toxic metal test results

[CornishChick]

I’m not sure if people on here can give their thoughts on my provoked urine test please? I’ve never had one done before

Many thanks if so.

[humanbean]

I think more people would be able to read your results if you cut it in half so the results were in one photo and the blurb underneath it is in a second photo. And post your photos in two separate replies rather than in the first post in the thread, because its simply too small.

Alternatively, you could post the results and ranges in text form, then add the blurb in a photo.

[Bertwills]

Yours looks a lot better than mine did! I couldn’t see the detail very well. Are there any that concern you particularly? When I had mine done I was instructed to do a hair sample too as the results of the 2 types of tests can be more informative.

[CornishChick in reply to Bertwills]

I don’t know what the levels should be, obviously lead is a bit over but is that ok because it isn’t dire?

[Bertwills in reply to CornishChick]

You have just a few things in the hello box & none in the red so I think you’re ok. I had much higher readings on many metals & arsenic. Don’t know why. I’ve had my mercury fillings removed & done some detoxification but haven’t tested yet to see if there’s been an improvement. I hope so. I wouldn’t worry about yours unless your functional doctor says you should. I’d be surprised.

[SlowDragon Administrator]

add image in a reply

It will be more readable

[CornishChick in reply to SlowDragon]

Thanks I have done this now

[TiggerMe]

Nothing too terrible!

Do you eat a lot of seafood? Might account for the mercury

I can make out that one of the higher ones is lead have you checked that your water feed to the house isn't still lead?

You can access a water report for your area from your supplier, I'm thinking Cornwall is rich in some of these things

[ainslie in reply to TiggerMe]

Tuna is high in mercury

[Megams in reply to ainslie]

~A Functional Doctor once told me the same - tuna high in mercury so never touched it since~

[CornishChick in reply to ainslie]

Thanks, I hate tinned tuna and rarely have fresh,

[CornishChick in reply to TiggerMe]

I believe lead pipes were banned in 1969 which is when my current house of 12 years was built. However grew up in a 1950s house for 23 years, then lived in a Victorian house for 6 years. I presume my current house is ok. I have started to filter my water again. I will access a report, thank you. I do know the sea water contains a lot of sewerage, but that’s another matter!

[CornishChick in reply to TiggerMe]

ps I like seafood but realistically have it once or twice a month if that.

[Batty1]

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[CornishChick in reply to Batty1]

I have reloaded for you.

[Batty1 in reply to CornishChick]

Cesium = Hypercalcemia according to what I just read.

[CornishChick]

I will respond to replies shortly, have to sleep!

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[radd in reply to CornishChick]

CC,

I did the Genova Toxic Element Clearance profile with Smart DMSA in 2016, which showed elevated platinum, tin, lead mercury, etc. I then had all amalgam removed and my chelation program included Captomer, Metalipoate300, NAC, Milk Thistle, binders and a whole plentiful cocktail of nutritional supplements to replace those lost along with the metals.

I was suppose to chelate for a year but gave up after about 7-8 months as it was a time consuming commitment and I felt so much better. I believe the removal of heavy metals allowed my T3 meds and other hormones to work better. I completed another Genova test one year later and all elevated results had reduced resulting in ‘normalised’ limits.

I don't think your results are anywhere near as high as mine were but as clearance/detoxification issues are common (think MTHFR mutations) and you've started this investigation it might be worth completing a collation program which I thought of as like a spring clean 😊

The Impact Of Genetic Variation On metabolism of Heavy Metals ..... sciencedirect.com/science/a...

(and less 'heavy' reading 😁) Key Toxins That Affect Our Biochemistry. ..... mthfrsupport.com.au/2020/01....

[CornishChick in reply to radd]

Wow that’s really interesting. I don’t really know where to start. I’ve just appointed a functional doctor finally which I’ve wanted to for years but unable due to money. Hopefully she might guide me through it as I’m not as clever as you.

I was hoping you may give your opinion on my cortisol saliva test too. I am not sure how to attach it and wondered if you’d could cast an eye please if you get a moment? Thank you.

[radd in reply to CornishChick]

CC,

I did read your post and your cortisol levels are appalling low. As we have previously discussed the fact your adrenals produced enough cortisol when artificially stimulated discounts them as the problem but doesn’t necessarily confirm a pituitary or hypothalamus issue. These are what medics are looking for but in my opinion there is also another cause completely misunderstood and ignored and that is signalling issues caused by years of low thyroid hormone and chronic inflammation that actually reverse when the underlying causes are addressed.

I posted my old saliva test results a few weeks ago on one of tiggers posts showing my cortisol remained under range for years and years, possibly since my teens, and I was very ill. However, amazingly it has now normalised along with other adrenal hormones. Sadly it is not unusual on the forum to suffer insufficient cortisol levels.

I would suggest you don’t increase your LDN dose. It is called LDN (Low Dose Naltrexone) for a reason, and that is a low dose’s purpose is different to an increased dose, presuming you are taking it to reduce elevated levels of thyroid antibodies and not as an opioid antagonist. The low dose works by increasing the body’s production of the beta and metenkephalin endorphins which appear to increase natural killer cell activity that balance an over active (auto) immune system. However, doubling the dose does not double the effects, A bit like the aspirin saying.

I too was guided by a health professional through my chelation. I wouldn’t have had a clue how to tackle high levels of heavy metals, and would likely have never known had I not been so desperate to get better that investigating became an only option. I am now reducing mould overload 🙄 with another health professional. I think my detox systems must be pretty naff.

[CornishChick in reply to radd]

Thank you so much Radd. When you say the underlying causes are addressed, how would I address years of low thyroid and chronic inflammation?

Thanks for the LDN tip. I started taking it to help lower my antibodies and possibly help my vitiligo plus I understood it may raise my cortisol.

Should I be going down the adrenal cortex route or try and get hydrocortisone off my functional doctor? I’ve wasted 20 years of my life, have missed most of my children’s childhood and I don’t have much more time to waste. I have a supportive husband, but fairly sure he’s fed up with me!

Thank you.

[CornishChick in reply to radd]

Did your cortisol increase purely by removing heavy metals?

Did you have signalling issues? Is there anything else which needs to be done other than removing metals to sort out signalling issues please?

[radd in reply to CornishChick]

CC,

No one can know the exact cause that brings us wellbeing and I suspect its a combination of trials and tests I undertook each time my small progress hit another brick wall. This was over a long duration and my journey is documented within my profile. Just click on my avatar or name to read it.

[CornishChick in reply to CornishChick]

SlowDragon attached results as advised many thanks if you’re able to help.

[SlowDragon Administrator in reply to CornishChick]

No suggestions…..sorry

Looking at Thallium …..did you, or do you smoke?

[CornishChick in reply to SlowDragon]

No never had a drag in 50 years, despise smoking.

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK]

One of the few things for which a reasonably comprehensive assay is available is your water supply.

Suggest you go to your water company's web site and see how to get hold of that. For one example, if your water supply has effectively no lead in it, then any you would realistically have to look elsewhere. (Even if that included your domestic plumbing.)

[CornishChick in reply to helvella]

Thank you. I use a water filter, would that eliminate lead and other nasties? Fairly sure our house pipes will be okay in a 1969 built house. I’ll check with the local water board.

[TiggerMe in reply to CornishChick]

Water filters won't remove lead... found this out whilst waiting to get our lead main changed 🫤

[CornishChick in reply to TiggerMe]

How did you find out your mains were lead? Did you have to pay a plumber?

[TiggerMe in reply to CornishChick]

If you have a stop tap on your boundary you might be able to see the connection or where it comes into the house, you need to send them a picture if you think you have lead and they will come and replace the bit from the boundary to the main but only once the house is lead free (at your expense)

[CornishChick in reply to TiggerMe]

Ok thanks. Am fairly sure our house will be lead free. So I end the local water board a photo?

[TiggerMe in reply to CornishChick]

If you find your feed is lead they will replace it, when you go to their site for the water quality results have a search for lead replacement, like you say your property should be ok if built after the ban but....

[TiggerMe in reply to TiggerMe]

Their advice if you do still have a lead feed is to run the tap for 20 minutes first...

[CornishChick in reply to TiggerMe]

Some of them do, even Brita, my functional doctor told me. If you look at their website, they do an Elite filter which does remove lead.

Filter

[helvella Administrator Thyroid UK in reply to CornishChick]

Your own pipes, and the main that feeds them might be fine. But the water source itself needs to be considered. And that is what the water companies have to make readily available.

For me (just as an example):

Parameter Lead

Unit of Measurement μg/l

No. Samples Taken 8

Average 0.0638

Max Value 0.16

Limit % 10.00

Compliance 100.00

[CornishChick]

I have obtained my local water composition. I’ll attach it here and hopefully you can zoom in on lead to advise, as it means nothing to me. Thank you.

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