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More trips to the toilet than normal!

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Sorry about the toilet talk!I'm currently taking BetterYou vit D+K2 spray=3 sprays 3000IU (morning) BetterYou vit B12 spray = 4 sprays 1200ug (morning) , Ferrous Fumarate 210mg x1 tab (mid/late afternoon) (depending how I feel I take 1 or 2 tablets a day of ferrous fumarate) and Levothyroxine 75mg (before bed)

I find myself making many more trips to the toilet as my bladder can't seem to hold it. Could this be the B12 spray? And I'm just getting rid of the excess. I haven't been taking all these meds long only since I was diagnosed back in February.

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Pretty common, there’s a lot of mucin (jelly like substance in cells) to get rid of

It’s likely a good sign that your thyroid levels are improving

Retest 6-8 weeks after each dose change in levothyroxine

75mcg is low dose, unless extremely petite. You may be ready for next increase soon

Are you still on Teva or did you get Vencamil?

ALWAYS test early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

As you normally take levothyroxine at bedtime/in night ...adjust timings as follows prior to blood test

If testing Monday morning, delay Saturday evening dose levothyroxine until Sunday morning. Delay Sunday evening dose levothyroxine until after blood test on Monday morning. Take Monday evening dose levothyroxine as per normal

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Looking at previous post

Your folate was also low

You should also be taking a daily vitamin B complex, one with folate in (not folic acid)

This can help keep all B vitamins in balance and will help improve B12 levels too

Then once your serum B12 is over 500 (or Active B12 level has reached 70), you may be able to reduce then stop the B12 and just carry on with the B Complex.

If Vegetarian or vegan likely to need ongoing separate B12 few times a week

Difference between folate and folic acid

healthline.com/nutrition/fo...

Many Hashimoto’s patients have MTHFR gene variation and can have trouble processing folic acid supplements

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

B vitamins best taken after breakfast

Igennus B complex popular option. Nice small tablets. Most people only find they need one per day. But a few people find it’s not high enough dose and may need 2 per day and/or may need separate methyl folate couple times a week

Post discussing different B complex options

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Thorne Basic B recommended vitamin B complex that contains folate, but they are large capsules. (You can tip powder out if can’t swallow capsule) Thorne can be difficult to find at reasonable price, should be around £20-£25. iherb.com often have in stock. Or try ebay

IMPORTANT......If you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 3-5 days before ALL BLOOD TESTS , as biotin can falsely affect test results

endocrinenews.endocrine.org...

In week before blood test, when you stop vitamin B complex, you might want to consider taking a separate folate supplement (eg Jarrow methyl folate 400mcg) and continue separate B12 if last test result serum B12 was below 500 or active B12 (private test) under 70

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SessleBx in reply toSlowDragon

Will the bladder settle? I hope so! 😂 I will add in B complex too. I'm currently taking 50mg (Teva) 25mg (Vencamil) I requested Vencamil when they upped my dosage, I've requested Vencamil only on all future prescriptions, if this will happen I do not know yet! My stomach has finally settled with what I'm taking now so that's good news. I am petite only 4ft 11 😂 I'm due more bloods in May but I think they will only check TSH and some other test for Pre-menopause.I have found a small lump in my throat which I need to be checked so will be booking in for that soon too.

I've never been back and forth to the doctors this many times before in my whole life! They must think I'm a hypochondriac!

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have you had coeliac blood test yet

Are you now on gluten free diet?

Or dairy free?

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SessleBx in reply toSlowDragon

I did do a coeliac test but only one I bought online came back negative, haven't started a gluten or dairy free diet yet.

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I find that some brands of Vitamin B and Vit B complex can irritate my bladder (which is frustrating as I need to supplement quite often). Are you passing a large quantity or just getting the urge more often?

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SessleBx in reply toJazzw

Hi,It's more often.

Feels like everything I drink seems to go straight through.

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Hi there, if you are anaemic then you ought to have a blood test at the surgery to rule out pernicious anaemia, in which case you would be eligible to have a B12 shot on the NHS every three months or so. I found too much magnesium causes bowel problems rather than urinary issues. Try and get your bloods done first and come back to the experts on here for advice. Taking supplements willy nilly is not necessary unless your diet is restricted and you need topping up. It is quite a potential nightmare! Good luck!

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