Is this real? Prevent & Reverse Autoimmune disease

[thyr01d]

Have you read, or do you know anyone who has, this book: 'Top 20 Foods to Help Prevent & Reverse Autoimmune Disease' ? It's available free as a download from Eric, Wisdom for Life if you enter your name and email address. It sounds too good to be true but perhaps you know better?

[FallingInReverse]

Too good to be true! Hashis is forever!

Autoimmune diseases that are diagnosed correctly as such are not curable.

If you’re misdiagnosed then obviously one can address thyroid impacted by things within our control (like our key but/minerals.)

There’s lots of behavior that supports optimal thyroid health for those with autoimmune disease . But it doesn’t cure it.

[Tinkerbell_84 in reply to FallingInReverse]

Can I ask how would they be misdiagnosed?

[thyr01d in reply to Tinkerbell_84]

Hi Tinkerbell, I think FallingInReverse means when the medic makes an incorrect diagnosis. I used to work in a hospital where sometimes patients were referred with a diagnosis from their GP of for instance depression, because they were lethargic, unmotivated had lost their appetite etc. On doing blood tests we might find for instance anaemia or underactive thyroid. That misdiagnosis might never be picked up in patients who were not referred to psychiatry and those patients could remain on antidepressants long term saying (quite rightly in their cases) that they don't work. Since we are talking about autoimmune diseases though I think that if you have a positive diagnosis you can be sure that's what you have however a negative does not mean you don't have it, just there might have been no markers at the time of the test, so again a potential misdiagnosis of no AI disease, though I'm pretty sure no doctors would say that but rather the other way round - that there is no indication of AI disease rather than it's not present.

Got carried away there didn't I? Hope it's of interest.

[tattybogle]

if some one had any solid scientific evidence that this, that, or the other , could actually reverse autoimmune disease ,,,, they would probably be rather keen to publish a paper aimed at medics.

if they didn't have any such evidence, just an idea that may or may not be beneficial , they would more likely write a book and sell it (to lots of desperate people with thus far incurable autoimmune diseases) , and make loads of money.

[FallingInReverse in reply to tattybogle]

Hahahhaaa 🤣

[thyr01d in reply to tattybogle]

Well tattybogle, I kind of agree except that it is in the interests of Pharma to subdue any such info and keep selling their products. With all 'curable' or 'controllable' diseases there has been a point where they were not and then there was a breakthrough and I think that lactose intolerance was not recognised as such for a very long time during which we could have dismissed anyone producing a book on why and how to avoid milk products. So I like to keep an open mind ... and of course hope plays a big part!!! I was hoping someone might have read the book and be able to share their thoughts.

[SmallBlueThing in reply to thyr01d]

Pharma has kept most members of this forum alive for longer than they would be otherwise. Despite the problems, we should be grateful.

[thyr01d in reply to SmallBlueThing]

Ah yes SmallBlueThing, and I am one of them, thanks for the reminder.

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK]

Always try to see what they are selling.

Books?

Courses?

Supplements?

Or are they trying to get people involved in multi-level marketing?

[thyr01d in reply to helvella]

Yes, I always do, which is what made me post the question, I can't help hoping that one day someone will come up with a solution (as in my reply to tattybogle)

[B12again in reply to helvella]

They are after your email address for marketing purposes.

[Singwell]

This is known as a 'lead magnet' in sales techniques. It's a freebie to get you to sign up for endless newsletters and things they want to sell you. Their information leaflet is probably something very generic and what they're really selling is either a paid service, course or product such as supplements. We run our own voice education business, that's how I know 😉

[thyr01d in reply to Singwell]

Yes, that's exactly what I thought, which is why I asked if anyone had read the book and could give an informed opinion.

[radd]

thyr0id

We are all different to how we react to foods but basically there are known pro-inflammatory and anti-inflammatory foods backed up with plenty of scientific research.

As autoimmune sufferers we are more likely susceptible to reaction from these groups. You can find info anywhere by just googling something like ‘anti-inflammatory diet’ or ‘what processed sugar does to your body’.

I agree with singwell that the site you describe is using a common selling technique. If you sign up you will likely receive daily emails containing limited info (to keep you interested) and promises of free e-books and ‘special offers’ on exorbitantly priced cookbook for example.

However, having said all that if you are shrewd enough to look between the obvious forced selling techniques you can sometimes pick up useful information. You could use a second email address for sights like this for safety’s sake.

[thyr01d in reply to radd]

Hi Radd, thanks for the thoughtful and helpful reply, I have never thought of using a second email! Also, I will try your suggestion of 'anti-inflammatory diet' (I've avoided sugar other than fruit sugar almost completely for over 50 years!) because that is just what I need. Every cold causes inflammation on my chest then infection which lasts weeks and is isolating because it's too painful to speak. I have only just discovered that in some people their own mucus causes this reaction and then wondered if it's part of the faulty autoimmune system. Thanks again, I'm off to search 'anti-inflammatory diet'.

[thyr01d in reply to radd]

Hello again Radd, that was very interesting, top anti-inflammatory foods came up as: tomatoes, olive oil, green leafy vegetables, such as spinach, kale, and collards, nuts like almonds and walnuts, fatty fish like salmon, mackerel, tuna, and sardines, and, fruits such as strawberries, blueberries, cherries, and oranges. With this cold I have suddenly started eating masses of tomatoes and orange juice and much more than usual olive oil, almonds and walnuts. Would love the other fruit too. It's amazing how clever the body is.

[AtoZ24 in reply to thyr01d]

That's the same as the Mediterranean diet that has been touted as being best for us anyway!

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK]

For those who use Apple devices, and pay for the lowest tier of iCloud, you have the option of using Hide My Email to create a sort of anonymising mask. You create a new email address and tell the site to use that - but all the mail comes into your usual Apple account.

You can turn off any such masking email address whenever you like.

This is a very effective tactic if you have to sign up to something you are not sure of - and need to supply an email address.

And it almost couldn't be simpler!

This is a link to Apple's own documentation but there are numerous similar descriptions around the web:

Set up and use Hide My Email in iCloud+ on all your devices

support.apple.com/en-gb/gui...

There are several other similar options available - but I don't use them so cannot even suggest one.

 radd

[radd in reply to helvella]

Yes hel, I have used that kinda by mistake 🤣. It's now set up for the app 'Shop' and I'm not sure how to get it off but I don't suppose it matters 🤷‍♀️.

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK in reply to radd]

Go here:

System Settings > (Your Apple ID) > iCloud > Hide My Email

Scroll down list of sites. Click on the one you want to deactivate.

Click on Deactivate email address.

Deactivation dialogue

[radd in reply to helvella]

Oh, thats easy. Thank you. (you're like HU's own IT guide 😁).

And now for the purpose of others who might wish to try this at home 😬 .... can you please advise how I tell an ambiguous site to use that email address?

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK in reply to radd]

Either create an email address and just copy and paste it into the site when it asks for an email.

Or, as you are filling in the email box, choose Hide My Email and it will create one for you - and link it to that site.

I think you have to use Safari for that super-easy approach but if you pre-create an email, you can paste it whatever browser you are using.

Don't think I have ever used it on my phone for the first time! Always on a laptop/desktop.

[radd in reply to helvella]

Thank you 🙏

[thyr01d in reply to helvella]

Thank you

[PaleoGirl]

you can read about the autoimmune protocol and scientific research into its efficacy here: autoimmunewellness.com/auto... including for Hashimoto’s

[thyr01d in reply to PaleoGirl]

Thank you PaleoGirl, this might be just what I'm after 😀

[thyr01d in reply to PaleoGirl]

Hmm, a study of 17, I used to work in medical research and imho given the huge number of people with Hashimoto's that wouldn't be sufficient participants to be considered valid.

[PaleoGirl in reply to thyr01d]

More sharing the information out of interest and who knows how things might be pursued in the future - an evolving picture. The work of Datis Kharrazian, PhD, DHSc, DC, MS, MMSc, FACN, a clinical research scientist, academic professor, and a functional medicine health care provider who is developing evidence-based models to treat autoimmune, neurological, and unidentified chronic diseases with non-pharmaceutical applications is also interesting in this field. Not curing but aiming for remission.

[Snowdrops_17]

Well I read this a couple of days ago about this actress being diagnosed with Graves Disease 👌You might find this extremely interesting and with medication and change in her diet, she is controlling this 👍🙏💕

bbc.com/news/articles/cy0rl...

[tattybogle in reply to Snowdrops_17]

the article is lacking necessary details though ... it doesn't mention if she was/ is still taking an antithyroid drug (ie. carbimazole).

so for all we know, taking carbimazole is what is 'controlling it', rather than any lifestyle/diet changes... although obviously things like that are likely to contribute to helping someone feel better.

[thyr01d in reply to Snowdrops_17]

Thank you Snowdrops (beautiful name), it does look interesting.

[Mlinde]

I checked the site and anything offering a complete cure seems a bit suspect to me. And their site, full of beaming photographs of the 'experts', promising a cure for all our ills, has all the looks of snake oil but they do offer discounts on all their products. Hmmm....

[thyr01d]

Hi Mlinde, that's what I thought too, however here's my reply to tattybogle who thought the same: I kind of agree except that it is in the interests of Pharma to subdue any such info and keep selling their products. With all 'curable' or 'controllable' diseases there has been a point where they were not and then there was a breakthrough and I think that lactose intolerance was not recognised as such for a very long time during which we could have dismissed anyone producing a book on why and how to avoid milk products. So I like to keep an open mind ... and of course hope plays a big part!!! I was hoping someone might have read the book and be able to share their thoughts.

[Snowdrops_17]

medicalnewstoday.com/articl...

Well that's a 🔗 link and sound food advice when you suffer with overactive thyroid symptoms !

I use this website very often and know I can rely on what's written here 👍👌