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I’m exhausted and weight increase of 12lbs in 14 months

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Hi, just looking for some advice, please….

I was diagnosed with an under active thyroid some six years ago. Initially the medication (Levothyroxine) made me feel much better and despite needing one small increase two years ago things have been fairly stable. However, my symptoms have returned and appear to be worse than ever (scaly skin, fatigue, brain fog) and myweight has increased by 12lbs - and I’ve been the same weight pretty much for more than 20 years, I’m 48, 5’3” and now weigh 9st 12lbs. I used to be able to exercise regularly but I currently struggle to walk the dog, and can’t seem to energise myself at all. My recent results are within range and the GP carried out further tests and found nothing out of the ordinary…but I wonder if there’s anything else I can do.? I take the medication at the same time every morning and observe the no caffeine/food rule for half an hour.

TSH 0.78/FT4 19.4/FT3 3.9

100mcg Levo.

Thanks

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PurpleNailsAdministrator

Welcome to forum

I see your results TSH 0.78/FT4 19.4/FT3 3.9 & that doctor tells you they are in range.But what’s the range? Ranges vary between labs & you need them for every test.

FT3 looks low (by some ranges)

What else was tested?  Ferritin, folate, vitamin D & B12 are useful to know were they tested?

For testing its recommend you : 

book blood draw for thyroid early in morning.  

Fast overnight, 

delay levo until after 

Avoid biotin supplements 3 days before (can skew results)

Was test under these conditions? 

Do you take any supplements? 

Do you always have same brand of Levo dispensed? 

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Alwaystired2 in reply to PurpleNails

Hi, thanks😊

Ranges with my results in brackets TSH, 0.27- 4.2 (0.78); FT4, 12-22 (19.4); FT3, 3.1-6.8 (3.9).

Test was under all conditions listed, I currently take vitamin c and vitamin d but not until midday. I think the brand has always been the same, certainly last couple of years.

Thanks for your help.

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PurpleNailsAdministrator in reply to Alwaystired2

TSH 0.78 (0.27- 4.2)

FT4 19.4 (12-22) 74%

FT3 3.9 (3.1-6.8) 21.62%

You’re not converting very well to FT3 & it’s very low in range.

Testing key nutrients & making sure they are optimal is next step.

I think it recommended levo is only taken with water & food, drink, supplements & other medications are left for more than an hour. For certain things it should be 4 hours.

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shawsAdministrator

The following link, I hope, will be helpful,

healthline.com/health/hypot...

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Alwaystired2 in reply to shaws

thanks

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SlowDragonAdministrator

Do you know if the cause of your hypothyroidism is autoimmune thyroid disease also called Hashimoto’s, usually diagnosed by high thyroid antibodies

Do you always get same brand levothyroxine at each prescription

What vitamin supplements are you currently taking

Most people when adequately treated will have both Ft4 and Ft3 at roughly 70% through range

Please add ranges on results you posted

Bloods should be retested 6-8 weeks after each dose change or brand change in levothyroxine

 

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 tested

plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested at least once

Very important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 at least once year minimum

About 90% of primary hypothyroidism is autoimmune thyroid disease, usually diagnosed by high thyroid antibodies 

Autoimmune thyroid disease with goitre is Hashimoto’s

Autoimmune thyroid disease without goitre is Ord’s thyroiditis. 

Both are autoimmune and generally called Hashimoto’s.

Low vitamin levels are extremely common when hypothyroid, especially with autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto’s or Ord’s thyroiditis)

20% of autoimmune thyroid patients never have high thyroid antibodies and ultrasound scan of thyroid can get diagnosis 

In U.K. medics hardly ever refer to autoimmune thyroid disease as Hashimoto’s (or Ord’s thyroiditis)

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests early morning, ideally just before 9am and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test 

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

List of private testing options and money off codes

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Medichecks Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

If you already know you have high thyroid antibodies

Monitor My Health also now offer thyroid and vitamin testing, plus cholesterol and HBA1C for £65 

(Doesn’t include thyroid antibodies) 

monitormyhealth.org.uk/full...

10% off code here 

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning. 

Watch out for postal strikes, probably want to pay for guaranteed 24 hours delivery 

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Link about Hashimoto’s

thyroiduk.org/hypothyroid-b...

Symptoms of hypothyroidism 

thyroiduk.org/wp-content/up...

Come back with new post once you get vitamin and antibodies results

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Alwaystired2 in reply to SlowDragon

Hi there

Dr is usually thorough with tests, all vitamin, etc came back in range and I always observe the fasting, early blood test rule, he says I don’t have Hashimoto’s but not sure if/when that was tested.

Ranges with my results in brackets TSH, 0.27- 4.2 (0.78); FT4, 12-22 (19.4); FT3, 3.1-6.8 (3.9).

I take vitamin C and D daily.

Thank you.

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McPammy

your T3 result looks low but difficult to say how low without the ranges. If I was you I’d look into checking your vitamin levels for D, B12, ferritin and folate. Id also check to see how well you are converting from T4 levothyroxine to the most important hormone T3. With low T3 results you will struggle with your energy levels and feel hypothyroidism symptoms, which there are many. You could also check to see if you have the DIO2 gene fault. You can get it done privately through Regenerous Laboratories for about £169. If it’s positive you’ll need T3 liothyronine medication. I did this as my story started very similar to yours. My DIO2 was positive. I ended up where I could barely walk. It seemed to affect my skeletal muscles. I just had no energy. Id been on levothyroxine for over a decade but just got worse gradually. I went private and got T3 liothyronine medication added to my normal levothyroxine dose also. It was a real game changer. Suddenly I felt years younger and full of energy. And I lost the piles of weight I put on very quickly which was down to very slow metabolism due to being under medicated. The quickest route to identify and resolve unfortunately is private. NHS will take an age to sort it if they ever do. If you ld like details of my private only endocrinologist please just message me.

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Alwaystired2 in reply to McPammy

Hi

Dr is usually thorough with tests, all vitamin, etc came back in range and I always observe the fasting, early blood test rule, he says I don’t have Hashimoto’s but not sure if/when that was tested. Ranges with my results in brackets TSH, 0.27- 4.2 (0.78); FT4, 12-22 (19.4); FT3, 3.1-6.8 (3.9).I take vitamin C and D daily.

I’ve not come across the gene fault and I’m happy to go privately I just need to get to the bottom of why I literally have zero energy no matter how much sleep I get and I’m otherwise healthy.

Thanks

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McPammy in reply to Alwaystired2

your T3 is low. T3 is where you get your energy from. Where we all do. You might need to add some T3 liothyronine to boost your T3. When I added T3 suddenly I had loads more energy. Your T4 is high in its range but only converting a small amount to the most important hormone T3. Id look into your T3 side of things. Ask one of the administrators for the calculator to work out how much you are converting I think Slowdragon could help you out with that

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Alwaystired2 in reply to McPammy

thanks sooo much.

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TiggerMe

Others have mentioned all the thyroid angles but where are you at with the peri menopause/ menopause this is likely affecting you also 🤗

balance-menopause.com/menop...

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Goforitmum

For me going gluten free helps. It makes a huge difference with brain fog. Definitely helps with tiredness. It’s not a miracle cure, but for me it helps. It was suggested to me by a gp, like you I wanted to know what else I could do to help myself and recommend going gluten free.

Going gluten free means having zero gluten. A reduced gluten diet just ain’t going to cut it.

For some gluten free can also help with weight.

I felt a small improvement in about a week, then more after a month.

Good luck hun, I hope you get to the bottom of this. xx

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