A statement made by Dr John Lowe (RIP) that some members may find helpful and it will prove that the BTA

[shaws]

drlowe.com/thyroidscience/

• Is this a failure of responsibility to study scientific issues before making public pronouncements on them? Or Editorial by Dr. John C. Lowe: The British Thyroid Association and UK Royal College of Physicians continue to keep false statements of fact online about T3-containing thyroid products including Armour Thyroid. The scientific facts patently show the falsehood of the two organizations' statements.do the statements constitute science fraud?

[shaws Administrator]

I believe that Armour Thyroid has now been discarded by the BTA.

[TaraJR in reply to shaws]

This is the 2022 advice list on NDT from NHSE SPS sps.nhs.uk/articles/review-...

The overall word 'avoid' is used, rather than 'do not use' that I think they said before. Which is a very slight improvement.

Note the BTA state "state that the routine use of DTE is not recommended advising that prescribing should be reserved for use by endocrinologists prescribing in individual patients (under exceptional circumstances)."

I believe there is pressure from a few within the BTA to soften their stance a little.

The team doing this study included several BTA members, and it was presented at the BTA conference. It reads well. Sadly, change goes at a snail's pace

"Is there a role for natural desiccated thyroid in the treatment of levothyroxine unresponsive hypothyroidism? Results from a consecutive case series"

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/346...

[shaws Administrator in reply to TaraJR]

Thank you.

Considering that NDT was the very first replacement from 1892 onwards - without the need of blood tests but by clinical symptoms alone. Lives of many hypo patients from then on were saved - it had shown its importance for many years.

Nowadays I know first hand that few GPs know any clinical symptoms of any patients who have a dysfunctional thyroid gland. I was one and even though my TSH was 100 GP phoned to tell me I had no problems.

From 1892 it was an era when doctors didn't need results of blood tests as they were knowledgeable about clinical symptoms and took into account their patients' symptoms. Patients then got a trial of NDTs.

I was most fortunate to consult the last two 'properly educated/knowledgeable doctors' who - at the end of their careers - were pursued as if criminals for diagnosing and prescribing. Dr Barry Peatfield and Dr Gordon Skinner.

This woman's life was saved by finding TUK and thus getting the name of a doctor who 'saved her life' as she was on the point of taking her life and had already told her family.

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Why do many GPs seem to be uneducated about a dysfunctional thyroid gland (I have had stupid personal comments to me by more than one professional before I was diagnosed). Why remove it?

Unfortunately many modern GPs seem uneducated about how to diagnose/treat any patients without a blood test and I have had personal evidence of this from some of the doctors I consulted.

I am one who cannot tolerate levothyroxine at all. It had an horrendous effect on me.

Unfortunately 'the powers that be' also removed NDTs in the UK. They didn't mind that many hypo patients were distraught that they could not get this reinstated and had frantic searches to try to restore their health.

[TSH110 in reply to shaws]

Well said!

[arTistapple]

I don’t seem to be getting the actual paper up that you quote from. It’s the paper about the survival mechanism of reducing metabolism in famine to which I am referred. Just a brief comment at the bottom of the page about T3?

[arTistapple]

Stop! Got it from TaraJR reference now. Sorry. Thanks.

[shaws Administrator in reply to arTistapple]

That's fine.