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I have had problems with one eye for 9 months now. Started with gritty feeling, watering eye. Inflammation and baggy eye bags. Then fatty bumps appeared to be coming through above one eye, and one eye ball seems slightly higher than the other, and pushed forward slightly.

Then came the double vision, but this comes and goes, bad in the morning when I wake up, then ok during the day, then about 3pm it starts again, as I get more tired. This is the worst bit as it is so disorientating, and I feel unsure crossing the road even. My long sight in one eye has also deteriorated quite quickly, it seems that eye is slower to move/catch up with the other. Watching TV the screens look very far apart, one on top of the other.

My opthalmologist says she's reluctant to diagnose TED because my TSH, T3 and T4 are normal, though all low end of normal. However, my TRAB (TSH receptor Antibody) test came back positive at 2.6. She thinks it is Myasthenia Gravis... but I don't have any of those symptoms. Or possibly Sjogrens Syndrome.

Also, does anyone think that HRT is linked to Thyroid Eye disease, and should I come off it? It's the only drug I take, and so far I have lived an extremely healthy life with no illness at all. No family history either.

Also I feel really anxious all of the time.

Does this sound like TED to you?

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Welcome to the forum Agh2001,

Most people who develop TED have an overactive thyroid and Grave’s Disease, whereas some have it with an under active thyroid/ Hashimotos (like myself) and a few have it who are euthyroid (no thyroid condition). It would be useful for you to share your thyroid blood test results (and ranges).

I recommend you take a Selenium supplement, 200ug daily, as this has showed to help in mild/ moderate TED when taken in the first 6 months. Many take a maintenance dose of 100ug daily when the active phase of the condition has passed. Preservative free lubricating eye drops are important, such as HycoSan or Hyloforte. For light sensitivity wear sunglasses (even indoors if needed). If you have any eye pain, my TED ophthalmologist said to take ibuprofen (with food to protect your stomach). Also worth doing is using 2 pillows at night, to elevate your head.

I recommend you take ongoing photos of your eyes/ alignment and store in ‘hidden’ on your phone, as you don’t want to be looking at them all the time. Having this bank of photos over time is useful when I have both endocrinology and ophthalmology appointments.

I also take lutein & zeazanthin for overall eye health, so this is worth considering if you have any concerns about your vision.

Above all, please don’t overdo it on Google images, as they show ‘worst case’ scenarios.

I received great advice and support from TEDct, so do get their information pack. They run a telephone advice line, hold regular webinars and have a Facebook group. TEDct helped me find a TED specialist ophthalmologist in my area.

I have never heard of a link between HRT and TED, so I wouldn’t worry about stopping this medication.

Please be reassured, my eyes now look nothing like they did when my TED was active, so try not to panic. For me, huge sunglasses and bright lipstick helped me have confidence to face the world.

Please keep posting if you need any further advice or support.

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There is at least some evidence that TSH receptor antibodies are a critical part of TED.

However, both stimulating AND blocking antibodies appear to act similarly with respect to TED. And, whereas the stimulating form will lead to Graves Disease (hyperthyroidism), the blocking form might lead to Hashimoto's or hypothyroidism. (Though I suspect there is also the possibility of there being little overall impact on thyroid hormone levels.)

I just happened to have this piece of the Thyroid Diseases Manager open when you posted!

Autoimmunity to the Thyroid Gland

Last Updated: January 14, 2016

thyroidmanager.org/chapter/...

I signed up years ago - and that is needed to get access.

And something I put into lots of replies where people mention results being normal! Especially if that is what a doctor has said.

This is a link to a very good article in the British Medical Journal discussing what the 'normal range' really is. Very readable.

The normal range: it is not normal and it is not a range

helvella.blogspot.com/p/the...

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SlowDragonAdministrator

My opthalmologist says she's reluctant to diagnose TED because my TSH, T3 and T4 are normal, though all low end of normal. However, my TRAB (TSH receptor Antibody) test came back positive at 2.6.

Please add actual TSH, Ft4 and Ft3 results and ranges

Was test done early morning

ESSENTIAL to also test vitamin D, folate, B12, ferritin and BOTH TPO and TG antibodies for autoimmune HYPOthyroid disease ( hashimoto’s)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

Post all about what time of day to test

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Testing options and includes money off codes for private testing

thyroiduk.org/testing/

Medichecks Thyroid plus BOTH TPO and TG antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes BOTH TPO and TG antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning.

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/testing/thyro...

Link about Hashimoto’s

thyroiduk.org/hypothyroid-b...

Symptoms of hypothyroidism

thyroiduk.org/signs-and-sym...

Tips on how to do DIY finger prick test

support.medichecks.com/hc/e...

Medichecks and BH also offer private blood draw at clinic near you, or private nurse to your own home…..for an extra fee

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asiatic

As someone with TED - Yes it does sound like TED which can run independently from Graves and you have the antibodies that cause it. Mine was confirmed with a MRI. Like you, double vision was intermittent at first and I would close one eye for safety crossing roads. When it deteriorated I was given a stick on prism which really helped. TED plateaus then tails off and you can't really know at the start if double vision will be permanent. Buddy has given you good strategies for coping and it would be good to know your actual thyroid results. My eyes deteriorated while my fT3 was low in range.

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Buddy195Administrator in reply to asiatic

As asiatic, my eyes improved so much when FT3 was higher in range.

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