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I have been diagnosed with an under active thyroid for 15years. It’s always been very stable and responded well to thyroxine replacement. I’m now 36 and since having my son who is 3 by thyroid function has been completely of kilter. I’ve been overmedicated and under medicated over the past couple of years and unsure why. My thyroid function was stable until two years ago, even through 2 pregnancies.

My latest bloods on 175mcg are t4 9.2 and TSH 53.06.

My dose was decreased from 200mcg a day to the 175mcg as I was borderline hyperactive and experiencing palpitations and tachyarrhythmias.

I’m under the care of endocrine now, rather than being managed by my gp.

Any ideas as to what might be going on? My paternal aunt had thyroid cancer. Am I able to ask for a thyroid scan? I last had one at diagnosis.

Thanks

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You had some excellent replies to your post some months ago that you haven't responded to.

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Are you taking Levo on an empty stomach 1 hour before food or caffeine containing drinks?

Are you taking any other meds that might be affecting absorption - PPIs, magnesium, iron for example?

It looked like your GP was making heavy handed dose adjustments. Maximum adjustment up or down should be 25mcgs, 12.5mcgs is also an option or alternate day dosing.

What are your latest vitamin results - ferritin, folate, B12 & d3?

What supplements are you taking?

When hypo we get low stomach acid which means we cannot absorb vitamins well from our food, regardless of a great diet. For thyroid hormone to work well we need OPTIMAL levels of vitamins. Have you recently or could you ask your GP to test levels of ferritin, folate, B12 & D3? Private tests are available, see link for companies offering private blood tests & discount codes, some offer a blood draw service at an extra cost. thyroiduk.org/help-and-supp...

There is also a new company offering walk in & mail order blood tests in London, Kent, Sussex & Surrey areas. Check to see if there is a blood test company near you. onedaytests.com/products/ul...

Only do private tests on a Monday or Tuesday to avoid postal delays.

Do you know if you had positive thyroid antibodies? Many with autoimmune thyroid disease aka Hashimoto's benefit from a gluten free diet. A smaller percentage of those also need to remove dairy from their diet to feel well. These are intolerances and will not show up on any blood test.

It's ideal if you can always get the same brand of levo at every prescription. You can do this by getting GP to write the brand you prefer in the first line of the prescription. Many people find that different brands are not interchangeable.

Recommended blood test protocol: Test at 9am (or as close as possible), fasting, last levo dose 24hrs before the blood draw, last T3 dose 8-12 hours before blood draw & no biotin containing supplements for 3-7 days (Biotin can interfere with thyroid blood results as it is used in the testing process)? Testing like this gives consistency in your results and will show stable blood levels of hormone and highest TSH which varies throughout the day. Taking Levo/T3 just prior to blood draw can show a falsely elevated result and your GP/Endo might change your dose incorrectly as a result.

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Kelwhiteyx in reply to Jaydee1507

Thanks for you’re reply.

The only levels I have are TSH and T4. No other levels reported.

I have recently paid for a scan of my thyroid privately.

Left lobe found to be 8x5x8mm and right lobe 8x5x8mm.

Looking at articles it appears I have atrophy of the thyroid. My consultant Endo previously has said I have Hashimoto’s

Dose has been increased to 200mcg a day. Again.

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which brand of levothyroxine are you taking

My latest bloods on 175mcg are t4 9.2 and TSH 53.06.

How long since dose was reduced

Please add range on Ft4 result

Recommended that all thyroid blood tests early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

is this how you did your test?

Request SMALL increase in levothyroxine- to 187.5mcg per day

Make sure all levothyroxine is same brand

If Mercury Pharma or Eltroxin by Advanz

100mcg, 50mcg and 25mcg plus 1/2 a 25mcg tablet

If Accord or Almus

100mcg, 50mcg plus 3/4 of another 50mcg tablet

If Teva

100mcg plus 75mcg plus half a 25mcg tablet

What vitamin supplements are you currently taking

Looking at previous posts are you still taking propranolol and if yes how much

First step is to get FULL thyroid and vitamin testing

Bloods should be retested 6-8 weeks after each dose change or brand change in levothyroxine

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 tested

Also both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested at least once

Very important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 at least once year minimum

Request GP test thyroid antibodies and vitamins

About 90% of primary hypothyroidism is autoimmune thyroid disease, usually diagnosed by high thyroid antibodies

Autoimmune thyroid disease with goitre is Hashimoto’s

Autoimmune thyroid disease without goitre is Ord’s thyroiditis.

Both are autoimmune and generally called Hashimoto’s.

Low vitamin levels are extremely common when hypothyroid, especially with autoimmune thyroid disease

20% of autoimmune thyroid patients never have high thyroid antibodies and ultrasound scan of thyroid can get diagnosis

In U.K. medics hardly ever refer to autoimmune thyroid disease as Hashimoto’s (or Ord’s thyroiditis)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

List of private testing options and money off codes

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Medichecks Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins

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Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

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Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning.

Link about thyroid blood tests

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Link about Hashimoto’s

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Symptoms of hypothyroidism

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Tips on how to do DIY finger prick test

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Medichecks and BH also offer private blood draw at clinic near you, or private nurse to your own home…..for an extra fee

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