Celery

Licorice Root powder

Sesame seeds

Mushrooms

Lima

[Xanthe in reply to Angela]

really helpful post, Angela!

[Hidden in reply to Angela]

That's bizarre. I've been told by not only my gp but by others, that broccoli for example, is good for you if you're underactive.

[akcaponte in reply to Angela]

Very helpful information, thank you for sharing it. I do have one question: When you say "Thyroid reducing", to which part of the thyroid are you referring? The reason I ask is that I am diagnosed with sub-clinical hypothyroidism, meaning my T3 and T4 are in normal range but my TSH is too high. (lots of fun) I have discovered that some of the recommendations for hypothyroidism do not apply to sub-clinical. Thank you for any insight you can share. Namaste

[Xanthe]

Following on from Shaw's query - if you test positive for antibodies ( I.e. your hypothyroidism is an autoimmune disorder) then moving to a completely gluten-free diet helps to slow the rate of decline in the gland.

[chicken3 in reply to Xanthe]

Thank you Angela and Xanthe, all this information is really helpful. I have been eating alot of the 'brasica' thyroid reducing food in an effort to get healthy since I started feeling so bad, but now will try and balance it out.

In answer to the antibodies question, No I haven't (or don't think I have) my knowledge was pretty poor after the blood tests and GPs haven't been very communicative about the details. I'm going to try to be referred to an endocrinoligist at my local hosiptal as I want to try and identify the source of the problem to know what possible treatments are best. Will ask about the antibodies test. Thanks, really feel like I haven't been given a clear picture of the nature of the problem by my GP so thank goodness for other sources of information!

[Anya]

Hiya - I went on the anti candida diet (gluten/wheat free, sugar free, yeast free, dairy free) and within a month I had to reduce my levothyroxine from 100mcg a day to 75mcg a day. I reckon it's mostly gluten that did it

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