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Hello. i had psoriasis first start when i was 6 years old. i don’t remember the solution back then but it disappeared and now i have over 20 years later gotten a flare up 1 year after i got diagnosed with hypothyroidism.

i’m currently on eltroxin 100mg and i’m wondering if anyone has been in a similar situation?

i’m lost to what i can do. i got steroid ointments but they are not helping nearly enough and new flare ups areive

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greygoose

I've been hypo most of my life, but only developped psoriasis earlier this year, during a period of great stress. The stress eased and it died down. Now, I'm getting a bit stressed again, and it's flared up again. I'm on T3 only.

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HealthStarDust

Psoriasis is common symptom of hypothyroidism. If it’s a flared up again, it may be time to consider your dose With that said, any external factor can put you extra demand on your body, thus more for the hormone to do. So, it may be an idea to see if it passes and returns. Mine for example is persistent. Meanwhile, I highly recommend the Eucerin brand.

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WhisperSoftly in reply to HealthStarDust

Eucerin Lotion or cream? I use Derma E Eczema Relief Cream a suggestion! Aquaphor helps to protect the dry skin using a very small amount rubbed in gently. It helps me!

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HealthStarDust in reply to WhisperSoftly

The brand itself. What will be best for you you will now by the process of elimination.

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minawir in reply to HealthStarDust

thank you. the only change was weather change which isn’t anything new but i gueee the body was particularly disliking it

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HealthStarDust in reply to minawir

Thyroid hates weather fluctuations. Hope it settles. It’s on of those symptoms that I especially dislike.

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Batty1 in reply to HealthStarDust

Its not a symptom it’s a disease and yes hypothyroidism and psoriasis can go hand in hand .

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HealthStarDust in reply to Batty1

For me, when these stand alone diseases form part of the hypothyroidism, it’s more helpful to think of them as symptoms stemming from the overarching disease.

But, semantics in medical lexicon is very little use to treating either.

Thank you for input anyway.

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Batty1 in reply to HealthStarDust

Sorry we can agree to disagree psoriasis is a disease that does not go away and when it does go away for some its not for long …. To not seek treatments for this condition could come with consequences down the road.

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HealthStarDust in reply to Batty1

Happy to agree to disagree which is what I thought I did. Perhaps not succinctly enough. In any case, I doubt such posts helps minawir in any case.

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arTistapple

Some Complementary health groups are of the opinion that the best treatment for psoriasis is to leave it well alone. I have observed this in three people I know, who were able to leave it alone. I also know others who did not heed this advice and now have serious issues with it. I would not at all be surprised it having a relationship with thyroid issues.

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minawir in reply to arTistapple

i tried leaving it alone and it evolved into psoriasis arthritis

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Batty1 in reply to arTistapple

Leave it alone is not something people with psoriasis should do and one might consider that your 3 friends may not actually have psoriasis but a form of eczema which is often mistaken for psoriasis even by doctors which is pretty sad when you think about it.

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arTistapple in reply to Batty1

Honestly Batty1 that may be your experience but it’s not what I have observed. It’s like so many people who experience eczema when treated, they then may experience asthma. The two conditions are known, even in medical circles to alternate. It’s all very well for people like me to say I’d rather have eczema than asthma or psoriasis over sarcoidosis but I am fortunate I have neither. It’s just an observation and I am airing it.

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Batty1 in reply to arTistapple

I rather have no diseases and unfortunately thats just not the case for me. Leaving psoriasis alone is not a smart idea.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK

minawir,

It would help if you added (and made visible) your country to your profile.

There are suggestions of specific product brands which might well not be available in Denmark (or Thailand - if you are still there).

Members replying might have made more general suggestions if they knew your location. E.g. avoided saying "Eucerin".

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minawir in reply to helvella

it’s okay all suggestions are available in both locations.

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minawir in reply to helvella

helvella, i saw your ingredients list and i noticed eltroxin has lactose in it. i’m lactose intolerant and only just came to wonder after another comment in this thread here.

am i overthinking this or can this actually cause my skin to flare up 😩

what’s another solution of mine if eltroxin is in fact the culprit.

do i swap it out with another levo and if so which one?

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to minawir

In the UK, the options are Teva and Aristo (Vencamil). Worldwide, new formulation Merck has mannitol rather than lactose. L-Thyroxin Henning is also lactose-free.

Afraid those are the ones that come to mind. For everything else, have a look at my documents - but the Rest of the World is not complete.

helvella's medicines documents (UK and Rest of the World) can be found here:

helvella - Thyroid Hormone Medicines

helvella has created, and tries to maintain, documents containing details of all thyroid hormone medicines in the UK and, in less detail, many others around the world.

This link takes you to a page which has direct links to the documents from Dropbox and Google Drive, and QR codes to make it easy to access from phones.

The UK document contains up-to-date versions of the Summary Matrix for tablets, oral solutions and liothyronine available in the UK.

helvella.blogspot.com/p/hel...

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Delgor

minawir

Psoriasis is another auto-immune condition which is connected a lot with hypothyroidism. On reading up I found that psoriasis patients were commonly deficient in selenium and vit D as well as having abnormal levels of copper or zinc so if you haven't already done so it could prove worthwhile checking out these vitamins and minerals. I had scalp psoriasis for over 20 years and was amazed to find that after starting 100 mcg of selenium daily it was completely eradicated although I now have small patches on my elbows which certainly started with stress. I also found that I was deficient in zinc which I'm now also taking daily - zinc and copper need to be balanced in the body and very often hypos find they are deficient in one or the other. My vit D has been good for years but I also found direct sunshine would also alleviate symptoms (15 mins without sunscreen).

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arTistapple in reply to Delgor

Yes I momentarily forgot about this experience of yours Delgor. It’s my son-in-law who only recently would not leave the psoriasis alone. I told him about the selenium as I thought that was more inside to outside and a more likely route to help than topical, outside to inside. However he would not have it. Now he has one of those ‘useless’ diagnoses that they can’t treat. Sarcoidosis in his lungs at only 44 and this over a very short period of time. Another friend over a much longer period who has psoriatic arthritis now also has sarcoidosis. However to minawir this provides no proof whatsoever of any definitive way to treat psoriasis and I apologise if that’s the way it came across. Like everything we read on here it’s a matter of trying and testing as individuals. Some things work for some and not for others.

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Delgor in reply to arTistapple

Your last sentence sums it up Art in that we are all individuals and it is a matter of trying and testing to find out what works for us. I was merely relating to minawir what I had read in case it could be of help to her in any way. I'm sorry to hear about your son-in-law and friend and neither have I ruled out yet that I may too have psoriatic arthritis as my diagnosis of spondylosis seems to encompass an umbrella term for arthritis of the spine - only time will tell🤗

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minawir in reply to Delgor

i’m happy to hear that selenium helped you. i can always try and continue or swap out the selenium and see if this can change anything

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arTistapple in reply to Delgor

Me too. I think once we are in the position we are in, we probably all have these thoughts. “Only time will tell”.

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Batty1 in reply to Delgor

You can’t eradicate psoriasis with anything its the gift that keeps on giving you can be one of the lucky ones and have a remission but that might not last long ….I definitely believe people with psoriasis have many deficiencies and allergies its just a sad disease.

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Delgor in reply to Batty1

I have to admit Batty that nobody was more surprised than me when my scalp cleared completely after taking selenium. I had already gone dairy, gluten, soy and caffeine free a couple of years ago after doing a blood test for food intolerances. I also only ever supplement with one thing at a time to see if I have a bad reaction or not so I can categorically say that it was the selenium that did the trick for me with regard to my scalp (8 months now) so I'm hoping it will be permanent.

Yes, I think you are right in saying that people with psoriasis have many deficiencies and intolerances or allergies but that seems to be the way of most auto-immune diseases☹️

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catrich in reply to Batty1

There are plenty of people who have had psoriasis for many years then find that they don't. So it can be 'eradicated'. There is the thought that leaky gut is the culprit: sort that out, you sort the psoriasis. Or eczema. Or inflammation. Or etc etc. Deficiencies and allergies included. I have had psoriasis on both soles since earlier this year. And a recurrence of psoriasis on my scalp, which I had for many many years when I was younger. I suspect that I too have psoriatic arthritis...and reluctantly will be seeing someone about that this week. I am one month into an exclusion diet. Is it better? Yes. Is it cured? No. But one month is a very short time.

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Batty1 in reply to catrich

Reluctantly you will see a Rheumatologist for possible psoriatic arthritis.. “Wow” I was bedridden and housebound for two years from psoriatic arthritis and to say its can be cured by diet is actually false now Im not saying proper diet isn’t helpful but so is lotions but its not a cure or everyone would have clear skin.

Have a nice day!

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minawir in reply to catrich

i’m actually in the same situation. yesterday i decided to book for a gut micro biome test and see if i can solve the likely leaky gut. alongside an intolerance test.

i’m wondering if any has tried this

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Delgor in reply to minawir

That sounds like a really good idea! I had a funny feeling that I had leaky gut after reading up about it and so did an online blood test for food intolerances which was expensive but very detailed. For eg. I was intolerant to cows, goat and sheeps milk (it wasn't the lactose but the protein casein) and certain nuts but not all nuts, wheat and barley especially but not all grains etc etc. The test included an appt. with a nutritionist who was wonderful and made me completely review what I had been eatlng and changed how I ate forever.

A lot of people with hypothyrodism feel a lot better for going completely gluten free and there are others who need to go dairy free as well so yes it would pay you to eliminate a group and start reading labels on everything. Again from reading up, it would seem that a lot of disease starts in the gut and getting a microbiome test can only surely help. Wishing you every success🤗

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minawir in reply to Delgor

i’ve started on these after i read they could be beneficial. always have taken vitamin d3 and b12 but added selenium, zinc - nothing changed yet and been 2 months. i’m hopeful

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Delgor in reply to minawir

It was definitely the selenium that did it for me - I only ever started taking zinc well after but as has already been said we are all different and what works for one may not work for another but I do wish you well🤞🤞

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Batty1

I have psoriasis too and you should check out Helvella thyroid medication ingredients list …. I can’t take anything with Acacia in it or my skin goes crazy.

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minawir in reply to Batty1

interesting. i’ll definitely have a look. i’m lactose intolerant and i noticed that on that list the medicine i’m taking, eltroxin contains lactose.

if this is something that might cause me to develop psoriasis what other options do i have

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Batty1 in reply to minawir

Only thing that makes you develop psoriasis is genetics but intolerance to certain things can definitely bring on a flare …. I have been living with moderate to severe psoriasis for 48 years that actually started after receiving a bad cut during an accident ( Koebners phenomenon) but I have a family history of psoriasis (father and grandmother) and now my older siblings are starting to experience the gift but much milder then me …. Im 80 to 90% covered with psoriasis when I wasn’t being treated and now that Im under treatment I have maybe 1% but I developed psoriatic arthritis after losing my thyroid to cancer 7 years ago.

Can they test for zinc deficiencies?

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minawir in reply to Batty1

yea my family has a history of thyroid issues and psoriasis. mom now has both as well. but her dads sister also had the same.

i had it when i was a kid and it didn’t flare up for over 20 years. only 1 year after i started eltroxin and was diagnosed with hypothyroidism the flare returned.

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Batty1 in reply to minawir

If your thyroid medication is the “only” thing that you have added since you started flaring I would look up Helvella’s thyroid medication ingredients list .

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minawir in reply to Batty1

it’s been the only major adding. oddly in this period i was doing a few “new” things and discovered it after an infrared sauna session that i had recently tried. i’ve however stopped that to see if this was the cause. but sadly the flare ups only got worse since stopping

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minawir in reply to Batty1

yes zinc looks fine. i’m also taking supplements

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Fdodd

My psoriasis flares up if I eat any gluten, Going GF cleared has mine up completely.

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minawir in reply to Fdodd

did you do an elimination diet to know this was the culprit? :)

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