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Follow up bloods from 3 weeks back

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As you can see I now have my bloods back and looks like I need to increase my Thyroxine as both TSH and T4 are and issue? My test was in the morning and I had not had any medication for around 30 hours. The Cortisol is also elevated.

Any pointers would be good.

Thanks

Alex

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looking at previous posts

You’re on 100mcg levothyroxine and 20mcg T3 ?

Which brand levothyroxine and which brand T3

Anything changed recently

what vitamin supplements are you taking

B12 and folate low

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Axleg in reply toSlowDragon

The only vits I take are Borroca! Not sure that covers what I'm needing.

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Suggest you get a good quality separate B12 and a good quality daily vitamin B complex

Low B12 symptoms

b12deficiency.info/signs-an...

methyl-life.com/blogs/defic...

With serum B12 result below 500, (Or active B12 below 70) recommended to be taking a separate B12 supplement and a week later add a separate vitamin B Complex 

Then once your serum B12 is over 500 (or Active B12 level has reached 70), you may be able to reduce then stop the B12 and just carry on with the B Complex.

If Vegetarian or vegan likely to need ongoing separate B12 few times a week

Highly effective B12 drops

natureprovides.com/products...

Or

B12 sublingual lozenges

uk.iherb.com/pr/jarrow-form...

cytoplan.co.uk/shop-by-prod...

B12 range in U.K. is too wide

Interesting that in this research B12 below 400 is considered inadequate

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Low folate

supplementing a good quality daily vitamin B complex, one with folate in (not folic acid)

This can help keep all B vitamins in balance and will help maintain B12 levels too

Difference between folate and folic acid

healthline.com/nutrition/fo...

B vitamins best taken after breakfast

Thorne Basic B recommended vitamin B complex that contains folate, but they are large capsules. (You can tip powder out if can’t swallow capsule)

Thorne currently difficult to find at reasonable price, should be around £20-£25. iherb.com often have in stock. Or try ebay

Igennus B complex popular option too. Nice small tablets. Most people only find they need one per day. But a few people find it’s not high enough dose

Post discussing different B complex

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

IMPORTANT......If you are taking vitamin B complex, or any supplements containing biotin, remember to stop these 7 days before ALL BLOOD TESTS , as biotin can falsely affect test results

endo.confex.com/endo/2016en...

endocrinenews.endocrine.org...

In week before blood test, when you stop vitamin B complex, you might want to consider taking a separate folate supplement (eg Jarrow methyl folate 400mcg) and continue separate B12

Post discussing how biotin can affect test results

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...

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Axleg in reply toSlowDragon

My T3 is Aristo currently. Thanks

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toAxleg

You mean your levothyroxine

T3 in U.K. on NHS

Teva, Morningside or Mercury Pharma

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Axleg in reply toSlowDragon

NHS.

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Aristo (now Vencamil) only make T4?

Presumably you are taking Teva T3 if lactose intolerant?

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So you are getting a bit of a false low by leaving it 30 hours rather than 24 but you are absolutely in need of an increase of 25mcg and retest in 6-8 weeks, you'd also benefit from improving your folate and B12 levels and Vit D ideally needs to be 100-150... do you already take any supplements?

EDIT!... I see you are on combined T3 & 4 so leaving 30 hours after T3 means this reading is totally inaccurate as T3 has a short life, I would say you are ok to increase your T4 but keep your T3 the same until you have retested leaving 24 hours after last T4 and 8-12 after last T3 having split your dose into 2 the day before, pre 9am test nothing but water before

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